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Old 02-17-2009, 01:07 AM #1
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Using the AN calculator (but with other stuff)

Hey, gents. I've got some leftover fertz that I collected when I was a complete noob. (I love to tinker, but the stuff sat around doing nothing because I really didn't understand what it was/does. However, I've got several cycles under my belt now and wonder if I'm using it intelligently.

By the way, my base bloom nutrient is FloraNova. The stuff delivers fine results and is super-easy to work with. I'm well aware that the respected Lucas formula begins and ends with just this one blend, but... that's just way too boring for me to accept. :wink:

Okay, so I've put the Advanced Nutrients calculator to work but with several other companies products included. Here's the list (and some of what I believe to be the equivalents):

GH FloraNova Bloom (Conni A/B)
GH FloraBlend Compost Tea (Mother Earth Tea)
GH Diamond Nectar (H2)
Botanicare Blast Off (B52)
Molasses (CarboLoad)
Hygrozyme (Sensizyme)
various bacteria/mycorhizae (Piranha/Tarantula/Voodoo Juice)
Bud Blood
Botanicare Hydroplex (Big Bud)
Overdrive
Botanicare Clearex (Final Phase)

Do I have this straight? Is it wise follow the AN calculator with these substitutions? (I don't pay strict attention to proportions.) Please set me straight if my assumptions are incorrect! Everything is working out great, but I'd like to be a bit more proactive about optimizing the line up.

Thanks,

P.S. I'm growing in hempy buckets (3/4 chunky perlite & 1/4 vermiculite + a layer of 3/4 B'Cuzz coco & 1/4 earthworm castings).
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:57 AM #2
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AN's calc was designed to sell a lot of product. The mix ratios are completely off.
Blast off or superthrive (I love Superthrive!)
Floranova
Calmg
Hydroguard & subculture or Oregonismxl
Hydroplex is awsome, but it lacks the L-Aminos Big bud has..
Liquid karma would work better and is much cheaper than diamond nectar
Hygrozyme
Koolbloom liquid for overdrive.
Carboload or black strap mollasses
Florablend is an organic vegan tea so it should work
No need for clearex, just start flushing with molasses 2 weeks before the chop.
Try to keep your PPM under 1300...

Or keep it simple!
Floranova
Hydroplex
Diamond nectar since you have it
Hydroguard
Mollasses
Calmg if needed
Blast off since you have it..
K.I.S.S
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:13 AM #3
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Hydroplex is awsome, but it lacks the L-Aminos Big bud has..
I'm totally embarrassed to be posting in the AN section, but I just hate seeing misinformation.
Hydroplex is fortified with seaweed, humic acid, fulvic acid, vitamins and amino acids.



Old 02-17-2009, 05:29 AM #4
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GH FloraNova Bloom Would compare more to AN SensiOne Bloom,
DM gold would be more like a Conni A/B.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:34 AM #5
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Damn, I just checked how much it would cost for me to run the sensi 2+ program (level 5 of course) in my room for 1 run (3x 100gal res).
Only $5,500!
That is totally fucking disgusting.
It costs me less than $150 to run FloraNova Bloom.
I knew the shit was a rip but I didn't know they were raping AND torturing people.
I promise to leave the AN forum and never come back.
Sorry everyone that I interrupted your paradise.
Please forgive me....



Old 02-17-2009, 05:36 AM #6
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Damn, I just checked how much it would cost for me to run the sensi 2+ program (level 5 of course) in my room for 1 run (3x 100gal res).
Only $5,500!
That is totally fucking disgusting.
It costs me less than $150 to run FloraNova Bloom.
I knew the shit was a rip but I didn't know they were raping AND torturing people.
I promise to leave the AN forum and never come back.
Sorry everyone that I interrupted your paradise.
Please forgive me....
Hahaha!
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:01 AM #7
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I'm totally embarrassed to be posting in the AN section, but I just hate seeing misinformation.
Hydroplex is fortified with seaweed, humic acid, fulvic acid, vitamins and amino acids.
Got me again Dongle, Excuse me, I wasn't a rep for botanicare! I had no idea.
Sounds like it could be used to substitute a few bottles if the concentrate is high enough. The only reason I liked Big Bud was because it was the only product with l aminos and a light pk boost..
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:40 PM #8
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AN's calc was designed to sell a lot of product.
Ain't that the truth! I'm a professional marketer, myself, and believe that my job is to accurately educate people about their options and to lead them to what they need/want. AN is masterful at promoting their agenda. I admire their skills. However... it seems that they're more self-serving than charitable. (cough cough...for more diplomacy than is likely deserved)

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The mix ratios are completely off.
What do you believe is "off"? Can you suggest some improvements? Btw, I'm growing bagseed that I suspect might be Northern Lights or a cross thereof. I keep nute strengh to around 1100 at peak (with a 5.7 - 6.0 pH) and feed with every watering. Temps are kept to 70 - 80degF; RH is about 50%. It's a sealed area running CO2, btw. Fans keep the air churned constantly. Finally, lights are a 600W HPS and a 400W CMH.

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I'm totally embarrassed to be posting in the AN section, but I just hate seeing misinformation. Hydroplex is fortified with seaweed, humic acid, fulvic acid, vitamins and amino acids.
Nah, stick around to help folks out! Don't let us become assimilated by the Borg! Anyway, I appreciate the clarification. Do you believe that Hydroplex is a total substitute for Big Bud? I'm using it as such and it seems to be doing its job...

P.S. I do believe that the Overdrive is deserving of some credit, too.
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