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Old 07-10-2007, 12:44 PM #81
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For the most part I think that others can make f1's on their own time.
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I know that given the financial resources i'd sooner buy both P1 stock, grow 'em both, and make my own F1s. The advantage i see in buying your F1's is that you may be able to choose from a larger pool of mamma's and poppa's in the P1 generation than i could in my 2 packs of seeds.
Yes this is how we see it for sure. We used in the creation of the F1's always multiple selected parents, not large pools but enough differentiation in genes passed over to provide good variety for selections in the F2 generation on.

We have done some of the work for the recreational breeder in selecting from high numbers in good conditions the best and truest examples in the lines. Our F1's are made with a firm eye on the F2 generation and on, as all are also ongoing inbreeding projects here. All would make worthy IBL lines in the future with more focus on specific traits, or for outdoor and indoor lines.

For those that want to undertake breeding programmes we are also in the near future going to release F2's of our own F1 lines in bulk 'breeders packs' of 25, 50 or 100 seeds. These seeds will enable recreational breeders to cut straight to the chase and get deep into selections in the F2 generation and we are just about to release our first F2's from this project, a Colombian Gold x Kush line.

So with our genetics they will be available in pure form (field collected or accession 1 Landraces selected against intersex traits) F1 hybrid (using multiple parents) and also F2's (selections from good populations and knowledge of the lines).

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I see the Haze lines as being a 'commercial' line that does need preservation.. but for the most part i'd like to see you folks stay away from commercial lines produced by others, unless they truly represent something special that also needs help to be preserved.
Yeh we agree too, problem is with 'commercial' lines come the commercial people, plant ownership issues arise and there after commercial interest prevails. This is not for us for sure, we have serious personal issues over natural genetics and human 'intellectual property rights'. Our future lies in the collection of genetics from what remains of the worlds landraces, in order to protect and preserve them as best as is possible by making them available to all and any on a open source basis. We also will be focused on the creation of hybrids within our maintained genepools and the inbreeding of some of our F1 lines towards IBL.

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[WRAP]leave the Elite Cut Backcross projects to the thousand other closet breeders that'll happily tackle the project(s). We ( well, at least I ) want to see you doing what other's aren't
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Yeh we agree here too. Good points, it is real nice to explore them.

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Old 07-10-2007, 12:55 PM #82
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how many bag of seeds for the purple haze ?
Hi Moe,

I do not know how to answer this question - yet.

To date, I have yet to see a purple Haze plant from our line grown indoors. In hybrids ive created using the Haze lines they pass over the colours and will show them indoors. But ive yet to see a pure Purple Haze grown indoors by a customer, so please do not buy Hazes for a purple plant as this goal might not be realistic.

Outdoors, these plants show a myriad of colour combinations. Indoor cultivation is a whole new world for them and time will tell if they show their natural colours in a non natural environment. I just do not know right now. The phenotypes are there in the line, how they express indoors we will see.

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ready for auctions or for "buy now " option ?
Landraces are actioned.
F1 and Heirlooms are now $60
f2's are $40

Hope this helps!
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:02 PM #83
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I'd like to see pure OG kush seeds. In most of the world, an OG Kush cut is hard to come by. Especially when you're not on the cali med scene. There are some watered down OG kush seeds, but the real stuff sounds very connessuier like.
We will continue to offer a Bubba S1 as it is a great plant line and works best in this manner, although we do not have any of the 3c's line left now. We do not have any plans with the clone only lines apart from the Cheese clone as we will shortly be releasing S1 seeds of our old Cheese line. Both these S1's produce plants very close to the original clone.

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If I may have another request, blackberry (the australian version mentioned in t he cannabiblel 2) if possible would be the best! Also, some pure African land race sativas. Is black magic no more than a fable or once slang name for good etheopian? It just sounds sooo dank! also some original road kill skunk. the early days shit. you know. smells like a dead skunk.
No road kill Skunk bro, never. The Cheese S1 grown outdoors is great to amazing and we do not have any RKS projects.

African black herbs are not fables, they exist or rather black colouration traits do. Whether these are the same plants that produce the legends we do not know, so they will not be sold as 'black magic' types. We hope to release a Nigerian and other central African strains shortly.

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Old 07-10-2007, 01:03 PM #84
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:52 PM #85
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Hi Moe,

I do not know how to answer this question - yet.

To date, I have yet to see a purple Haze plant from our line grown indoors. In hybrids ive created using the Haze lines they pass over the colours and will show them indoors. But ive yet to see a pure Purple Haze grown indoors by a customer, so please do not buy Hazes for a purple plant as this goal might not be realistic.

Outdoors, these plants show a myriad of colour combinations. Indoor cultivation is a whole new world for them and time will tell if they show their natural colours in a non natural environment. I just do not know right now. The phenotypes are there in the line, how they express indoors we will see.



Landraces are actioned.
F1 and Heirlooms are now $60
f2's are $40

Hope this helps!
Peace, hhf
are u ever gunna just sell the landraces so the average joe can get a pack. im pretty sure if its always an auction format i wont be able to get them. slow computer combined with little money... also im bidding against guys with fast computer (snip bid) and plenty of money.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:16 PM #86
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are u ever gunna just sell the landraces so the average joe can get a pack. im pretty sure if its always an auction format i wont be able to get them. slow computer combined with little money... also im bidding against guys with fast computer (snip bid) and plenty of money.
Yes we sure are, we hope to have the Landraces on buy now within a couple of months. They will be priced at 75 Dollars for 12 seeds.
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Great news!! When will more bubba be available? Will they be S2s?
No, they are S1's from a reversed pre 98 Bubba. Same Bubba as used by the 3c's.

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Will there be packs available sooner or later?
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Old 07-14-2007, 03:22 PM #88
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hi there hhf

i seem to remember you had a Bangladesh strain

any chance of a rerelease ?

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