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SPG.

You didnt post Twice did you?? Really hope this isnt a MOD game too "OFF" me!?

Maybe the Venlafaxine do work.. :D


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DAT

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crutch = porn ?

you have to get peoples attention b4 you can get insight from them.

u pose a very profound yet annoying question.

I tried Effexor and I had to go to the emergency room because I felt like I couldn't process brain thoughts at all. It was so fuckin scary. The doctors don't give a fuck what the anti depr axiety med they give you is. I have gotten, :" if this one doesn't work there are lots of others you can try"
I most recently tried Prozac. I was emotionless. It was scary , I felt suicidal and dead like a zombie.
 
S

SPG.

I was Initally prescribed Prozac when i First Complained of depression-i.e for and my Circumstances me zilch motivation and Enthusiasm. The Stuff drove me Nuts!
Mum use to say.."that Bloody Eily Lilly.."

Having problems uploading pics i'll get there tho.
 
S

SPG.

Not sure but i feel pretty confident at a guess in saying "EFFEXOR" dont Only have Venlafaxine in there drug line !
 

eskimo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzM1rwSL-Nw

From may point of view i would say quit everithing you dont need drugs or alcohol to overcome... sure you can use them for some time (as they will use you for the same time ) , but its also importand to let them go again, clearnes is the best state of mind to handel all this you going through...

all the best from here to there
 
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Ph-patrol

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Working to get off the drugs should be a focus. Taking steps in wellness should be a goals.
Eating healthy, exercise,positive relationships ,no drinking, Yoga ,meditation , 20 minutes direct sunlight and out door activity are just scrape the surface.
Just being proactive and not relying on drugs to be happy.
I understand that some days are tuff, but when you have days were you feel ok push yourself to doing the right things for yourself.

I hope this finds you all well.
 

aridbud

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Depending on brain chemistry, sometimes it's warranted to stay on the meds. Would you tell a diabetic not to take insulin or quit taking their medication?

It's a complex body chemistry. The brain is no different.

And it sometimes takes a while to become regulated on certain medications. Yes, exercise, eating healthily, not drinking alcohol, yoga...those all DO help, but some folks need medication having a brain chemical imbalance. Sadly, a lot of Dr.s (I can only speak to those I know in the USA) are often pursuaded by pharmaceutical reps as far as the "magic bullet" for mental disorders, anti-depression being #1 Rx'd drug in America, followed by high cholesterol Rx.

And sadly, pharmaceutical companies have devised questionaires such that those healthy people feeling a little 'blue', the Dr. says, "AH HA!I'd better prescribe this for you."

Some people function better on meds. Others do not respond well to them.
 

DAT

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how are u sopposed to do all those things all the time to make you stay healthy and not cause serious anxiety. I use to be good at those things, but as I get older I don't like doing them anymore because I think most of them are a waist of time. Mediation has now caused me insomnia, yoga pulls my muscles and hurts my arthritic joints. how am I sopposed to eat all the expensive good food when im poor?
I go to the cheapo food stores and buy the good food.. (lettuce, fruits and veggies) and they get me sick cuz they are coated with extra pesticides, perseravatives or chemicals.
LOL~ I sware u cant fuckin win these days... im not going to live my last years uptight about staying healthy when I need to be happy and not stressed out like society tries to make me.
I recommend getting off your anti depress anxiety meds if they don't start working after 3 weeks MAX.. screw what the dr says.. I tried to stay on it for the supposed 6 weeks recommended to it start.. NO IT never did ..... made me feel sicker as time went on. The only 1 that ever worked started working the first week. Don't torture yourself.
 

Ph-patrol

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Depending on brain chemistry, sometimes it's warranted to stay on the meds. Would you tell a diabetic not to take insulin or quit taking their medication?

It's a complex body chemistry. The brain is no different.

