PLEASE HELP MY PLANTS!

[papaduc]

Mate, your biggest problem from the beginning, apart from the fact you are/were not feeding, is the fact that you are not filling up those pots to the top. They're already tiny pots to begin with, and some of them look less than a quarter full. That gives you such a tiny margin of error with regards to everything; watering, feeding, ph, ec... that's a big part of why you're having problems.

If you want to guarantee their health, put them into a full pot of coco, water it with 0.8 ec of maxigrow (or another good veg/starter feed) on top of your tap water, and that's it. You're done. You'll have no more problems after that, except maybe with that amount of seeds, an overcrowded tent.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Mate, your biggest problem from the beginning, apart from the fact you are/were not feeding, is the fact that you are not filling up those pots to the top. They're already tiny pots to begin with, and some of them look less than a quarter full. That gives you such a tiny margin of error with regards to everything; watering, feeding, ph, ec... that's a big part of why you're having problems.

If you want to guarantee their health, put them into a full pot of coco, water it with 0.8 ec of maxigrow (or another good veg/starter feed) on top of your tap water, and that's it. You're done. You'll have no more problems after that, except maybe with that amount of seeds, an overcrowded tent.

While ur probably right it would be eaier to keep them happy for him, the strategy hes doing is topping up the solo cup to bury the weak spindly growth of seeds.

I don't have a lot of seed experience but ive read this strategy before, and that's what I did, but im curious if its needed if u nail the health from the beginning as I kept the lights away for too long causing really weak spindly stems from the start.

 

[Weeded1s]

Im no seed guy either but y wouldnt u set your ec in coco a few days b4..let them dry out a little from evap and plop em in. Maybe im wrong.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Im no seed guy either but y wouldnt u set your ec in coco a few days b4..let them dry out a little from evap and plop em in. Maybe im wrong.

I think that's a valid idea.

 

[stoned40yrs]

Im no seed guy either but y wouldnt u set your ec in coco a few days b4..let them dry out a little from evap and plop em in. Maybe im wrong.

Sounds like you tried it before

 

[Weeded1s]

Lol...nahhh. just makes sense to me. Get it moist like a rapid rooter r my thoughts. I roll clone onlys mostly. I did pop some in a paper towel once..I stressed a chem valley og and it blew up the super silver haze and lemon thai and sumthin else. Im scared of hermies so I threw em all away.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

here's what works for me in any medium that you "water"

from the day the seed cracks i put in soil and keep lightly moist till it pops the surface.

once it pops the surface i water it once thoroughly then i water again once it dries out almost completely. then i saturate it again and repeat.

after roughly one week of that i transplant to the "veg" container. hey look! i use those solo cups too sometimes. nothing wrong with em cept you gotta water a little at a time till the roots poke out the bottom should take no more than 1 week. after that continue the wet dry cycle cept you gotta modify it a little unless you cut slits in the side to let the middle dry out as fast as the top. if you don't cut the slits what you do is water one time fully then when it starts to dry out on top you water a little bit just enough to keep the top section moist till the middle and bottom dry out.

you then veg for however long you like in your transition containers i do like 2-4 weeks i have small cab can't take big ass plants. well it could take like 1-2, but i like my variety. if you don't use mychorirzae you're doing it all wrong. ALL WRONG the difference is literally 12 noon the mojave and winter at the north pole. i use mykos. it's the only brand i've tried so far but one little packet cost me $2 and some tax about 2+ years ago. i still got like another 20 plants worth left. just sprinkle a little in the hole when you transplant swirl it a little, sprinkle some more so it's in contact with roots and add water.

once in final container i will either toss straight into flower or veg another week. but however you like to do it, i keep the same wet dry cycle going till the roots poke out the bottom. should take roughly a week depending on the size of the plant. and shape of container. i have to add this disclaimer. taller and shorter pots alike the roots will hit the bottom in a few days. but in a taller pot as i will show you...lemme get my camera out....

the roots might be at the bottom but it's only a few of em. keep the wet dry cycle going a little longer. like another week. after you see a lotta roots poikng out the bottom you can resume watering however. with coco i found it's best to keep it from damp<-- to -->moist as opposed to wet.

beleive me bruh... you can overwater coco.


anyway sorry for the big pics, the small pics with a lotta text somehow seems more annoying. anyway how this was more helpful than annoying. if you no like lemme know i'll delete my post.

 

[papaduc]

While ur probably right it would be eaier to keep them happy for him, the strategy hes doing is topping up the solo cup to bury the weak spindly growth of seeds.

I don't have a lot of seed experience but ive read this strategy before, and that's what I did, but im curious if its needed if u nail the health from the beginning as I kept the lights away for too long causing really weak spindly stems from the start.

True, but that's not how you go about it.
If your stems are long and spindly you can bury them on a pot up, nothing wrong with that, and there's nothing wrong with using starter pots either.

But... if you look at some of those pictures, they're starter cups which are not even half full. That's not going to give you a good buffer zone between feeds and not a good way to start a plant. The coco will go from wet to bone dry in a matter of hours depending on the temperature of the room and the lights they're under.

If you're a beginner you need as little which can go wrong as possible, and having them in that small an amount of coco isn't a good idea.

