Help Me Help a great friend with colon cancer

[StoneyK]

I have a very close friend who has stage 4 colon cancer ive been trying to convince him to let me make him some high cbd rick simpson oil.
I wish he wouldnt have waited till he was so bad but now he is finally ready to give anything a shot.
I very much need to source a good cut of cannatonic and some raw cannabis to make some initial batches of oil until I can get my cut goin.
Im in socal so im hoping somwone here knows of a compassionate source or at least a source of some kind of source im thinking you guys here are my best resource.
Thank you so much for any help or sugestions in advance!!!!

 

[Human GuineaPig]

I can't help you source some but a friend's dad has liver cancer and we've been treating him with RSO. I'll tell you what we've seen so far.

Same story, long before it got serious it was offered to him but he refused. He wasn't able to complete the chemo and was sent home to die. After 5 days of being bedridden, already maxed out on morphine and still in pain just form turning over he tried the RSO.

It was an 85% high THC tincture, the very next day after trying it he was up and about; went to the supermarket, to dinner with his wife, etc.

When he started running out we gave him some 50% high CBD tincture, he liked it but according to his son he wasn't sleeping as well and didn't have as much appetite.

So even though theoretically CBD is better for tumors his son is more into improving his quality of life so we switched back to high THC because of the appetite control and it helps him sleep. Although theoretically CBD is better for pain, the patient is no longer taking any analgesics at all. No morphine, no pills, no nothing.

He was given 1 month to live 4 months ago and his health keeps improving, I'm not sure what his medical prognosis is but at least he's not in pain.

 

[StoneyK]

Wow thats definitely something!
My buddy is in the same boat he cant deal with kemo anymore...
Thanks for the reply your real world experience is invaluable!
I can at least do something for him with what ive got.
How much of the tincture did you use for each dose?

 

[Human GuineaPig]

Most people dose RSO in a syringe but you need steady hands and its quite easy to overdose so I make tinctures and put them in a dropper. So if you have a 30 ml dropper you put 15 ml of oil and 15 ml of olive oil or grapeseed oil. That gives you 50% or a 2:1 were 2 drops equals 1 drop pure.

You can count the drops into a spoon and then take them. You want to put them in your gums or below the tongue to speed up the absorption.

The last RSO he was taking was high THC, about 80% or just runny enough to use the dropper. He was actually placing the dropper in hot water 10 minutes before taking it to make it more runny and taking like 20 drops.

I wouldn't start him on that but try to get up to that, 20 drops of a dropper = 1 ml which is like 1.1 grams.

His son is a dr so he's taking care of the dosing. The last

 

[Human GuineaPig]

I hate not being able to edit.

 

[StoneyK]

Oh ok I found a dispensary here that has a cannatonic co2 extract that has been decardbed.
Is the gum application only for tincures?
I was thinking a few drops on a small cookie then go up from there.

 

[Human GuineaPig]

Well although some people say eating it makes it not work, RSO will just take longer to be absorbed into the bloodstream but will eventually work. A close friend is a dentist and explained the science of taking it through your gums or below the tongue.

My dad had a heart attack last year and was given medication to place under his tongue cause its fast acting. If you swallow it and you have a slow digestive system it can take a while.

I wish I could get my hands on some cannatonic, that's the sort of stuff that would help me but alas its not legal here yet.

 

[StoneyK]

Sounds good if he complains I will ask if hed rather taste some shit for a few minutes or go thru chemo... I imagine the taste is a small price to pay

 

[Human GuineaPig]

At a cooking supply place I bought some cinnamon extract cause oil is kinda spicy so it works well to improve the flavor a bit. Oil tastes kinda like big red but cut with grapeseed oil. Cut with olive oil it might not taste that great.

Just remember cinnamon extract is super concentrated; for a 30 ml dropper add like 0.1 ml.

 

[StoneyK]

Thank you so much for all the info! I sure hope this helps my friend to feel better poor guy is hurtin so bad kills me to see it.

 

[lumberjack.mr]

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I have pain like you wouldn't believe ! And there isn't a bud anywhere to be found !