And it sometimes takes a while to become regulated on certain medications. Yes, exercise, eating healthily, not drinking alcohol, yoga...those all DO help, but some folks need medication having a brain chemical imbalance. Sadly, a lot of Dr.s (I can only speak to those I know in the USA) are often pursuaded by pharmaceutical reps as far as the "magic bullet" for mental disorders, anti-depression being #1 Rx'd drug in America, followed by high cholesterol Rx.



And sadly, pharmaceutical companies have devised questionaires such that those healthy people feeling a little 'blue', the Dr. says, "AH HA!I'd better prescribe this for you."

Some people function better on meds. Others do not respond well to them.


I agree with every thing you said. I just think doctors over prescribe and patents need to do way more than just take meds.
Some one could have something as simple as a food allergy that's causing massive mood swings.
What I was trying to convey was people should try to get off these drugs or minimize how many different drugs and dosage amounts. ALLWAYS with the support of your doctor.:biggrin:
Be proactive in your own care.

Just not hearing any food, exercise , etc talk.
 
S

SPG.

Antidepressants can Sometimes Bring you to a mental/Physical? "well-being" Level where your Thoughts are Much more Positive and you can make real Progress with your Life
Best remember what you have said/thought at that time tho because when/if your down again "clouds"?! may seem to be in the way and g..I found "less is more" and to write things down is a great help.
Growing Weed,planning and all you can do/achieve in MJ breeding [Being the Boss!] was very Positive for me Often More than Smoking the Herb itself-But oh No dont take the Herb away from me i found!!
 

DAT

Member
da herb do it 4 me too mate..ta grow it and to make art of it. Cindy99 and SLH porkin on the beef.
ONE LOVE:plant grow:
 
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Red Berry

da herb do it 4 me too mate..ta grow it and to make art of it. Cindy99 and SLH porkin on the beef.
ONE LOVE:plant grow:View Image View Image View Image


lol you're not allowed to say one love after doing that thing you did with schrews pics :biggrin: you're allowed to say big love. and the 10-12 hr art habit dilutes the big love thing more then normal jobs do where you have free time to think about other stuff while you wait to work . not much waiting to work when it comes to art :ying:
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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Your absolutely correct HempKat.. that's why I am trying to distance myself from the mj sites. I have used them as a crutch my entire mj gardening hobby . I just don't know how to relate like I used to. Your so right, so right.. thanks for breaking it down and doing a reality check with me. I appreciate your time! and I guess I expected a little more insight then is capable from that particular audience. Thank you so much for taking the time out to help me, I REALLY appreciate iT!

No problem, just kind of relax about the whole gardening thing. What I mean by that is people have a tendency to elevate their plants to being more then just plants because of what the harvest does for them. They aren't more though, they're just plants and growing plants isn't really that difficult until you get on a commercial level.
 

HempKat

Just A Simple Old Dirt Farmer
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Hempkat is right but don't loose faith in people being helpful.

I like this site for solving problems just as they start.
http://www.growweedeasy.com/home

Yeah I don't mean to push you towards the opposite extreme. I'm just saying don't pin all your hopes and dreams on any one person or particular group of people. Associate with people as necessary towards making your hopes and dreams come true but remember at the end of the day you got to take responsibility for everything you do in your life. Also when using people for help don't let their inaction or their silence become an answer. In other words, you were upset with this other group not because they told you something that was wrong but rather because they didn't tell you something was wrong and therefore you assumed their silence meant the height of you light was correct. Most of the time silence either means nobody knows the answer or they don't realize a question is being asked.
 

