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Old 07-25-2006, 06:58 AM #91
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Oh tainted..you poor tortured soul

Man life must be hard when one is so easily angered..can't join in a discussion without attacking people..

Chlorophyll is very unstable..and breaks down very easy
And get ready to give Green Giant a nasty letter..they are bonding your peas to copper atoms to stabilize the chlorophyll..so they stay green..
Chlorophyll doesn't just evaporate..it disappears without a trace..but since we are all dummies..here's a quote from New Scientist com..


The food industry attempts to preserve some of this chlorophyll so that it can be added to processed foods as a "natural" colour, but this saves only a few puny tonnes. Much the greater part of chlorophyll disappears, almost without a trace.

The Victorians also knew that removing chlorophyll from a whole plant hastened the destruction of the pigment, particularly in bright light. Later, scientists showed that chlorophyll in isolation, dissolved in organic solvents, continues to absorb light and generate electrons in states of high energy which in turn react with oxygen. Such activated oxygen attacks the chlorophylls, causing their internal bonds to rearrange randomly and breaking the ring structure to form what are euphemistically called low molecular-weight colourless compounds.

With the advent of tinned foods, researchers discovered that such observations are not confined to the laboratory. Canned peas gradually faded from a fresh green to an unappetising grey. If the peas were stored long enough, particularly in cans with low traces of copper, their greenness was eventually restored and indeed surpassed in intensity. Such observations led chemists to discover that if they removed the magnesium atom at the centre of the chlorophyll molecule and replaced it with zinc or copper, the pigment became highly stable. This is the way manufacturers produce much of the so-called "chlorophylls" that colour foods. These copper "chlorophylls" or even more modified water-soluble "chlorophylls" are added back (under EEC regulations as E141) to yoghurts, edible oils, vegetables and fruits preserved in a liquid, and to the more expensive herbal shampoos and foam-baths, toothpastes and deodorants. Copper chlorophylls are not found in nature, and they cannot function in photosynthesis.


As far as other comments you made on my post..anyone can see you rearranged the words and removed punctuation..whatever..
I didn't say food grade zippers, I said "food grade filter material"..either way food grade zippers do exist..do a google..
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Old 07-25-2006, 08:51 AM #93
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Before making stupid claim, ask yourself - Why almost all melthead prefer wood matches to butane lighter? - MAYBE its because there is an advantage??? Or we are all brainwashed by bubbleman?

ya. pretty much. matches arent as clean burning as butane. even pure wood has more poisonous byproducts than higrade butane. i think especially with a jet flame lighter that burns hotter too, is better than a bic type flame.

BUT>..... matches being a lower temp flame, do light hash nicely..
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"Chlorophyll doesn't just evaporate..it disappears without a trace"

nowhere in that snip does it mention chlorophyll can evaporate...

perhaps you have evaporation confused with oxidation...you know the same process that destroys THC...this isnt second grade...evaportion doesnt mean "go away" any more...kay?

if you want to remove the chloro without oxidative processes....wash it with clean water...too simple eh...

chloro--deep green hash leachate indicates ruptured chloroplasts and therefore bad hash...means you overprocessed or processed incorrectly...any hashmaster would agree...prob even bubble man...if hes not in trump mode..and knew what a chlorplast was...yea that would help...

anyhow..in order to rupture Cplast--youre tearing and smashing the weed...thus adding even more crap..particulate matter as well as dissolved solids/saps/suagrs you must wash out...

if you let the water SIT and not wash or press it out...the water will evaporate leaving the chloro and other crap (as would distilation)..why BMs statement is pispoor instruction...chalk it up to BM using the wrong term..i care not...still poor instruction that misdirects the user in the end...what you get for gaining your instruction off a guy who quit his day job to be a scavenger smoker...

& the point i was actually trying to make...the system is not only overpriced...its nonsence based on those pciture results...use a spoon or a salad spinner...less fragging..less chloro residue

drills make the worst of all water hash and this reminds me of it...people trying to get yield out of a high quality/low yield process...^shakes head^

you want yield and efficiency...make butter or use a skuffer...jnot water hash...