 

[Human GuineaPig]

I mixed 1 ml of high CBD/CBN oil with 30 ml of almond oil (like 3-4%) and he's using it on his skin for a surgery he had on his knee and its working really well. He gave some to his mom who has back pain and it worked for her too.

 

[lumberjack.mr]

life isn't always fair is it ? .... Mike

 

[ghostmade]

also look into sprouts/micro greens.broccoli sprouts,pea,sunflower(black/oil type),wheat grass juice.go slow,don't over whelm him with change.he might reject these heathy(possibly life "extending" diet choices.real deal maple syrup with them pancakes youtube cancer cures.lol now but you might be thanking the interwebs. might not stop/cure the cancer but you MIGHT get months and years added to your life.shit it would be worth a day.i also find its best to tell yourself,after you past the projected Date Of Death (god willing)(or who ever you know)lol.,.this day,is my cup overflowing,

 

[lumberjack.mr]

Those are some very profound words, and reason to try. I am terminal, I know my children will not live another day in their lives, that I am not sick- not that that is very different from my two younger daughter's life's thus far, but it is a very hard realization. I long for the days when I was 220lb.semi-pro body builder, when walking up to a stack of weights was my high, and benching 400+ was a normal day. Now, I have a hard walking to the mailbox and back without having to stop and get my bearings..
I have been fighting this disease for over 10 years now- 4 on dialysis. I am disqualified from transplant due to the re-occurrence rate of the disease. In Europe, I have heard of technology using stem cell research, a method of tricking the body into literally growing repair tissue inside the kidney, like the liver or lungs. They have in Holland, discovered a way to grow vein- fistula, out of the body's own cells, so there is -0- rejection. Not available in the US. ... Maybe its population control ?
in the mean time- this is my daily yoke..; https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd...._=1422004284_0e8b274ecda3c552513ca4c2e843c1f0

 

[RonSmooth]

Those are some very profound words, and reason to try. I am terminal, I know my children will not live another day in their lives, that I am not sick- not that that is very different from my two younger daughter's life's thus far, but it is a very hard realization. I long for the days when I was 220lb.semi-pro body builder, when walking up to a stack of weights was my high, and benching 400+ was a normal day. Now, I have a hard walking to the mailbox and back without having to stop and get my bearings..
I have been fighting this disease for over 10 years now- 4 on dialysis. I am disqualified from transplant due to the re-occurrence rate of the disease. In Europe, I have heard of technology using stem cell research, a method of tricking the body into literally growing repair tissue inside the kidney, like the liver or lungs. They have in Holland, discovered a way to grow vein- fistula, out of the body's own cells, so there is -0- rejection. Not available in the US. ... Maybe its population control ?
in the mean time- this is my daily yoke..; https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd...._=1422004284_0e8b274ecda3c552513ca4c2e843c1f0

Is growing your own out of the question?

If you got on the phone and started calling caregivers, dispensaries, medical mj advocates in states with a more liberal inclination, I'd bet someone would help you out or refer you to someone local.

It may take some time. Sending meds to someone is a felony. A dispensary, caregiver could lose everything. You'll have to build some trust but once you do, you won't have trouble finding someone to help you out.

Nobody is going to advertise committing a felony or offer a stranger anything over the internet. At least not anybody smart. People will hep out a person in need, especially a terminal or quality of life case.


Good luck.

 

[CCMI]

Google "Dennis Hill cancer research biochemist cured his own cancer with cannabis oil." He had stage 4 prostate cancer. One of the things he mentioned is that he put the oil in a capsule and then applied it rectally. Below is a link to an interview he did which is on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWklpCxg2jc

 

[aridbud]

Too, I found from another esteemed member here (sammyz2646) ....JUICE fresh contents if you can find them, even fan leaves!! Blend it or juice it w/ other fruits/veggies....hard to taste the cannabis, nutrients galore lost in vapoing, tinctures. Look up his info. Also, root ball thread.

I was amazed at pain disapating, and you don't get high.

Granted, I do not have cancer, but have dealt with chronic pain for more than 25 years.

PM me...or look on the site here. Can guide you from my limited, albeit, positive results.