Miraculous Meds
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What are u saying here rives, everyones growing cannabis?
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What are u saying here rives, everyones growing cannabis?
If you believe the bullshit that the press has been putting out, mj is responsible for bazillions of gallons of California's misdirected water.
EPA estimates show that California loses 81 BILLION gallons of water a year to leaking pipes alone. Some communities losses of treated water run as high as 60%.
http://www.corrosion-club.com/waterfigures.htm
http://www.corrosion-club.com/waterfigures.htm
Miraculous Meds
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Im not that smart but doesn't it just go back in the water table?
retro with the HAMMER
great post bro and awesome graphic,
great post bro and awesome graphic,
Sure. However, if it has already been depleted from the reservoirs and treated in preparation for consumption, it is lost to the designated users and the treatment is a needless expense.
http://www.collective-evolution.com...ts-that-marijuana-can-protect-you-from-ebola/
Doctor Suggests That Marijuana Can Protect You From Ebola
Doctor Suggests That Marijuana Can Protect You From Ebola
Back with the insults again? Classy move man. It makes your opinion that much stronger. I know I almost changed my mind.
I'll give it to ya tho, you believe what you've been fed.
The reason we're having a water shortage, here in the desert southwest and slightly north of us is due to a lack of snow pack/rainfall the past several years. You know, that whole climate change thing. Look it up. The data is there. Hasn't a fucking thing to do with cows. 50% eh? LMFAO
Most cow production is in the MID west where they have grass fields, get rainfall, slaughter houses, deep water tables, etc.
Greenpeace eh? Yeah I'll get back to ya on that.lol
I guess if I wanted to believe what I was told, felt insulting people with a different opinion was a ok, I'd do 2 things. Join the democratic party and break out the glass for more koolaid.
What insults?
Nothing in my post was meant to be insulting.
It's just that you don't know much about the topic, so I thought you could use some educational information.
But just wasting my time, I guess. You are not interested in the real facts of the situation. Keep drinking the koolaid, and keep supporting the destruction of the planet. Sorry to inform you that cattle use half of all water in the western U.S. Not saying there are not other factors exacerbating the situation at this particular time, just stating a FACT. Look it up.
Would be hard to impeach the president when every member of congress is as implicit in the downfall of our country as he is. He can't do this shit by himself. Our government needs a serious overhaul. Won't happen tho. Come 11-4-14 citizens will go to the polls and vote the same 2 parties back in power all over again repeating the process. Definition of insanity isn't it?
none of the wasted water in my area goes anywhere but to evaporation...it gets to 115 here regularilly...lol... lots of orchards up for sale now
I will be releasing seeds shortly of strain that we have had in development for awhile now.
Ebolaway. $10k for 3 seeds. (Also known as pre86 Jipptonite)
Clinically proven and dentist approved....
Pre86 Jipptonite. lol Hype that shit up!!
Well the story behind it is ..... we had an inside connect at bio warfare lab in africa where they developed the new weaponized ebola. He "pocketed" some seeds in a special cavity.
He then flew to Japan but had a layover in FL and went for a surfing trip that turned ugly. He was thrown in jail for diddling kids at the beach. He then fled his bond and was picked up by Dog the bounty hunter. Dog pocketed the beans as he knew they were special.
Dog happens to be best friends with my grandfather as they used to smoke ice together in the early '90s. He then gifted my grandfather with some of the beans.
We started working the line and got them pretty uniform so we could now bring them to the public.
He then flew to Japan but had a layover in FL and went for a surfing trip that turned ugly. He was thrown in jail for diddling kids at the beach. He then fled his bond and was picked up by Dog the bounty hunter. Dog pocketed the beans as he knew they were special.
Dog happens to be best friends with my grandfather as they used to smoke ice together in the early '90s. He then gifted my grandfather with some of the beans.
We started working the line and got them pretty uniform so we could now bring them to the public.