"We are talking about HASH, not POT you FUCKTARD."

actually i think it was you who asked what was wrong with matches "jackass"..and i told you...and you insisted otherwise despite the obvious answers...the taste of matches will affect all smoked mj forms...be it bud..or hash..or kif..or BHO..if i need to bring up evidence from other less biased industrys..should that be a problem??


"WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HASH , NOT ABOUT HERB YOU DUMBFUCK DONT YOU GET IT???"

yea..then you better tell gaius eh "dumbfuck"..since he was the one who brought up the fact he rejected his first joint toke...as some sort of solstice of solution to why matches are better...yes..more failed logic on behalf of the peanut gallery...

"So what, BubbleMan brainwashed thousand of customers? "

as i already stated...people typically buy the product they are exposed to most...ads etc...human nature..so if anyones brain washing you..its is me...im making you bow away from illogical choices WE ALL TEND TO MAKE..

then again...maybe BMs your role model...
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Old 07-25-2006, 07:22 PM #96
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tainted,....this seems to be a personal issue with you

it seems to me you are twisteing the issue here....BM could delete this but has let your opinon stay up...now get off it and take a bong-rip er two.
i guess he wants to let ppl see you make an ass out of yourself

a good deal is a state of mind

and i'm very happy with my quality bubble bags, along with thousands of other customers too.

lets see your tutorials or hash making skills....

sorry for the rant but dammit man

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Your so crazy..trying to mix up words again..I never said it did evaporate..dissipate is a better word..gone, destroyed, poof..
No known detected oxides are created..low molecular-weight colourless compounds is mostly what remains..and activated O2 is the destroyer..

I showed the explanation to what occurs to the chlorophyll outside of the chloroplast..what happens to cholophyll inside the chloroplast is a whole other discussion..
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as with chlorophyll readily evaporating from hash with the water...and the fabric its washed in....why...are your frozen peas and spinach coming out brown again....happens to me all the time...
I then showed why your peas and spinach stay green..
I agree that the tissue shouldn't be pummeled..
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if you want to remove the chloro without oxidative processes....wash it with clean water...too simple eh...
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chloro--deep green hash leachate indicates ruptured chloroplasts and therefore bad hash...means you overprocessed or processed incorrectly...any hashmaster would agree...prob even bubble man...if hes not in trump mode..and knew what a chlorplast was...yea that would help...
My 2nd grade education wants to know which it is..chlorophyll washes out in water or is only released when the chloroplast is ruptured?

If you have a way of preserving natural chlorophyll outside the plant..please inform the food industry..
what you might see in that bucket after all the evaporation is unnatural chlorophyll that has re-bonded with another atom such as copper or zinc..and remains looking green..and some of the natural fattier tonnes may last longer..

Don't feel bad, even the scientists have problems with telling the difference:
The development of new techniques, particularly high performance liquid chromatography in recent years, has given scientists new insight into the fate of chlorophyll in nature. Unfortunately some of the intermediates also appear to be formed as artifacts during attempts to isolate them in the laboratory, making it difficult to distinguish natural from unnatural pigments.

Nice $1.50 jewelry bag..now it's a $6.00 Lingerie Wash Bag..that's a 400% increase..outrageous..hehe j/k

Really man some of what you say has merit..it's the way you attack peeps while you're sharing..If you wanna attack the forum moderator..that's up to you..
He had to have done something to you personally, to cause the all the slurs and comment picking..

I don't take anything as fact just because someone said it..I like to see scientific proof and/or demonstration..so I listen but don't always agree..
but when I do disagree I try to do it with tact..even while the other party remains juvenile..at worst I might use sarcasm..but that's just me..
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Your so crazy..trying to mix up words again..I never said it did evaporate..dissipate is a better word..gone, destroyed, poof..
No known detected oxides are created..low molecular-weight colourless compounds is mostly what remains..and activated O2 is the destroyer..
actually you did say it evaporated..but whatever...doesnt matter any more..you agree...cool....destroyed...ye s a perfect word...but disappear..as in turn into "nothing"...NO!..when uv light, lets day...oxidized the chloro...it turns to starch or sugar..or its reduced to its elemental makeup..depends whats available...ie a living plant can do things with the metabolites..like make purple pigments..thus purple pot w/ anthrocyanin..pardon my suck ass spelling...

no known oxides...o2 destroyer...huh.....bah...don t confuse me...

