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Unabomber's Manifesto

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Has anyone ever read this? I think its pretty interesting:
Here is just his introduction, the whole thing can be found here:
http://www.thecourier.com/manifest.htm

I wonder why I never heard any of his manifesto on the news, it was all about punishing the guy.


INTRODUCTION

1. The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in "advanced" countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in "advanced" countries.

2. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.

3. If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had best break down sooner rather than later.

4. We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence: it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can't predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.

5. In this article we give attention to only some of the negative developments that have grown out of the industrial-technological system. Other such developments we mention only briefly or ignore altogether. This does not mean that we regard these other developments as unimportant. For practical reasons we have to confine our discussion to areas that have received insufficient public attention or in which we have something new to say. For example, since there are well-developed environmental and wilderness movements, we have written very little about environmental degradation or the destruction of wild nature, even though we consider these to be highly important.
 
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This part is actually pretty good...

SOURCES OF SOCIAL PROBLEMS

45. Any of the foregoing symptoms can occur in any society, but in modern industrial society they are present on a massive scale. We aren't the first to mention that the world today seems to be going crazy. This sort of thing is not normal for human societies. There is good reason to believe that primitive man suffered from less stress and frustration and was better satisfied with his way of life than modern man is. It is true that not all was sweetness and light in primitive societies. Abuse of women and common among the Australian aborigines, transexuality was fairly common among some of the American Indian tribes. But is does appear that GENERALLY SPEAKING the kinds of problems that we have listed in the preceding paragraph were far less common among primitive peoples than they are in modern society.

46. We attribute the social and psychological problems of modern society to the fact that that society requires people to live under conditions radically different from those under which the human race evolved and to behave in ways that conflict with the patterns of behavior that the human race developed while living under the earlier conditions. It is clear from what we have already written that we consider lack of opportunity to properly experience the power process as the most important of the abnormal conditions to which modern society subjects people. But it is not the only one. Before dealing with disruption of the power process as a source of social problems we will discuss some of the other sources.

47. Among the abnormal conditions present in modern industrial society are excessive density of population, isolation of man from nature, excessive rapidity of social change and the break-down of natural small-scale communities such as the extended family, the village or the tribe.

48. It is well known that crowding increases stress and aggression. The degree of crowding that exists today and the isolation of man from nature are consequences of technological progress. All pre-industrial societies were predominantly rural. The industrial Revolution vastly increased the size of cities and the proportion of the population that lives in them, and modern agricultural technology has made it possible for the Earth to support a far denser population than it ever did before. (Also, technology exacerbates the effects of crowding because it puts increased disruptive powers in people's hands. For example, a variety of noise-making devices: power mowers, radios, motorcycles, etc. If the use of these devices is unrestricted, people who want peace and quiet are frustrated by the noise. If their use is restricted, people who use the devices are frustrated by the regulations... But if these machines had never been invented there would have been no conflict and no frustration generated by them.)

49. For primitive societies the natural world (which usually changes only slowly) provided a stable framework and therefore a sense of security. In the modern world it is human society that dominates nature rather than the other way around, and modern society changes very rapidly owing to technological change. Thus there is no stable framework.

50. The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can't make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society with out causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.

51.The breakdown of traditional values to some extent implies the breakdown of the bonds that hold together traditional small-scale social groups. The disintegration of small-scale social groups is also promoted by the fact that modern conditions often require or tempt individuals to move to new locations, separating themselves from their communities. Beyond that, a technological society HAS TO weaken family ties and local communities if it is to function efficiently. In modern society an individual's loyalty must be first to the system and only secondarily to a small-scale community, because if the internal loyalties of small-scale small-scale communities were stronger than loyalty to the system, such communities would pursue their own advantage at the expense of the system.

52. Suppose that a public official or a corporation executive appoints his cousin, his friend or his co-religionist to a position rather than appointing the person best qualified for the job. He has permitted personal loyalty to supersede his loyalty to the system, and that is "nepotism" or "discrimination," both of which are terrible sins in modern society. Would-be industrial societies that have done a poor job of subordinating personal or local loyalties to loyalty to the system are usually very inefficient. (Look at Latin America.) Thus an advanced industrial society can tolerate only those small-scale communities that are emasculated, tamed and made into tools of the system. [7]

53. Crowding, rapid change and the breakdown of communities have been widely recognized as sources of social problems. but we do not believe they are enough to account for the extent of the problems that are seen today.

54. A few pre-industrial cities were very large and crowded, yet their inhabitants do not seem to have suffered from psychological problems to the same extent as modern man. In America today there still are uncrowded rural areas, and we find there the same problems as in urban areas, though the problems tend to be less acute in the rural areas. Thus crowding does not seem to be the decisive factor.

55. On the growing edge of the American frontier during the 19th century, the mobility of the population probably broke down extended families and small-scale social groups to at least the same extent as these are broken down today. In fact, many nuclear families lived by choice in such isolation, having no neighbors within several miles, that they belonged to no community at all, yet they do not seem to have developed problems as a result.

