Terpenation at Terpene Station

[Pangea]

I was going to get a 6"-12"adapter and figured I could angle the ports at 45 degree similar to specialized formulations upgrades, but your probably right, just get the 12" and be done with it.

Who sells pre welded 10 or 12 " caps or is everyone having theres custom machined and welded? Should I get an additional recovery port for an optional extra recovery pumpÉ

 

[flatslabs]

6" to 10" end cap reducer with a 6" lid and both recovery pots gives you a lot of versatility.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Just put a 2" hole in and run a recovery tree off that like a mk4 or 5

 

[Permacultuure]

I was going to get a 6"-12"adapter and figured I could angle the ports at 45 degree similar to specialized formulations upgrades, but your probably right, just get the 12" and be done with it.

Who sells pre welded 10 or 12 " caps or is everyone having theres custom machined and welded? Should I get an additional recovery port for an optional extra recovery pumpÉ

I could steer you in the right direction for 12" lids....pm me

 

[Pangea]

Im all about the versatility, and if Im building it from scratch it doesnt seem like it will cost much more at all to go with a IV design, though I`m not up to date with the 4 and 5 yet over and above their larger spool sizes, the five looks just amazing, but way to complex to figure out in good time. The 4 seems just right, just the two custom t's and vavles for multi recovery options and additional sight glass's? I'm in. Same question though, anyone selling pre welded 12" caps or is it still a custom requirement, same question for the straight spools with side ports, and are all the side ports 3/8"? I gave glacier site a good searching and didnt find them.

Perhaps a link to a thread that covers all these questions that have been asked and answered a bunch already would be more appropriate.

Thanks

 

[Backyard Farmer]

There's literally no benefit to having the reducer lid setup if you're starting from zero. The only advantage Youd have would be using a small recovery spool which isn't an advantage or an increase in versatility ...the large pot will work fine for big columns and small columns but the small pot only works for small columns , not sure what the benefit or increase in versatility? is unless you already have one laying around...?

The mk5 is a mk4 with another column on it so the plumbing is the same but the vent tube has a t on the down tube to catch both vent hoses and the columns dump through 90s and there's some extra valves to isolate the columns from each other.

You could make a mk4 in to a 5 with just more parts...

I got a mk4 thru wolfwurx and have another one I need to finish building out that I had the lid welding and machining done locally.

There is a 1/4" port for vac and 1/8" I believe for the meter, recovery valves are 3/8 , don't forget to put one on your injection tee so you can heat up and recover the liquid on the column with out passing hot solvent thru ur recovery spool.

 

[Pangea]

Thanks! The isolated column recovery is key!

Agree'd with you, the 4 is the versatility Im after. My main hesitation was price and waiting time, both of which are better satisfied with self machining/welding...

I found the MKIV Phoenix thread, a much more soothing 9 pages to catch up on.

Is the FatherEarth still riding the terp train?been awhile since you posted some pics!

 

[Backyard Farmer]

you can build a mark 4 for under 3000 if you do the maching and welding locally and are keen on sourcing your parts

 

[Pangea]

Including pumps is what Im thinking, im going full ss on everything so she can handle my cold winters and to keep it pharm grade, also want to try out different propane/butane mixtures. I think I can keep it around that price, maybe a tad more after shipping and dollar conversion.

 

[Chonkski]

There's literally no benefit to having the reducer lid setup if you're starting from zero. The only advantage Youd have would be using a small recovery spool which isn't an advantage or an increase in versatility ...the large pot will work fine for big columns and small columns but the small pot only works for small columns , not sure what the benefit or increase in versatility? is unless you already have one laying around...?

The mk5 is a mk4 with another column on it so the plumbing is the same but the vent tube has a t on the down tube to catch both vent hoses and the columns dump through 90s and there's some extra valves to isolate the columns from each other.

You could make a mk4 in to a 5 with just more parts...

I got a mk4 thru wolfwurx and have another one I need to finish building out that I had the lid welding and machining done locally.

There is a 1/4" port for vac and 1/8" I believe for the meter, recovery valves are 3/8 , don't forget to put one on your injection tee so you can heat up and recover the liquid on the column with out passing hot solvent thru ur recovery spool.