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I then showed why your peas and spinach stay green..
you showed infinitekly vague how peas change...but either way its the same...i assume...either way...the chloro is oxidize...nuthin new...same thing which DESTROYS THC mind you...so if thw process does occur...well nice blonde hash devoid of thc...anyhoo..chloro does not readily dissolve into solution (dissolve) when in the thalkaloid stacks/plast or some BS...why i have had 3+ week old organic lettuce "spring mix" in the frige thats a month+ past harvest and still quite green..and herb thats been hanging over a year in warm "dim" room...so lazy.that bleaches over time...has it evaportaed the chloro..no...heat and other crap oxidized it out ALONG with the initial curing process where plant ACTIVELY CANNABOLIZE CHLORO TO STARCH/PIGMENTS/CRAP...as to survive the lower amount of light (death/dying)..signaled by ethylene gas.....this does not happen with hash...plants clinaclally muthafuckin DEAD and has no enzyme/catalyst source...

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I agree that the tissue shouldn't be pummeled..
and thats the reason i love you./..

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My 2nd grade education wants to know which it is..chlorophyll washes out in water or is only released when the chloroplast is ruptured?
i aint a master is bot...BUT...i hypo that chloro only leaches when the plasts are ruptured which is inevitable due to HARVEST wounds...now if you see light hash leachate water..is ok/ievitable..but JUICE..lol..no... common sense...you ruptured the living hell out your gear...

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If you have a way of preserving natural chlorophyll outside the plant..please inform the food industry..
what you might see in that bucket after all the evaporation is unnatural chlorophyll that has re-bonded with another atom such as copper or zinc..and remains looking green..and some of the natural fattier tonnes may last longer..
no'' what you see is unevaporated chlorophyll--natural in spendor...the same shit in the "green dragon oil"..which STAINS EVERYTHING NEAR PERMANENTLY GREEN with chloro...green dragon is crap..its long prep ISO+WATER+SCHWAG...would someone who has made the green chime in the validate this....

anyhow...good luck turning green dragon to honey oil...without major reprocessing

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Nice $1.50 jewelry bag..now it's a $6.00 Lingerie Wash Bag..that's a 400% increase..outrageous..hehe j/k
lol.///400%..shiiiit (golly)...hey kids gotta eat/the wife wants a sex change...yea google for those bags is endless combos of : washing machine laundry pouch zipper mesh lingerie jewelry bag...

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He had to have done something to you personally, to cause the all the slurs and comment picking..
he killed my entire family and sent me to jail for 20 years...LOL...serious...i just think we would be happier with a genral price drop and he'd sell more for increased profits..but my data is scarce..mind you i have priced fabric mfg..the retail/wholesale cost of bub bags/washer/ including the cost of the garbage pcikup and the cost of selling disposible filtres at low volume for a living//

damn im funny..

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I don't take anything as fact just because someone said it..I like to see scientific proof and/or demonstration..so I listen but don't always agree..
but when I do disagree I try to do it with tact..even while the other party remains juvenile..at worst I might use sarcasm..but that's just me..
glad your post lent me that...but the only one who was gven any offense here was bub and i....past what was dealt here mutually...as to my treatment of BM..lol....ok...well lets just assume i am right about everything...well assume then i believe im right...so here we are...

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you showed infinitekly vague how peas change...but either way its the same...i assume...either way...the chloro is oxidize...nuthin new...same thing which DESTROYS THC mind you...so if thw process does occur...well nice blonde hash devoid of thc..
Only an idiot would assume that chlorophyll and TCH break down at anywhere near the same rate.
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