New growth curling up

[Miraculous Meds]

jd , sorry about ur troubles bud Ive had these bugs do this to me and I suggest u pull some top leaves that show damage the worst and inspect them with the scope that can go to 100 times and confirm these little devils, if that's ur prob it would be better to chop those down and start fresh cause those aren't going to put on any yield of note. Root aphids can cause that type of look too. keep an eye out for them as well, the adults when they are bad will turn into flys and they are smaller and quicker than fungus gnats. The root zone will show weakness and damage. But im leaning towards broads/cyclamens here.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Looked back at first pics again and my best guess is broads. So I know its hard as hell to find those things but they like to hide towards the leaf veins and petioles, that's where to look imo. Even though u haven't found them I would proceed as they are there.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

ok slow down. before you do ay chems or exspensive or potentially dangerous treatments lets make you a little check list.

1) obtain scope capable of a minimum of 100x. minimum not the outside limit of rage but a comfortable 100x view. 200x would be preferable. youll find the bugs and eggs in the small newest growth sites at the tops of the plants. the eggs are easier to find and will likely be present on older leaves as well.

2) go anywhere but here and research images of bms and their eggs. the bm pages here are ridiculous. also look up all the tarsomid type mites as it could be cyclamen or russets too. also look up sessile trichs and resin glands so you can know the difference. learn where to look fir them. read gov. web pages on these bugs. look up non canna sites for info as well as these forums.

3) make a plan including. what if it is t. mites and what to do if you dont find anything.

4) research how to clean your room and know the life cycle of the bug to make that plan effective.

5) IF...... you find the bugs, those plants are going to cost you more money to grow to fruition vs starting over after a thorough clean. also any plants you have in veg or elsewhere are likely tainted and unless you cant replace and cant live without them them id scrap and start fresh with those too.
remember that trying to recover losses by getting what you can from them is going to cost you more in terms of lost time and effort. you cant squeeze blood from a turnip.

6) if you decide to treat your moms and veg remember that this could take some repeated attempts and several eradication efforts must be practiced in tandem. skip the organic sprays unless it just makes you feel good but dont count them as part of the required minimum of 3 definite proven eradication efforts that you must employ. wont hurt to include them as additional treatment but they arent reliable enough to be used to replace one of the 3.
some examples.
avid, forbid, heat, phantom or pylon, and to a much lesser degree but defiitely something i wouldnt skip, kontos.
after at least three methods are chosen some supportive treatments include biological controls, predator mites, beneficial microbes that attack mites,


7) read the manufacturers label and msds sheets for any chems you use. understand what exposure looks like and review first aid for accidental exposure. make sure you understand the plant residual info and plan your timeline for your grow accordingly. make sure to use all required protective gear.

8) lastly no matter what you do start adding aspirin at a pill per gallon to your tank. immediately.
if you really want to illicit a sar then chitosan would also be a solid choice.

these plants could be ruined and honestly all this would be avoidable if you scrap 100% of your plants and clean heat treat the room and bring in fresh non infected cuts from an experienced grower and hit them with 2 systemics upon entry to your room to take clones from for your next round.

i suggest a do over personally. my guess is you could probably find something as good if not better than whatever you had. no need to torture yourself to hold on to a replaceable cut.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

i forgot to add number 7 and ill edit it in.
7) read the manufacturers label and msds sheets for any chems you use. understand what exposure looks like and review first aid for accidental exposure. make sure you understand the plant residual info and plan your timeline for your grow accordingly. make sure to use all required protective gear.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

I like what st8 is laying down. But those miticides imo will wipe them out, so cutting down and starting over is what I would do with the flower plants but if ur going to use those chems then I wouldn't throw away any valuable genetics.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

oh ad i dont recomend doing that with the flowering plats i was referring to veg room. the flowering room is already a loss.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

youll find the bugs and eggs in the small newest growth sites at the tops of the plants. the eggs are easier to find and will likely be present on older leaves as well.

 

[jdyer23]

Once again though it's just on this cheese now I'm going to take some snaps of some other flowering plants in my room it's just so hard to believe they wouldn't yield much some of these look like 10 ounce plants and nugs are forming nice I saw a product nuke em also not sure if anyone had heard of that I will examine once again tonight for a few hours trying to spot one or an egg or any real sign

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

Maybe there is not BMs. If there is, you're shooting yourself in the wallet to try.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Yeah but I would want to know for sure before I culled them. Its down to this, if its bm's me and str8 agree to get rid of them and start over, that's the way that will get u more bud quicker. If its not then maybe u will be fine with harvesting. gotta confirm!

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

The otHer plants in the room are also at week two and there's no sign of damage? Are the damaged plant looking better or worse?

 

[jdyer23]

I'll be back tonight when the light comes on with pictures of other plants in the room and more observations and hopefully a. Hour or two of looking all over each plant

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

I agree. notice that is step one in my post. It could be something else entirely. There's no way to know without confirming with a scope.

 

[Apache Kush]

BM's. . . RA's. . . the unknown brain bugs?
Its like Starship motherfucking Troopers in this bitch lol
(where is NPH when you need him)
Its enough to make your head spin def sucks



Good luck man, I hope you find them and exterminate with extreme prejudice.

 

[jdyer23]

Do after some more examination when the light kicked on I still have yet to spot one I ripped off some new lead growth and examined out side of the room under 100x magnification but found nothing no eggs no mites the search will continue I will post pictures of some other plants in the room now and get back to searching

 

[jdyer23]

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Sorry for the ness but you get the point

 

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Deficient but showing no signs of stress like the cheese and purple kush did and forming nice nugs for week 2

 

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Day 10 if I'm not mistaken

 

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