solar panel / hps light

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jujimufu

New member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #1

hi all,

can anyone tell me if a hps light would power a small solar panel

thx

 

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jujimufu

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• Oct 22, 2009

• #2

anyone ?

 

dargo

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #3

yes.

 

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Guest 88950

• Oct 22, 2009

• #4

you mean the solar panel powering the hps. i would check the rating of the PV panel you are looking at to make sure its big enough

 

grow1620

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #5

yes the light could charge a solar panel, but there would be huge losses. I have a solar powered battery charger that maxes out when I put it under a 70w cfl about 1-2 inches away from the bulb-same charge rating as being in intense sunlight at noon.....if you had a huge setup you could probably throw in a solar panel here and there to run small fans off of, but it would be a total waste. Every solar panel added blocks or absorbs light and reduces the overall efficiency of the bulb. There's no way you could derive enough energy from a light source to be able to cool itself with solar conversions and still have enough light to grow anything.

So yes it's possible, but a huge waste of energy.

 

cobcoop

Puttin flame to fire

ICMag Donor

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• Oct 22, 2009

• #6

grow1620 said:

So yes it's possible, but a huge waste of energy.

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paulkemp

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #7

can you make me a perpetual motion machine if you figure this one out?

 

odin_

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #8

if you were already running a grow and used the panels in unused space you could probably get some power out of throwing solar panels in

 

ItsAllOver

Devil's Advocate

• Oct 22, 2009

• #9

LOL if he is only trying to run a device that is already solar powered, maybe a fan or something, it makes a little sense. Actually it's a cool idea to avoid needing another timer. You could always easily rewire the thing to run on batteries/transformer.
What is the application, OP?

 

odin_

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• Oct 22, 2009

• #10

ItsAllOver said:

LOL if he is only trying to run a device that is already solar powered, maybe a fan or something, it makes a little sense.
What is the application, OP?

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i think he wants to use the solar panel to store power to help with the grow

i hope he doesnt think that he can get the light to umm run the light lol

 

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jujimufu

New member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #11

hey thx for the replies guys much appreciated

and yes im gonna power a small fan with a solar panel ;D ive had to move the bigger fan to the bottom of my tent for space , my ladies are outa control

 

ItsAllOver

Devil's Advocate

• Oct 22, 2009

• #12

Pretty neat idea. Check back in and let me know how it spins.

 

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smokincheeze

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #13

I was thinking of doing the same thing, I cant see a reason why a small panel they use for charging phones and such wouldn't work. They are cheap on ebay and worth the experiment I think

 

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jujimufu

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• Oct 22, 2009

• #14

" Natural Air Conditioner" lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Solar-Cell-Fa...sure_Golf_GolfClothing_JN?hash=item2556df94fb

gonna set it to blow accros the bulb while the bigger fan circulates from the bottom up, only thing is the panel will be away from the light.

would it be enough to run off the surround light or does it need to be direct light ?

maybe i can do a blue peter bodge job on it and turn it round

 

grow1620

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #15

I think you'll just have to test out distances with it to see how much power it will get.

lol if this works well, that ebay guy is gonna sell a ton of those. good luck with it, I'm curious to see how it works out.

 

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smokincheeze

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #16

that will work, panel needs somewhat direct light though, you can take the panel out and extend the wires so you can hang it somewhere where there isn't a bud site to block

 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.

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• Oct 22, 2009

• #17

That IS interesting, imagine a future where solar panels are cheap, efficient, and can line grow rooms to soak up excess/wasted light! It won't be a huge recovery, but they would pay for themselves eventually.

 

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Guest 88950

• Oct 22, 2009

• #18

Lazyman said:

That IS interesting, imagine a future where solar panels are cheap, efficient, and can line grow rooms to soak up excess/wasted light! It won't be a huge recovery, but they would pay for themselves eventually.

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lazyman, Konarka has developed a solar ink that will do just that. check out konarka.com

 

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asde

Member

• Oct 22, 2009

• #19

sorry i didnt read all the post but to point out some things:
600w hps efficiency= ~30% (~180w)
solar panel efficiency= ~20%[dunno really but i heared something like this heh] (~180/100*20=~36)

so if your going to gather all the light an 600w hps creates to be absorpted by the solar panel your going to waste AT LEAST 564w(+hps ballast) of energy - not worth any effort, if you wanna invest money invest on ir absorption panels to help the science which may offers the only real productive way of minimizing losses in near future (just imagine we reach 20% at 15k nm range)

 

Lazyman

Overkill is under-rated.

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• Oct 23, 2009

• #20

I think the goal wouldn't be to use a light as a primary source of power for a PV cell, but to use a PV panel to capture otherwise wasted light. By capturing this wasted energy and converting it into something useful we can reduce overall draw on the grid, if even by a fraction. Amiright?