help, questions & comments, info.. please

[dreams4dreamin]

Hey guys, I am entirely new to this garderner lifestyle. I currently am puttin together a garden of my own and am seeking info, help, tips. So currently I am goin to list my current inventory and wish for useful information, tips and help from u guys. My current situation consist of:

1: I have a 4x4x7 grow tent with a 1,000 watt mh/hps. I also have 250 watt cfl blue spectrum bulb with ballast jus for veg. Also a carbon scrubber filter wifh an 6" inline fan and 25' ducting for ventilation. With two 6" ocillating fans and one 4" mini computer fan, and also one 6" heater/fan.

2. I have two de-humidifiers, one humidifier, a ph up & down kit, one thermometer/hygrometer.

3. I have a combination of bag soil mixed with organic amendments of my personal preference. (Soil consist of: 12 quarts Fox farms Ocean forest, 12 quarts Fox farm Happy frog, 16 quarts Black gold's natural and organic soil, 1.5 cubic feet of Roots organics soil, 15lbs of wriggler worm's worm castings, & 1kg of dry Coco coir. Mixed with about: 3/4 lb of insect frass & mealworm frass, 3 and 1/2 lb of Azomite, few tbl spoons of fulvic & humic acids, 2lbs of greensand, and roughly about 2 ounces of Cali secrets- Bio live meal (contains: beneficial bacteria, mychorrizae, fishbone meal, fish meal, alfalfa meal, crab meal, shrimp meal, langbeinite, humates, kelp meal. )

4. Nutrients: 1. Fox farm trio (Grow big, big bloom, tiger bloom.) 2. Fox farm trio (beastie bloomz, open sesame, cha-ching). 3. Advance nutrients: Hygrozyme. 4. Bio bizz: Root juice. 5. Advance nutrients: Sensizym. 5. Advance nutrients: Terpinator. 6. Advance nutrients: Flawless finish. 7. Advance nutrients: Rhino skin. 8. Advance nutrients: Bud Blood. 9. Advance nutrients: Overdrive. 10. Advance nutrients: Bud candy. 11. Advance nutrients: Kushie kush. 12: Bio biz: Fish mix. 13. Advance nutrients: Nirvana. 14. General hydroponics: Cal-mag. 15. Sea bird guano (12-11-6) 16. Jamaican bat guano (0-10-0) 17. Indonesian bat guano (0-7-0) 18. Cali Secrets connesuier veg nutes (12-6-20) *(contains: micro-nutes, humic & fulvic acids, kelp, yucca, molasses, & more). 19. Wayne's 100% organic worm castings and microbe rich soluble plant food. 20. I also have: amino acids, mkp bloom soluble (0-52-34), extra molasses, and extra mychorrizae. .

5. Strains and genetics: (single seed centre). 1.flowerbomb kush, green crack, holy grail kush, k.o. crop automatic, purple pyralysis, sharksbreath, strawberry cheesecake, puff puff pass out, money maker, atomic bomb, pyscho crack, k.o. kush, Blueberry og,cotton candy, blz bud, kripple shock, afghan kush x skunk, afghan ryder, blue dream (reg), vanilla kush, super iced grapefruit, Acapulco gold, fruit punch, truepower og (reg), cheesequake (reg), pineapple express, pineapple chunk, blue ox, socal master kush (reg), lemon kush, nordic jack, cash crop automatic.. more to come.

Thats currently what im dealing with, any info, tip, help will b greatly appreciated. I am hoping to become jus as good as anyone else. Hopefully in time I will. Thanks for ur help everyone

 

[Snype]

Sounds like your off to a great start. If your going to amend your soil with all those organics, you shouldn't need any bottles. I'd try and figure out what grow style that your going to use and how many plants that you would need for your project. If you go Sea Of Green then you'd grow smaller plants and can have more plants in the tent. You could probably fit 16 small plants to flower up to maybe 20" or so or you could do 9 medium size plants maybe they can finish around 30" or so. It also depends if your going to SCROG your plants or LST them. There are so many options that you can use. It's really up to you for what you want to do. I have a tent around that size and I like to do 9 plants in 5 gallon pots of soil. I also get lots of stakes to close in the plant canopy a little so the plants don't take up each others space as much. I like to Supercrop them or top them at around the 4th internode and then grow them to 16" and then flower them out with around 6 tops per plant. There are many ways to go though. This is just one option.

