Destroy & Rebuild: The Final Chapter - Part 1 (The Planning Phase)

[Snype]

so how many plants are you planning to have in total?

The first grow will be 16-20 plants in soil under 8,000 watts. I'll clone those in VEG to get my MOMs which will probably be another 15 plants. Then I'll be getting other clones that people owe me which could be another 25 plants. So this first grow I'll have about 60 plants but only up to 20 of them will be in flowering. I have a lot of different seed packs that I want to pop so I'll always have about 80ish plants. I'll never have more than 99 though. Those days are done until laws become better.

 

[high life 45]

Im sure your on a budget, but If possible I would use plywood of some sort instead of osb. Paint the ply with some kilz latex primer. A nice layer of pond liner on top of it. If your building off of a cement slab you want to use PT (pressure treated) lumber so It doesnt rot from condensation/moisture comming off the slab. which in turn might rot the osb..

Osb is like a sponge and turns to shit if it gets wet. . If your planning on growing here for a while osb also is gonna sag after some weight is on it.

Just throwin it out there, good luck snype..

 

[tleaf jr.]

25 mothers at all times? why so many strains snype seems counter productive for cash cropping no ? what made you start dwindling sown plant numbers did you have a close call? not to be nosy or anything just seems like a different snype than im used to.

 

[Snype]

Im sure your on a budget, but If possible I would use plywood of some sort instead of osb. Paint the ply with some kilz latex primer. A nice layer of pond liner on top of it. If your building off of a cement slab you want to use PT (pressure treated) lumber so It doesnt rot from condensation/moisture comming off the slab. which in turn might rot the osb..

Osb is like a sponge and turns to shit if it gets wet. . If your planning on growing here for a while osb also is gonna sag after some weight is on it.

Just throwin it out there, good luck snype..

Thank you so much for your information! I'll be sure to change the OSB to plywood instead. This floor is not on ground level so I don't have cement. I just have to rip up the old floor and level it by bolting 2x4's to the floor joists so I can put in a level subfloor. If you ever see any other fixes, please let me know.

25 mothers at all times? why so many strains snype seems counter productive for cash cropping no ? what made you start dwindling sown plant numbers did you have a close call? not to be nosy or anything just seems like a different snype than im used to.

I need to have variety and prepare for a longer future in this business. Things in this business can change fast. The first few crops will surely be all about production and mono cropping but after that I'll be growing in organic soil with a variety of different cuts and flavors. I want to focus more on the retail side instead of the wholesale side and I have to have options and the best quality for the end consumer. I need to have my own type of packaging that's unique and try to build my brand in my markets.

As far as plant numbers, not really trying to fuck around with the powers. I had a good lucky run never getting busted so far and I'm not trying to push my luck.

 

[tleaf jr.]

I need to have variety and prepare for a longer future in this business. Things in this business can change fast. The first few crops will surely be all about production and mono cropping but after that I'll be growing in organic soil with a variety of different cuts and flavors. I want to focus more on the retail side instead of the wholesale side and I have to have options and the best quality for the end consumer. I need to have my own type of packaging that's unique and try to build my brand in my markets.

As far as plant numbers, not really trying to fuck around with the powers. I had a good lucky run never getting busted so far and I'm not trying to push my luck.

sounds like words of a wise man

 

[Snype]

Im sure your on a budget, but If possible I would use plywood of some sort instead of osb. Paint the ply with some kilz latex primer. A nice layer of pond liner on top of it. If your building off of a cement slab you want to use PT (pressure treated) lumber so It doesnt rot from condensation/moisture comming off the slab. which in turn might rot the osb..

Osb is like a sponge and turns to shit if it gets wet. . If your planning on growing here for a while osb also is gonna sag after some weight is on it.

Just throwin it out there, good luck snype..

There seems to be many options for plywood at Home Depot. Can you look over these options and tell me which one to get for the floor?

1. Sande Plywood (Common: 3/4 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft.; Actual: 0.709 in. x 48 in. x 96 in.) - Model #454559 - $44.98

2. 3/4 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. C-3 Red Oak Domestic Plywood Model #165956 - $49.98

3. PureBond 23/32 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. Poplar Plywood Model #770579 - $39.98

4. Maple Plywood (Common: 3/4 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft.; Actual: 0.750 in. x 48 in. x 96 in.) Model #263012 - $44.98

5. Birch Plywood (FSC Certified) (Common: 3/4 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft.; Actual: 0.703 in. x 48 in. x 96 in.) Model #332941 - $46.97

6. Red Oak Plywood (FSC Certified) (Common: 3/4 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft.; Actual: 0.703 in. x 48 in. x 96 in.) Model #332733 - $49.97

 

[high life 45]

I would look for a another t&g ply of the same size. Tongue and groove interlocks at the seams where ever your not landing on a joist so it doesn't flexwhen you step on it. If you doo the pond liner right, you will b able remove the ply and bring it with if you have to leave ever. A local big name contractor once told me he will never ever use osb because we live in a rainy area. "I'd never put my name on osb" is what he actually said. I use osb for walls and just make sure its painted and raised off the floor 5/8 of an inch. I caulk all my seams and then use vulkem on the floor seam because it remains flexible and rubbery after curing. Keeps the rooms nice and sealed and water proof for the most part.

Hth
HL 45

 

[Snype]

I would look for a another t&g ply of the same size. Tongue and groove interlocks at the seams where ever your not landing on a joist so it doesn't flexwhen you step on it. If you doo the pond liner right, you will b able remove the ply and bring it with if you have to leave ever. A local big name contractor once told me he will never ever use osb because we live in a rainy area. "I'd never put my name on osb" is what he actually said. I use osb for walls and just make sure its painted and raised off the floor 5/8 of an inch. I caulk all my seams and then use vulkem on the floor seam because it remains flexible and rubbery after curing. Keeps the rooms nice and sealed and water proof for the most part.