56.Furthermore, change in American frontier society was very rapid and deep. A man might be born and raised in a log cabin, outside the reach of law and order and fed largely on wild meat; and by the time he arrived at old age he might be working at a regular job and living in an ordered community with effective law enforcement. This was a deeper change that that which typically occurs in the life of a modern individual, yet it does not seem to have led to psychological problems. In fact, 19th century American society had an optimistic and self-confident tone, quite unlike that of today's society. [8]

57. The difference, we argue, is that modern man has the sense (largely justified) that change is IMPOSED on him, whereas the 19th century frontiersman had the sense (also largely justified) that he created change himself, by his own choice. Thus a pioneer settled on a piece of land of his own choosing and made it into a farm through his own effort. In those days an entire county might have only a couple of hundred inhabitants and was a far more isolated and autonomous entity than a modern county is. Hence the pioneer farmer participated as a member of a relatively small group in the creation of a new, ordered community. One may well question whether the creation of this community was an improvement, but at any rate it satisfied the pioneer's need for the power process.

58. It would be possible to give other examples of societies in which there has been rapid change and/or lack of close community ties without he kind of massive behavioral aberration that is seen in today's industrial society. We contend that the most important cause of social and psychological problems in modern society is the fact that people have insufficient opportunity to go through the power process in a normal way. We don't mean to say that modern society is the only one in which the power process has been disrupted. Probably most if not all civilized societies have interfered with the power ' process to a greater or lesser extent. But in modern industrial society the problem has become particularly acute. Leftism, at least in its recent (mid-to-late -20th century) form, is in part a symptom of deprivation with respect to the power process.
 
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I.M. Boggled

Certified Bloomin' Idiot
Veteran
The author/terrorist,Ted Kaczynski, who wrote the 35,000-word paper titled
"Industrial Society and Its Future"
(commonly called the "Unabomber Manifesto"),
bombed, killed and maimed innocent people for nearly eighteen years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber

He is now currently serving four life sentences in a ten by twelve cell in a U.S. Federal supermax* prison.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/terrorists/kaczynski/1.html
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How mad was Ted Kaczynski?

The unabomber was not like most other serial killers.
But the demons that drove him were every bit as lethal.
http://www.salon.com/news/1997/11/14news.html
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*Supermax is the name used to describe "control-unit" prisons or units within prisons, representing the most secure and austere levels of custody in prison systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermax
 
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I.M. Boggled said:
The author/terrorist,Ted Kaczynski, who wrote the 35,000-word paper titled
"Industrial Society and Its Future"
(commonly called the "Unabomber Manifesto"),
bombed, killed and maimed innocent people for nearly eighteen years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber

He is now currently serving a life sentence in a ten by twelve cell in a U.S. Federal supermax* prison.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/terrorists_spies/terrorists/kaczynski/1.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

How mad was Ted Kaczynski?

The unabomber was not like most other serial killers.
But the demons that drove him were every bit as lethal.
http://www.salon.com/news/1997/11/14news.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

*Supermax is the name used to describe "control-unit" prisons or units within prisons, representing the most secure and austere levels of custody in prison systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermax

Nice reply. To bad he wasn't a suicide bomber, would at least have ended that day and not still get brought up anytime that bastard wants to get some media attention. Why target the innocent on purpose, is something I will never understand. Why not park the truck infront of 1600 Pennsylvania st and try and take the 1 person who makes the rules. I think the results would be more satisfying.

Please do not think I am hoping for any type of attack on US soil or any soil as this is not true, I am just using the Ted K story as an example and asking why a building with daycare in it???????

If I were to ramble on for 35000 pages I am sure that I could convince a few wack jobs to blow themselves apart all in the name of _______?????

Words are a very powerful weapon when used correctly.
 

I.M. Boggled

Certified Bloomin' Idiot
Veteran
and asking why a building with daycare in it???????

Your thinking of another homegrown piece of sh*t idiot terrorist named "Tim Mcveigh", the executed Oklahoma federal building bomber who killed many innocents of all ages en masse that horrendous day.

IMB


Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an American terrorist convicted of eleven federal offenses and ultimately executed as a result of his role in the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. The bombing, which claimed 168 lives, is considered the deadliest incident of domestic terrorism in U.S. history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McVeigh
 
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Yeah he was psycho, but if you read that Manifesto it actually makes sense.

So lets leave out the obvious, that he had issues. Anyone want to discuss the actual points he made?
 
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I.M. Boggled said:
Your thinking of another homegrown piece of sh*t idiot terrorist named "Tim Mcveigh", the executed Oklahoma federal building bomber who killed many innocents of all ages en masse that horrendous day.

IMB


Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an American terrorist convicted of eleven federal offenses and ultimately executed as a result of his role in the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. The bombing, which claimed 168 lives, is considered the deadliest incident of domestic terrorism in U.S. history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_McVeigh


Thx, I re-read it and questioned myself but still FU^&ED up. Thx again, still both are wack jobs.

I can't really get into this discussion to DEEP as I think of myself as a very shallow person in any political or religious ring. So I will now strictly be reading this thread.

Very provocative post Moose, sure to bang the wasps out of the nesty with that one.
 

Pops

Resident pissy old man
Veteran
Now THAT is why I cheat on my taxes, so I can't be held responsible for the carnage caused by my government!
 

PazVerdeRadical

all praises are due to the Most High
Veteran
hey moose, i guess they must have been 'thinking positive' like indicad suggested in another thread. the mentality of 'we can poop all over but the poop will never reach us' is obvously flawed, but it seems it is held by a vast majority of individuals, not just in the u.s but globally. there seems to be an inherent need to have sub-ordinates, competitions, and things to prove. but they forget the doing the living :D in aruba there's a sign carved in wood nailed to a tree that says: life is a beach. hehehe...
peace.
 
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