 

[dreams4dreamin]

Also I will b usin 3 gallon grow bags for transplant, I will veg in plastic party cups. Party cups will b layered soil. Bottom filled with soil above and top halp in pure pro-mix bx mychorrizae with vermiculite. For early stage seedlings

 

[dreams4dreamin]

Thanx snype. I was intrested in main-lining with sum lst. It looks to me beneficial and may give me sum good yields

 

[Snype]

Also I will b usin 3 gallon grow bags for transplant, I will veg in plastic party cups. Party cups will b layered soil. Bottom filled with soil above and top halp in pure pro-mix bx mychorrizae with vermiculite. For early stage seedlings

Well now that I see you are using 3 gallon grow bags, I'd do 16 plants probably untopped and do some sort of sea of green with smaller plants. I'd shoot for 1.5 oz plants but if you do it perfect, you could get 2oz plants and end up with 2 pounds. You're starting from seed though so it's hard to say what height to flower them out at. With a 7' height grow tent, you could lose 12" from your reflector, then you want the reflector to be 2' away from the plants with the 1,000 watter and then your pot will also take up about a foot of vertical space. So right there alone you lose 4' of space. At most you would want the plants to finish at 36" so you'd have to be careful of stretch once you flip to flowering. For 16 plants in such a small space, I'd wouldn't want them more than 30" so if you're plants stretch 2x then you would flower them out at 15". This all looks good on paper but you're probably going to grow multiple types of strains which could all grow very differently as well. I'm sure it won't be as easy as on paper. You'll probably learn a lot though.

 

[Snype]

Thanx snype. I was intrested in main-lining with sum lst. It looks to me beneficial and may give me sum good yields

The problem that I see with LSTing with only 3 gallon grow bags is that it will bush out your plants more and you'll have less space for more plants. In that situation I'd maybe do 4 or 6 plants and make them bush out. But in that scenario you would want bigger pots. If you had 6 plants in 3 gallon pots of soil, they would probably need to be watered every day at around 21 days into flowering. I'd shoot for a pot that needed to be watered every 3 days or more. That's why if you went with less plants and LST'd them, I'd switch to 5 gallon pots instead.

 

[dreams4dreamin]

I never really put that in perspective. Thanx for that input and u are right. If I supercrop or topped them along with the lst, should that help prevent sum otlf the height issue to a minimal? Or would it jus b more sufficient to leave until the 15" and flower?

 

[dreams4dreamin]

I think I will go with the 5gallon pots. I have ben thinkin bout that lately. Im glad I decided to chase more information before I started. I really ben anticipating to start and I appreciate ur input

 

[Snype]

Also you have to think about males as well. The way that I see the grow with the 5 gallon pots, you wouldn't have more than 6 plants. The grow isn't going to be perfect because males are going to have to take up some space in there until you figure out what's male. Because of that, you'll going to lose some space that the rest of the females would have had if those male plants never existed. Because of that, I'd probably want to grow as many small plants in the tent instead so you can try and do a test crop to see what female you want to use in your second crop. It's going to be hard to maximize a crop from seed. So make sure you take a clone form each plant before you put them into flower. I have some great cloning threads in my signature in my various guides for new growers. They could come in handy for you if you don't know how to clone yet. Anywhere there's some more things for you to consider. I go back and forth with my plans all day because there are so many options. I'm trying to plan out a new grow as well and still having figured out exactly how I'm going to do it and i've been doing this for 20+ years. Just keep thinking and I'm sure others will have some good ideas as well. There's also vertical options as well but I've never done it that way but I have lots more space than you do.

 

[dreams4dreamin]

Majority of my seeds are feminized tho, I only have a bout 4 regular seeds. And for that reason, I was thinkin of runnin all feminized first. I only got regs to try out n if I liked em I will clone out. But my regs will run with regs. And fems run wit fems. Ibut after I finished my first successful run, I am planning to add a few more tents for more space and veg and flower and etc. Im jus tryna get my feet wet a lil and then den do a bit swimming lol.

 

[dreams4dreamin]

would a fan speed controller for a 6" inline fan in a 4x4x7 grow tent be absolutely necessary? ?