The plants were fed a strict regimen of the following:
- blood meal of white tiger
- micronized elephant tusk
- manatee guano
- melted polar ice cap water
- blood meal of white tiger
- micronized elephant tusk
- manatee guano
- melted polar ice cap water
O.K. So now I'm going to give you the facts. I hope you read them and don't just dismiss them. I do not make posts without doing my homework. I have been studying this issue for many years.
You want just the facts about water, or the whole 9 yards re: beef production?
I'll start with water, including links:
http://www.publiclandsranching.org/htmlres/wr_guzzling_water.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_Southwestern_United_States
"It has been estimated that livestock, namely cattle, make up about 16 percent of human-caused carbon dioxide emissions. Also, although cropland takes up a small portion of land, irrigation for crops accounts for 80 percent of water consumption in the Southwest. A lot of this water is coming from the Colorado River, which is already almost completely used up by the time the water reaches Mexico. About half of irrigation water comes from groundwater in the Southwest, and this is also being used much faster than it is being replenished. If climate change raises the temperatures in the Southwest, then this will increase the amount of water that evaporates from the soil, plants, and bodies of water. Since the 1970s more water has been evaporated from reservoirs than is used by humans."
ftp://ftp.fao.org/docrep/fao/010/a0701e/a0701e04.pdf
http://www.globalissues.org/article/240/beef
"More than one third of the world’s grain harvest is used to feed livestock.
Breaking that down a little bit:
Almost all rice is consumed by people
While corn is a staple food in many Latin American and Sub-Saharan countries, “worldwide, it is used largely as feed.”
Wheat is more evenly divided between food and feed and is a staple food in many regions such as the West, China and India.
The total cattle population for the world is approximately 1.3 billion occupying some 24% of the land of the planet.
Some 70 to 80% of grain produced in the United States is fed to livestock.
Half the water consumed in the U.S. is used to grow grain for cattle feed.
A gallon of gasoline is required to produce a pound of grain-fed beef.
Junk-food chains, including KFC and Pizza Hut, are under attack from major environmental groups in the United States and other developed countries because of their environmental impact. Intensive breeding of livestock and poultry for such restaurants leads to deforestation, land degradation, and contamination of water sources and other natural resources. For every pound of red meat, poultry, eggs, and milk produced, farm fields lose about five pounds of irreplaceable top soil. The water necessary for meat breeding comes to about 190 gallons per animal per day, or ten times what a normal Indian family is supposed to use in one day, if it gets water at all.
… Overall, animal farms use nearly 40 percent of the world’s total grain production. In the United States, nearly 70 percent of grain production is fed to livestock.
Not only is land used up to grow grain to feed cattle, but additional land is of course required for pastures and grazing.
Furthermore, overgrazing leads to land degradation while top soil loss and water wastage and depletion are also extremely urgent issues.
With industrial agriculture, more petrochemicals are used. More energy is required to create fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides, etc, to grow the grain that is used to feed cattle.
Deforestation of large amounts of forests, including the Amazon, has occurred due to timber industries, industrial agriculture and also meat industry/cattle grazing:
Cattle raising has also been criticized for its role in the destruction of tropical forests. Hundreds of thousands of acres of tropical forests in Brazil, Guatemala, Costa Rica, and Honduras, to name just a few countries, have been leveled to create pasture for cattle. Since most of the forest is cleared by burning, the extension of cattle pasture also creates carbon dioxide, and, according to some environmentalists, contributes significantly to global warming."
http://cpluhna.nau.edu/Change/grazing.htm
"One common misconception of water use in the Colorado River basin and in the West in general is that rapidly growing urban areas are the main users of the region's limited water. In the upper Colorado River basin states, Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, and New Mexico, 90% of the water used is spread on land irrigated for crops, leaving 10% for urban and other uses. Of the 1.6 million acres irrigated in the upper basin, feed for livestock is raised on 88% of the irrigated land. In the lower basin states, California, Arizona, and Nevada, 85% of water goes to agricultural purposes, with a significant but slightly less percentage going to grow feed for livestock. Of the 99 million acres in the lower basin, 82 million acres are rangeland or pasture, while only 500,000 acres are classified as urban.