 

[crazycanadian]

hey guys im back....after the last couple weeks at work being insanely busy i finally have some time to update....anyways....after my light got fried...they promptly sent the new ballast but the pigtail socket they sent me had no cord...none the less they have spent the last 2 wks out in the sun during the day under CFLs at night...last night my new pigtail socket finally came and they are now back in the tent...all i can say is what a difference in the amt of heat when the light is a bare bulb and hung vertically...it is significantly cooler for sure...i have about 8 plants that are really runty looking so i think ill germ 8-10 more seeds and possibly pull them since they are taking up space...ill veg for about 1 more wk and then flip to flower....5 of my coco plants are really growing nicely...they seem to look better after each feeding so i think i will do a cycle of feed/feed/water...then repeat...the soil plants are looking great....still growing much faster than the coco plants...they havent had any nutes yet but ill start giving them some soon...i give them a little water about every other day...with all the coco and perlite in the soil the cups dry out pretty fast...so i give about 1/4 cup at a time....now that they have put on some size im going to let them really dry out and then water them till there is run off...they stretched a bit in the sun light...but i buried them in more dirt and now they are tilting towards the light...

 

[stihgnobevoli]

looking much better. they shouldn't stretch too much now that the roots are spreading out and filling the cups. when you transplant em again just bury em some more. also a light breeze will cause the stems to thicken at the base providing more support. if you don't already have a fan blowing.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

hey guys im back....after the last couple weeks at work being insanely busy i finally have some time to update....anyways....after my light got fried...they promptly sent the new ballast but the pigtail socket they sent me had no cord...none the less they have spent the last 2 wks out in the sun during the day under CFLs at night...last night my new pigtail socket finally came and they are now back in the tent...all i can say is what a difference in the amt of heat when the light is a bare bulb and hung vertically...it is significantly cooler for sure...i have about 8 plants that are really runty looking so i think ill germ 8-10 more seeds and possibly pull them since they are taking up space...ill veg for about 1 more wk and then flip to flower....5 of my coco plants are really growing nicely...they seem to look better after each feeding so i think i will do a cycle of feed/feed/water...then repeat...the soil plants are looking great....still growing much faster than the coco plants...they havent had any nutes yet but ill start giving them some soon...i give them a little water about every other day...with all the coco and perlite in the soil the cups dry out pretty fast...so i give about 1/4 cup at a time....now that they have put on some size im going to let them really dry out and then water them till there is run off...they stretched a bit in the sun light...but i buried them in more dirt and now they are tilting towards the light...

Hey bud if ur just planning on running them around that vert light, and flowering in a week, uve got too many small plants at one level to get any weight off them. Id suggest putting them on shelf racks on multiple levels.

 

[crazycanadian]

Thanks for the replies guys...I do have a.fan blowing.on them and its been blowing on the for the last two wks....as for the high numbers I plan to kill half of them once they start to show sex would you guys think one gal container s are a.good.size

 

[Miraculous Meds]

one gallon containers to flower in after one more week of veg correct? If so then that should be enough given their size.

what are u going with coco coir I presume? about how many plants are u gonna flower, and what size light it that?

 

[stoned40yrs]

How did you come up with the plan to place them dinkyass plants into bloom one week from now? I'll bet any money they won't even show their sex by then. Makes no sense, money, time and investment wise to flower them in a week. Only reasons I could understand is if you grow in a tiny space or if you are so hard up for a buzz you will settle for some plants producing a few grams each. Seeing how nobody else has told you this then I must be missing something You are 3-4 weeks away from your plan making sense to me

 

[Miraculous Meds]

How did you come up with the plan to place them dinkyass plants into bloom one week from now? I'll bet any money they won't even show their sex by then. Makes no sense, money, time and investment wise to flower them in a week. Only reasons I could understand is if you grow in a tiny space or if you are so hard up for a buzz you will settle for some plants producing a few grams each. Seeing how nobody else has told you this then I must be missing something You are 3-4 weeks away from your plan making sense to me

I was going to try and ask questions about his goals to help him make a plan.

U tend to have a more direct approach. lol

 

[crazycanadian]

hey thanks for the replies...guess i should veg another 2 wks or so....ok so as for my goals they are this...i have 47 plants...im hoping to at least have 20 females...im going for a SOG style approach with this...i want short compact single cola plants...and am hoping to pull at least an oz off of each one with the 1000 watt light...by looking at the leaves they all look like they are indica dom...the leaves are wide and fat...the vast majority of them are in soil....its composed of coco...worm castings....seed starter mix thats organic and perlite....they seem to really grow well in it...i realize they wont show sex for a few wks even if i flip them now...they are still in the seedling phase...i think ill try 18/6 instead of 20/4 and see how they like it...also...what do u guys think about plugging my light into a surge protector...thanks!

 

[crazycanadian]

also...if i were to have done 12/12 from seed right from the start like i wanted to ...are you saying i would only get a few grams per plant? people have had great success with that method...what would be the waste if i did flip them in a wk or so?

 

[Miraculous Meds]

If they are indica they will only get to a few grams flipping early. Stretchy sat's are the best chance at getting those oz plants from 12/12 from seed.

If those are heavy indica id veg for at least 2 to 3 more weeks. and if ur going to do sog, then it wont work worth a crap with that many plants vert unless u do it on 3 levels or so, taking advantage of the vert canopy. If u don't want to do levels then u should do a horizontal grow if u want to keep them at one level.

 

[stoned40yrs]

If they are indica they will only get to a few grams flipping early. Stretchy sat's are the best chance at getting those oz plants from 12/12 from seed.

If those are heavy indica id veg for at least 2 to 3 more weeks. and if ur going to do sog, then it wont work worth a crap with that many plants vert unless u do it on 3 levels or so, taking advantage of the vert canopy. If u don't want to do levels then u should do a horizontal grow if u want to keep them at one level.

This^ I love vertical for bloom- the plants in a circle, the bulb in the middle and the plants praying to the almighty 1000watter

 

[Miraculous Meds]

this is what I came up with for 1 gallon pots for vert.