[gaiusmarius]

well i'm just giving you my thoughts about the bho category, i can't say yet if i'll even have a say. maybe OP will take care of things with his sons this year. so at this point it's just some discussion.

it is a good chance for anyone with some solid proposals to step up and put them on the table to be considered. if we have a few proposals from different folks we can let the members decide.

as you know i'm not such an oil fan, but i see the way the wind is blowing, lol.

[gaiusmarius]

besthaze, i think in the end those who do a good job growing their buds will be the ones that win. it's next to impossible for us to know what exact methods were used to grow any buds with. so i don't see how else we can reward well grown organic buds then them getting good scores. that is the reward, winning a cup.

what some folks have suggested is to just have 1 big category, just indi dom and sat dom finish?

personally i like having 2 main categories, it gives more people a chance to win a cup.

this thread reminds me of when i first started growing lol

at first i kept things simple with excellent results, as the years went by the people in the grow shop was like try this and try that, this is new and will increase bud size, shit like that, the more i added the more complicated things became and my results suffered, so i went back to keeping things simple with excellent results again.

personally i think there should only be a few cups, independent grower cup, independent breeder cup and an overall winner with both grower and breeders scores put against each other to see who the ultimate champion is lol.

so each pack will contain grower and breeder entries, every1's a winner just getting their hands on a judge pack, its the taking part that should count, not how many categories we can make so more people will have a chance to win a cup, that is all from me

[gaiusmarius]

isn't it just as complicated to have your 2 main category ideas as some other 2 category ideas? thats what we had last time; seed sellers and private growers. but like i said any ideas on which bud goes to which category etc is welcome. it's interesting to see what ideas people have.

anyway growing is not organizing a good cannabis event. if you want to make things better you have to learn from every year and use what you learned for the next. when you are actually on site enjoying the things that were organized you will appreciate that it was not just kept simple. what should be simple is the time table with plenty of time for just chatting and hanging out in comfort.

dont think the seed sellers were allowed to compete against the independent growers last time, people said they did not think it was fair, this way they get kept separate but every1 gets to go up against each other in the overall category which seems very fair to me.

and no i dont think its complicated what i suggested, seems pretty simple to me, every1 will know where they stand, dont see whats complicated about what i suggested at all, from what i seen it was you G that wanted to add more categories so more people could win a cup ??? was never like this before, keep things simple is all i suggested, nothing complicated about that.

[gaiusmarius]

i'm saying it comes to the same amount of cups in the end if you have 2 main categories divided into indi and sat. so you end up with 4 bud categories, what ever you want to name them.

so just make it breeder and grower again is your suggestion? or do the over all winners get extra cups for the over all win as well as what ever category they won in?

last year there was only drP and best haze and true that even made use of being able to enter in either category. not saying it has to be the same this year, but i know a lot of people posted in support when we were actually talking about it before the event.

it was an idea and a test, the idea being that clone only strains could be entered in the grower category to compete with other elite clone only stuff and seed grown strains could be entered by anyone to compete against other seed lines out there. i did this because many times in the past people have found it unfair how clone only strains are used to win the breeder cup. so having the clone only category was to try and make it a more even playing field for all involved.


one thing i will say is that all entrants knew the rules in advance and entered knowing exactly what the plan was. there was nothing unfair about it. it was the most openly run cup in ic 420 cup history.

but as we all know you can't make everyone happy. all i can do is repeat lets make a poll and ask the majority to decide on which proposal shall be used. bring on your proposal including the exact rules that will decide which category an entry is placed in.

[Cannabist]

Haze Ventura is the shit!