Hth
HL 45

I was just reading about the T&G option. I guess all the other options that I listed weren't really for subfloors. What about this option:

T&G Dryply Plywood (Common: 23/32 4 ft. x 8 ft.; Actual: 0.703 in. x 48 in. x 96 in.) - Model # 439058 - $42.88
DryPly plywood sub-floor panels have a water-repellent coating to provide weather protection during the normal exposed construction cycle.
California residents: seeProposition 65 information
Backed by a lifetime limited warranty
Holds hardwood floors firmly - less squeaks
No surface flaking - excellent adhesion when used under laminate flooring
Superior stiffness - decreases the probability of tile cracking

Thanks again for the advice! In the end I'll have a much better room with help from you guys!

 

[high life 45]

That's the stuff. Its even coated.

 

[Snype]

That's the stuff. Its even coated.

Should I use a primer before I paint it? If so what brand and type of paint and primer should I use. I've heard of people using Killz on floors but they also say that it chips. Want to see what you think I should use. Also do you see any problems putting a layer of sound board right under the plywood? The sound board would be attached right to the floor joists and then the plywood would go right over the soundboard.

Also with the insulation, would you suggest that I put the insulation so that the vapor barrier is facing me if I'm looking at the floor? Or should I put it in from the downstairs ceiling instead?

 

[high life 45]

There's some special glue stuff you can put under the under the play designed for sound absorption. I'll try to find it. Pm me if I don't get back in a few days, I'm busy. I think you can put the soundboard under the ply, not 100% on that.

The Kraft facing/vapor barrier is always supposed to face the interior wall afaik

Priming the ply will protect it for sure.

 

[gaiusmarius]

good luck with your new project, try to make sure you don't repeat old mistakes.

no one should know about this new place!

 

[RB56]

good luck with your new project, try to make sure you don't repeat old mistakes.

no one should know about this new place!

Feeling like a fool for wishing the same thing. Almost seems like a different outcome would be a miracle. One more time!

 

[Dick Turpin]

I also wish you all the best for you new project and also hope you are happy with your result.

All the best !

 

[RB56]

Snype, I wish you well but I'm not seeing that as a possible outcome. Weed has a cycle. Your brain chemistry has its own cycle that doesn't match. You are a full weed cycle and an unknown number of brain cycles from any return on your plan. You suggested a budget based on a loan and have exceeded it on plywood.

You may reply with tales of thousands in hash oil mysteriously appearing or a casino system that will pull you out of the growing you said you hated so much. Don't care. Don't believe it. You're a danger to yourself and anyone around you. I'm not going to watch this again.

 

[Snype]

Snype, I wish you well but I'm not seeing that as a possible outcome. Weed has a cycle. Your brain chemistry has its own cycle that doesn't match. You are a full weed cycle and an unknown number of brain cycles from any return on your plan. You suggested a budget based on a loan and have exceeded it on plywood.

You may reply with tales of thousands in hash oil mysteriously appearing or a casino system that will pull you out of the growing you said you hated so much. Don't care. Don't believe it. You're a danger to yourself and anyone around you. I'm not going to watch this again.

Words like this only give me more motivation and energy to succeed. But in life anything can go wrong. The last 2 locations were failures to some extent in terms of generating money due to other people. The information that I gained still made those locations a success. I would say that the odds on this next location are on my side. Things can't keep going wrong forever.

It's not like I came in here from the casino and said I won crazy money. In the end I lost but I gained a place to rest my head and plan the next journey, which cost me less than finding a place to live where I couldn't grow. I may not have all the cash that I need at this point but 20oz of hash oil turned into cash is plenty of money to pay for the expenses associated with this grow. Of course it will take time to turn everything into money. Luckily we're both on food stamps and won't have to pay for any food expenses which will help until the first harvest comes.

No one said this was going to be easy. It's going to take a lot of work and dedication to pull this next adventure off. Hopefully it all ends well and helps motivate more people who find themselves in a similar situation.

The good thing is that we had the money for the first and last months payment. Snypette also had 5 oz's of trees left and she's going to move most of it to help fund our adventure. I also have a patient that is still waiting for 2 oz of Hash Oil as well but I still have to make the product which will be in about a week but that's 3k in money to start a couple of temporary flowering rooms. It's not like we need to buy any equipment because we still have lots of lights and equipment for the first crop.

We have a pretty good plan. Technically the clock doesn't start ticking for us until November 1st. We can move in sooner but once the clock starts, the stress begins so it's better to wait for root structure before the clock starts. We are still waiting for a few more cuttings to root before we make the trip. 11 cuts have roots right now and have been put into soil. We just need 5 more cuts to root which will hopefully be any day now. If things go right, the first crop should be done flowering by February 15, 2015. I can't see why I won't be able to move enough oil by then to build the room. I also made a lot of plans for brokering outdoor crops from one area to another now that the outdoor crops in my area are almost ready. That's something I didn't plan on before which gives us more cash flow.

I have no idea why people waste their time going into threads that they don't enjoy. Their time could easily be spent better to accomplish their own life goals. Now lets keep this thread in a positive direction! The mission continues...

 

[nonstop]

i wish you the best!

 

[Lapides]

I am a douche

 

[JointOperation]

i wish the best.. but expect the worst..

just like i hope for peace.. but prepare for war.

 

[stonedwarrior]

sbd