eskimo

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how are u sopposed to do all those things all the time to make you stay healthy and not cause serious anxiety. I use to be good at those things, but as I get older I don't like doing them anymore because I think most of them are a waist of time. Mediation has now caused me insomnia, yoga pulls my muscles and hurts my arthritic joints. how am I sopposed to eat all the expensive good food when im poor?
I go to the cheapo food stores and buy the good food.. (lettuce, fruits and veggies) and they get me sick cuz they are coated with extra pesticides, perseravatives or chemicals.
LOL~ I sware u cant fuckin win these days... im not going to live my last years uptight about staying healthy when I need to be happy and not stressed out like society tries to make me.
I recommend getting off your anti depress anxiety meds if they don't start working after 3 weeks MAX.. screw what the dr says.. I tried to stay on it for the supposed 6 weeks recommended to it start.. NO IT never did ..... made me feel sicker as time went on. The only 1 that ever worked started working the first week. Don't torture yourself.

maybe you overdid on yoga and meditation, everything needs its balance so this things aswell to much could cause things you dont want :ying:
i mean i dont know how you practising meditation as for yoga i know from my expiriance the basic is the breathing if you feel your breath and you can breath in and out confortable and deep wile your making your yoga, you feel nice and well and confortable aswell in the positions ...like you could hang on there 4ever without pushing it then its good, but if you start pushing it and overdo it to the point its hurting and you want to get there and come on you can do this and that ....yoga is not a boot camp like many classes believe erroneously, its about feeling good not be in a compatision of how fast someone can get to the scorpion... do it step by step :)
 

LEF

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all this new age stuff pushes me a little bit away

it's mostly women who go along with it

you go into one of their health stores and you feel like they are hawking over you

I think health and beauty industry is women's industry, being a bit irrational, they go along with the quack medicine

us men, are not meant for health, nor are we meant to feel, or live long

just work work work

we are second class citizen, but now women are taking over, so we are not needed much anymore

except for maybe some sperm somewhere, but they got donors for that, and they got a lot

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Being the physically weaker sex they have evolved to be manipulative, malicious, vile, hypocritical,
fear-driven, money-driven, accusational and much more as ways of coping. Now that women have attained power they have formed powerful lobby groups inside Academia and the Legal Field and they are trying to redefine society. They have formed strong alliances with Gay/Lesbian groups and are the chief proponents of Multiculturalism and Political Correctness. Their goal is to dethrone the White Heterosexual Jewish/Christian Male from his positions of power in Science, Religion, Finance, Politics, Military. Beware of Leftist groups and movements. Women are almost always behind them. A large percentage of women naturally hate men. They view men as wallets and as a necessary inconvenience for reaching their aim in life which is to raise a child.
 

Ph-patrol

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Don't loose faith in people being helpful http://www.growweedeasy.com/home.

Its simple Hempkat, You should not loose faith in people. That's it, no more no less. I think you could be over thinking it.

Some times the most profound statement are said simply. You seemed to have received a larger message in such a succinct statement.
My words come from a place of positivity. Especially on this particular tread.

Live well People or well living
 

eskimo

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Being the physically weaker sex they have evolved to be manipulative, malicious, vile, hypocritical,
fear-driven, money-driven, accusational and much more as ways of coping. Now that women have attained power they have formed powerful lobby groups inside Academia and the Legal Field and they are trying to redefine society. They have formed strong alliances with Gay/Lesbian groups and are the chief proponents of Multiculturalism and Political Correctness. Their goal is to dethrone the White Heterosexual Jewish/Christian Male from his positions of power in Science, Religion, Finance, Politics, Military. Beware of Leftist groups and movements. Women are almost always behind them. A large percentage of women naturally hate men. They view men as wallets and as a necessary inconvenience for reaching their aim in life which is to raise a child.

sure they are behind or involwed...its about equality.... there hawe the same rights in this groups thats why... women are like men some like to be like this and some like to be like that some like to be chefs and some like to obey, like in the song "Sweet dreams " lol more or less
"Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused"

..and some of us human whant to be equal ...one love mate , wheres the point we are all now... yea all different in some ways...

and whats your point aboit men dont hawe feelings and dont care about health ...i mean if you dont thats fine with me but do not slept from you on others


by the way where the fuck dose your coment about women and leftis stick to the depresion thread here ??
 
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