Studies have shown that nearly all Colorado River water is used for the irrigation agriculture, and most of the crops produced, including heavily water-consumptive crops such as alfalfa, are grown to provide feed for cattle. Despite the enormous public cost of the region's elaborate water damming and diversion projects, the seven Colorado River basin states, including those portions of the states lying outside the basin and not receiving any Colorado River water, produced only 13% of the total value of the nation's livestock. Though urban use, flood control, and recreation are commonly cited as major uses of the region's water supply, these uses are negligible when compared to that of agricultural interests associated with the livestock industry."
Raising beef in general, facts:
http://www.mcspotlight.org/media/reports/beyond.html
""Each year, the death toll continues to mount for consumers of beef and other red meats. According to a report by the U.S. Surgeon General, more than 70 percent of deaths in this country -- more than 1.5 million annually -- are related to diet, particularly the over- consumption of beef and other foods high in cholesterol and saturated fat. Study after study confirms that consumption of red meat is a primary factor in the development of heart disease, strokes, and colon and breast cancer. The American Heart Association, the American Cancer Society, the National Academy of Sciences, and the American Academy of Pediatrics all recommend that people reduce their consumption of red meat and other animal-derived foods, and eat more grain, fresh vegetables, and fruits instead.
Recently, the National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) found that beef contains the highest concentration of herbicides of any food sold in America. The NAS also found that beef ranks second only to tomatoes as the food posing the greatest cancer risk due to pesticide contamination, and ranks third of all foods in insecticide contamination. Aside from smoking, there is probably no greater personal health risk than eating too much beef and other meat.
GLOBAL HUNGER
The beef addiction of the United States and other industrialized nations has set off a global food crisis. Today, hundreds of millions of cattle are being fed precious grain so that American and European consumers can enjoy the pleasures of "marbled" beef. Meanwhile, nearly one billion people suffer from hunger and malnutrition, and between 40 and 60 million people -- mostly children -- die each year from starvation and related diseases
Currently, more than 70 percent of the U.S. grain harvest -- and more than one third of the grain produced in the world is fed to cattle and other livestock. We could provide proper nourishment to more than a billion people if we used the world's agricultural lands to grow food for human consumption rather than feed for cattle and other livestock.
THE ENVIRONMENT
Forests, particularly the rain forests of Central American and the Amazon, are being burned and cleared to make way for cattle pasture. Since 1960, more than 25 percent of the Central American forests have been lost to beef production -- most of it for export to the United States and Europe. It has been estimated that for every quarter-pound fast-food hamburger made from Central American beef, 55 square feet of tropical forest -- including 165 pounds of unique species of plants and animals -- is destroyed.
Today, the world's 1.3 billion cattle are stripping vegetation and compacting and eroding soil, thus creating deserts out of grasslands. More than 60 percent of the world's rangelands have been damaged by overgrazing during the past half century. In the United States, cattle have done more to alter the environment of the West than all the highways, dams, strip mines, and power plants put together.
Cattle production is a major cause of water pollution. In the United States, cattle produce nearly one billion tons of organic waste each year. It has been estimated that cattle and other livestock account for a significant percentage of pollutants in the nation's rivers, lakes, streams and aquifers. Raising cattle also requires vast amounts of water. Nearly half the water consumed in the United States is used to grow feed for cattle and other livestock -- while our precious stores of fresh water dwindle at an alarming rate.
The grain-fed cattle complex is now a significant factor in the generation of three major gases -- carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide -- that are responsible for global warming. The burning of the world's forests for cattle pasture has released billions of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere. The world's 1.3 billion cattle and other ruminant livestock emit 60 million tons of methane through their digestive systems directly into the atmosphere each year. Moreover, to produce feed crops for cattle requires the use of petro-chemical fertilizers which emit vast amounts of nitrous oxide. These gases are building up in the atmosphere, blocking heat from escaping the planet, and could cause a global climate change of cataclysmic proportions in the next century.