No real benefit unless you're upgrading an mkIII. Just had both the mkIII and the MKiv so I combined them. It makes operation a little easier for me. Here's my system

 

[synthacide]

anyone know of any suppliers with 10" or 12" premade lids?

time to upgrade my terp! i was one the first to build, way back when pressure pots and ptfe liners were all I could pull off!

I still have pretty slow runs, compared to some of you guys, wish I could get my run time down a bit

 

[pharmco]

anyone know of any suppliers with 10" or 12" premade lids?

time to upgrade my terp! i was one the first to build, way back when pressure pots and ptfe liners were all I could pull off!

I still have pretty slow runs, compared to some of you guys, wish I could get my run time down a bit

Glacier sells 6x12 end cap reducers, which allow you to clamp a 6 inch spool onto a 12 inch. Chonski is using an end cap reducer in the photo he posts a few posts back.

I think Terpp Extractors may be getting some 6x10 end caps as well.

 

[Chonkski]

Glacier sells 6x12 end cap reducers, which allow you to clamp a 6 inch spool onto a 12 inch. Chonski is using an end cap reducer in the photo he posts a few posts back.

I think Terpp Extractors may be getting some 6x10 end caps as well.

Yesssir


Edit: dunno why icmag uploaded my photo sideways. My apologies!

 

[Pangea]

Sorry if this is stupid, but I was just reading the specs on the CPS TR21 and it had the ratings for Direct Vapor(up to 2.5Lbs/min) and Direct Liquid(up to 10Lbs/min) Can these units pump liquid butane? Would it make sense to run a cold trap before the recovery pump to condense to a liquid for the pump to run up to 4x quicker?

Just waiting on a the 12" dip tube to get threaded before I get my lid welded. If all goes well we'll be looping before November!

 

[synthacide]

Glacier sells 6x12 end cap reducers, which allow you to clamp a 6 inch spool onto a 12 inch. Chonski is using an end cap reducer in the photo he posts a few posts back.

I think Terpp Extractors may be getting some 6x10 end caps as well.

well thanks!

two questions to chonski,

wondering why you still use the 6" spool atop the 12"?

also please elaborate on your recovery tank chilling thingie! Ive used a cooler with no lid, im sure you see the issue with that, are you using dry ice? I've been gone a while, and haven't seen a thread with a good solution to increasing the life of dry ice

thanks for the replies ya'll!

 

[Gray Wolf]

Sorry if this is stupid, but I was just reading the specs on the CPS TR21 and it had the ratings for Direct Vapor(up to 2.5Lbs/min) and Direct Liquid(up to 10Lbs/min) Can these units pump liquid butane? Would it make sense to run a cold trap before the recovery pump to condense to a liquid for the pump to run up to 4x quicker?

Just waiting on a the 12" dip tube to get threaded before I get my lid welded. If all goes well we'll be looping before November!

It has to be pumped off as a vapor, to leave behind the oil. That controls the speed.

 

[Pangea]

I understand that, but once it has vaporized is it beneficial to re condense it into a liquid for quicker recovery? 2.5lbs/min vs 10lbs/min? I have free cooling for half the year.

 

[pharmco]

well thanks!

two questions to chonski,

wondering why you still use the 6" spool atop the 12"?

also please elaborate on your recovery tank chilling thingie! Ive used a cooler with no lid, im sure you see the issue with that, are you using dry ice? I've been gone a while, and haven't seen a thread with a good solution to increasing the life of dry ice

thanks for the replies ya'll!

He likely uses it for the additional space it provides. Dunno how much, but he can hold a lottt more solvent/concentrate in his collection spool.

I'm pretty sure the 6x6 spool can only hold 3 lbs of butane.

 

[Gray Wolf]

I understand that, but once it has vaporized is it beneficial to re condense it into a liquid for quicker recovery? 2.5lbs/min vs 10lbs/min? I have free cooling for half the year.

Good question! Never tried pumping straight liquid beyond push pull, only slugs of it, which the pumps didn't care for.

How would you design your system to rapidly condense the vapor to a liquid and always present it to the pump as a flooded section, so it didn't see slugs? Interim reservoir?

 

[Chonkski]

I use it for the easier "switch, and cleanup". On top of the added relief of head space when I want to let it flow for longer than usual.

In no way is it very necessary, and some say the 6" is to small and cluttered, but I don't plan on switching to my mkiV lid anytime soon. I have added everything I need accommodate