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Spice craze in Russia

purple_man

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wtf?

seems like, all the "leftover" contingents of spice went to russia after europe banned it,
so much to the "confiscated and destroyed" stories...

blessss
 

SativaBreather

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are you in the uk gaius?
we had this shit here years ago
I tried it cos my mate had a shop that sold it and people were actually coming in saying it was good and they were happy to buy it in the absence of real weed.
I thought it was total shit, didnt work on me at all and certainly didnt do what I've seen it doing to the russians
 

stoned-trout

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it sold here well to military personell in san diego..for a while they couldn't keep it on the shelves it sold so fast...them guys in china kept changing the formulas staying one step ahead..i got real weed and have/had no interest... it was very easy to buy from china and make up your own batches ..making every purchases for end user having diff levels..no consistency...its still around in san diego but you got to know and ask as its not in the open like it used to be..
 

Tudo

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Will probably find out in 20 years from now that the scumbag dea financed the manufacture and sale of this crap all over the world
 

gaiusmarius

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so whats the herb they use? is it sprayed with the chemicals to make it work, or is it the combo of the herbs and the chems? the Russian stuff seems to be highly addictive, i wonder if it's the same shit as in the States?
 

Calimed

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I thought the spice that was available in the states was mostly based on JWH compounds, not MDMB /N/-Bz F as listed in the article.
 

gaiusmarius

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i hate that it looks like herbs like that, makes it seem harmless, everyone knows herbs are good for you right? anyway, not sure this topic is really suitable, i only posted it up because of the way it looks a bit like weed.
 

m314

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Each synthetic cannabinoid has its own feeling and its own style. Just like natural cannabinoids, only the synthetics span a much wider range of effects. Some are beautiful, like JWH-018. That one (taken orally) feels like it's better than the best sativa I've ever had. The only downside is the short duration.

Others I've tried have been good to lesser degrees. I'm excited about the brave new world of cannabinoids out there to be discovered and experimented with. Some of them (like JWH-018) are bound to have effects that are superior to anything we can grow in plants
 

bombadil.360

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Some of them (like JWH-018) are bound to have effects that are superior to anything we can grow in plants


doubt it.

JWH-018 is a very simple synthesis and only offers subtle analgesic properties, less effective than ibuprofen.

on the other hand, cannabis is a mixture of highly complex substances interacting with one another on many levels and which offer a true and tested medical effect and better analgesic properties.

JWH-018 has no terpene profile for example, etc... etc... etc...
 

stoned-trout

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I don't trust clandestine Chinese labs call me crazy...the guy I knew ordered shit direct from em and made his own batches. he had everything .. some stuff even got applied to salvia. they came out with new shit weekly it seemed...mad scientists...
 

Betterhaff

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The bad part about that stuff is you didn’t really know what you’re getting, they just kept switching up the formula. Before it was banned here you could easily get it and a lot of people were using it because of ease of availability and cost. Also a lot of people that were prone to testing were using it because it didn’t show up in the tests, ie probationers, workers, athletes, etc. Bad sh*t.
 

blastfrompast

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Man, there are some messed up clips on Youtube with bad K2 trips...

I used to like to grow and consume mushrooms, hell even grew salvia to quid...but these bad trips just look bad...nothing pleasant
 
some of these synthetic noids are very addictive and can cause people to have severe adverse reactions. they seem more akin to crack than weed
 
if your going to use this shit you might as well be smoking crack laced with pcp. and around here pcp is making a comeback, because I guess its easyier to source than all the previously banned cannabinoids that everyone seems to want. now dealers are just +pushing pcp as spice or as its known around here pope. poupori + dope =pope
 

stoned-trout

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if you find yourself eating someones face off when you get the munchies,you might be getting your drugs from china lol
 

stoned-trout

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aint a fan of blunts either.. I don't want tobacco and weed mixed...huge joints are however acceptable
 

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