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Old 04-13-2014, 10:03 PM #1
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I want to grow big plants indoors under 5k lights. If I veg my plants for 4 months in soil, how many gallons is enough? Is bigger better? I've been thinking about using 50+ gallons of soil per plant transplanted straight from cutting. Will my plant grow faster and bigger in the 50 gallon than if I were to use a 20 gallon pot? I may even jump up to 100 gallon pots if plants will grow faster in them. If so by using huge pots, soil growth can be comparable to coco growth rates, correct me if I'm wrong.
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What strain are you growing?
I´v seen some strains that likes to start with smaller then transplant into bigger pots, and i´v seen some strains thats prefeer to be in a big pot from start.
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My favorite soil tree thread is "maine medical garden" posted by Aeroguerilla, I strongly recommend reading through that to get some good base info.... He does 45 gallon pots and pulls 1lb plants with 2 months veg and 1k per plant. So if you were doing 4 months I would def go for 75-100 gallons.

That having been said, I think that anything beyond 2 months veg is really gonna come up short in the long run. There are plenty of people harvesting massive quantities with 2 months veg, and figure you have 3 grows a year with 2 months but only 2 grows with a 4 month veg.... Or give coco a shot and have 1 month veg with the same results as 2 or 3 the old fashioned way
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From someone who has a large electric bill... I would suggest figuring it out on a small scale first... then move up. Figure out what works. then try and shoot for the clouds... just a suggestion. You want to be very confident running a bunch of lights. thats a hefty electric bill every month.
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another think w/ big indoor plants....there HEAVY, how the hell U going to move a 100 gal container....
unless it's on wheels.... r a pallet jack.... just my experience...

I run 45 gal bins on casters....big enuff for BIG plants.... but still able to move and relocate, as needed....
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Old 04-19-2014, 05:06 AM #7
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What strain are you growing?
I´v seen some strains that likes to start with smaller then transplant into bigger pots, and i´v seen some strains thats prefeer to be in a big pot from start.
I'm not sure what strains yet, I've been looking into something that finishes fast so I can minimize my veg time.

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My favorite soil tree thread is "maine medical garden" posted by Aeroguerilla, I strongly recommend reading through that to get some good base info.... He does 45 gallon pots and pulls 1lb plants with 2 months veg and 1k per plant. So if you were doing 4 months I would def go for 75-100 gallons.

That having been said, I think that anything beyond 2 months veg is really gonna come up short in the long run. There are plenty of people harvesting massive quantities with 2 months veg, and figure you have 3 grows a year with 2 months but only 2 grows with a 4 month veg.... Or give coco a shot and have 1 month veg with the same results as 2 or 3 the old fashioned way
I'm a med patient and can only have 12 plants max. I can still run a perpetual harvest every 2 months though. I'm going to do 4 in flower and 8 in veg, 4 of which are 2 months apart. Thats how I get a 4 month veg. I'm still trying to figure if theres a better arrangement for larger yields. I've done coco in hempy buckets before and its good but I'm tired mixing chemicals and having all those bottles laying around. I'm going to read aeroguerillas grow. Sounds interesting. Thanks for the advice.

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From someone who has a large electric bill... I would suggest figuring it out on a small scale first... then move up. Figure out what works. then try and shoot for the clouds... just a suggestion. You want to be very confident running a bunch of lights. thats a hefty electric bill every month.
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to start off small, I'm still in the planning stages right now.

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another think w/ big indoor plants....there HEAVY, how the hell U going to move a 100 gal container....
unless it's on wheels.... r a pallet jack.... just my experience...

I run 45 gal bins on casters....big enuff for BIG plants.... but still able to move and relocate, as needed....
Each pot will have its own casters. My biggest concern is how I'm going to move them through a door. How long did you veg for?
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check out the vertical lighting setup of an X formation for the lights. That seems like it would work well for you since you already have 5 1000w'ers..
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Also. From someone who has tried VERY hard to have a perpetual harvest... its really not worth the hassle... grow 12 big giants.. harvest em all at the same time. then you dry at the same time. trim at the same time... you work in clusters.. not a constant. To me it feels like im trying to walk thru sand when i do the perpetual harvest.. there is just alot of added work... thats why people LOVE outdoor so much. 1 and done.
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check out the vertical lighting setup of an X formation for the lights. That seems like it would work well for you since you already have 5 1000w'ers..
Yes I've been looking into a 4 tree grow with 5 lights vertical. Not the most efficient setup but it keeps me under my limit and yields decent.

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Also. From someone who has tried VERY hard to have a perpetual harvest... its really not worth the hassle... grow 12 big giants.. harvest em all at the same time. then you dry at the same time. trim at the same time... you work in clusters.. not a constant. To me it feels like im trying to walk thru sand when i do the perpetual harvest.. there is just alot of added work... thats why people LOVE outdoor so much. 1 and done.
I get what you're saying I'd love for it to be that much less work but if I did 12 at the same time I would only get a couple harvests a year. I'm trying to pump out as much as I can for now. I usually smoke in my grow rooms so I'm in there quite often anyways. This time I'm going organic soil it should be a lot less work. No ph, no ppms, buckets, pumps, hoses that hydro stuff.
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