Cattle and beef production is contributing significantly to the dramatic loss of biodiversity, including species extinction, now occurring across the globe. In all major cattle producing countries, wildlife habitat is being destroyed to create cattle pasture, as in the rain forests of Central America, where the huge cattle population is destroying habitat and using up food and water needed by wildlife. In the United States and Australia, cattle ranching has resulted in the purposeful mass extermination of predator and "nuisance" species -- a virtual war on wildlife. In Africa, millions of wild animals have died of thirst or starvation after finding their migratory paths blocked by fences built to contain cattle."
Is that enough, or do you need more? There is plenty more if you need it, but you have Google. Do some research, or rebut my statements, and explain to me how cattle raising isn't harming our environment in an unprecedented fashion, and isn't wasting biomass and water, not to mention human lives.
You are a reasonable person. Do some reading, and perhaps you will change your mind. Cognitive dissonance is strongest when it comes to what we eat, and it's impact on the environment. Not saying you should become a vegetarian, although it is healthier for all concerned, just that you become more aware of the reality of the situation. 1.3 billion head of beef cattle in the world, using up 24% of the land mass, and a huge amount of resources, and causing the starvation deaths of millions. I'm not making this stuff up.
And I would never claim you would.
But most of that information is wrong. And not just a small bit.
I mean exaggerated to the 9th degree.
In all my years I never thought 15+ years of raising cattle would ever come up in conversation.
Maybe the studies were just conducted at inefficient farms/pastures.
Actually, I'm aware of all of that and agree with quite a bit of it. I read your posts, and most others (there are some exceptions!!), pretty carefully.
My point was that you make a good argument and then throw in something like "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Water shortages already in California due to the fact that cattle consume more than 50% of the water in the western U.S.[/FONT]", which is an obvious fallacy - the water shortage in California has almost nothing to do with cattle.
The same thing was done in your earlier post on the ice loss in the antarctic - you stated that "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the latest scientific data shows ice loss at the south pole also"[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] and the link that I posted shows record gains for the last 3 years. [/FONT]
To me, when people get so carried away with making their point that they throw in exaggerated and obviously erroneous information, it calls the credibility of the rest of the message into question.
It's the only two choices we have. The only way to approach it is, "vote the bums out", ie., vote out whatever party is now in control, in this case the Democrats, and then, next time, vote out the Republicans. Don't let them rule for 8 years, not that each party is not owned by the same corporations/1%ers, but make it as difficult as possible for them. There is a "SuperPac Fund created to reform and severely limit campaign "contributions", otherwise known as bribery, to fight back against the Koch Brothers and George Soros, etc. If each person donated $50, we can outspend them, but only working together. It's here:
https://mayday.us/
It's a Super Pac to end Super Pacs.
The water shortage in California and surrounding states has everything to do with cattle. What is California's main industry? Agriculture. Which industry in California uses the most water? Agriculture. What are the main agricultural products grown in California, and i the rest of the west? Grains. Why are we growing so much grain? To feed cattle! Are cattle natural to the habitat? No! They would not survive in nature, due to predation, and the fact that they could not feed themselves. So what have we done? Killed off all the predators! Was any of this necessary? Absolutely not! We had vast herds of millions and millions of buffalo, who fed themselves, but were hunted to extinction, their bodies not used, as they were by the Indians, but left to rot and feed the vultures. The damage caused by beef cattle is off the charts. Public enemy #1. Hopefully, there are some geneticists who take this problem as seriously as it should be, and develop a bioweapon that will wipe these eating machines off the face of the planet. Ebola for cows, as it were. This would delay the destruction of the planet, and prevent millions of children from starving to death.
