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Chunkypigs

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http://www.modbee.com/2014/10/03/3573183/modesto-police-bust-type-of-pot.html

Following up on an anonymous tip, officers of the Modesto Narcotics Enforcement Team busted an expensive and hazardous type of drug lab not found in the city before. Three people were arrested, and two children were found to be living at the residence.

MNET investigators Wednesday went to a residence in the 1800 block of Fairfax Avenue, off Rose Avenue just north of Briggsmore. There they found a sophisticated marijuana extraction lab, with a device more than 9 feet tall used to extract THC, the psychoactive substance in pot, Modesto police spokeswoman Heather Graves said in a news release Friday.

“The suspects were actually trying to strip the chemical known as ‘CBD’ from the plants, another element of marijuana,” Graves said. “CBD marijuana is currently being researched by GW Pharmaceuticals for possible relief for seizures and other neurological disorders.”

The lab found at the residence is believed to be the first of its kind in California, Graves said. It is a cold conversion lab estimated to have cost more than $25,000 for the equipment alone. The system operates under compressed air and uses liquid butane to strip the THC and CBD from the marijuana, the news release said.

Also in the residence, agents found two handguns, as well as 184 pounds of processed marijuana in garbage bags on the garage floor. Also in the garage were more than 250 cans of butane. A Sacramento-based company was called in to disassemble the lab.

Two children living at the residence were in a dangerous situation, Graves said, because such labs are extremely susceptible to explosion.

Jeremy Ferguson, 29, was arrested on suspicion of manufacturing a controlled substance and possession of marijuana for sale.

Wilson Vazquez, 27, was arrested on suspicion of manufacturing a controlled substance, possession of marijuana for sale, felony child endangerment and possession of a loaded firearm.

Natalie Dearma, 28, was arrested on suspicion of felony child endangerment.

Graves called the extraction device a “pot rocket” capable of causing serious injury and damage to the house because the operators were using a large amount of butane in a garage that had an open flame coming from the hot water heater.


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Chonkski

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Such an embarrassing comment.

"CBD is an untested concoction made by drug dealers with guns. Are you telling you me you trust them to make something you would give to your child? Open a window."

Some people... This really has me aggravated right now.

What is sad, is the masses still believe what ever the shiny computer/tv screen spit out.

We live in such a kooky world, and sometimes I feel it's only just begun..................
 

SkyHighLer

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No forced ventilation? Were they actually extracting with a lit water heater? If so, just slightly more sophisticated greedy BHOtards.
 

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jdee

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I'm into the "DON'T BLOW UP YOUR CHILDREN" movement the police are promoting, I don't see the problem here.
 

Chonkski

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I'm into the "DON'T BLOW UP YOUR CHILDREN" movement the police are promoting, I don't see the problem here.

Most definitely, and agreed. I was just very upset at the uneducated comments.

Usually the comments are what pick up my spirits after reading about another irresponsible bhotard killing our dream of proper safety. Or another case of greed, leading to a big bust.

Can't help but feel uncomfortable in times like these. Although, the good in this industry is just about the only thing I have true passion for these daze.

As you can probably tell, I've had a lot on my mind.
 

SkyHighLer

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wow, so are the cops that go to hempcon and the cannabis cup are blind because I swear they see 10ft extractors there all day... Do you think it's the fact that these guys are using closed loop or the fact that they're using a closed loop in their garage?

Having others in the house that are not involved in the extraction process is wrong from the get go...

Using an apartment or urban private residence is disrespectful to the neighbors, if you get caught, try explaining it to a jury of your peers...

As to garages specifically, unless you've got a doorway entrance, ventilating it properly is nearly impossible. One fan in one window isn't going to provide enough flow, but three $20 box fans lashed together and placed in a doorway with a baffle will do the job. The garage door can then be almost closed, and if there's a leak the butane will be pushed out the bottom. This requires that all the air blown in by the fans exit via the garage door, the garage needs to be air tight except for the door with the fans and the garage door. I'd keep the fans at full speed whenever the extraction apparatus is pressurized. The fans themselves are spark free, but the speed control switches are not, which is no problem if the fans are already running and you incur a massive butane containment failure.

Here's a couple of pics of the fan configuration I'm referring to, just imagine they're occupying the side door of a garage...
 

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Permacultuure

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Sorry Sky but that looks really ghetto. Setting up proper ventilation is fairly easy. True explosion proof fans are not outrageously expensive. Which I feel should be used even when trying to create a positive pressure situation like you've designed here. Not to mention garages usually have water heaters, heat pump, main panels ect. I feel a pop up car port is the best way to do it if your operating on a budget.

I don't think most garages are very easily converted into a sealed room which seems quite crucial for this proposed exhaust set up..
 

Chonkski

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May we discuss some suggestions on a proper route on finding a nice establishment to set up for extraction?

Rent industrial warehouse space privately? This is what I've been looking into, because a lot of the prices are cheap. Around 600-850$ a month.
 

Gray Wolf

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It shows how far behind the times Modesto police department is, believing that is the first BHOgart in CA!

As noted, a bad extraction location and children present, so no sympathy. Glad no one was hurt!

Because they are closed loop, on the outside it may appear safe, but shit does go wrong given enough time and you can still end up with an explosive situation looking for an ignition source.

It is possible to ventillate an electrostatic free room with sufficient air flow, so that it is safe enough for a fire marshal to bless, but NFPA standards make it clear that it won't be in a private home, or adjacent to a private home.

NFPA standards outlines what is necessary to please the fire marshal chapter and verse. I asked our local fire marshal to help me refine the their concerns, so that CENTA could publish that information as an industrial standard, but he said he would have to clear it with the city attorney first and of course there has been no reply.............................................

http://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/document-information-pages

Start with 30,36,45,55, 56, 58, 59A, 67, 69, etc ...................................
 
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JointOperation

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ya.. lol. because we can trust the doctors that get our kids hooked up amphetamines lol..

most kids are hyperactive because the food they eat.. MSG.. Gluten.. preservatives and DYES.. can cause hyperactivity.. and all sorts of shit.. all the younger kids in america are getting medicated for.. isnt that WIERD.. and the DOCTORS ARE BULLSHIT ARTISTS..

they will demonize Cannabis. until its LEGAL.. or until big pharma TAKES OVER.. then it iwll be .. this NEW DRUG IS A MIRACLE DRUG THAT SAVES CANCER PATIENTS.. and EPILEPTIC CHILDREN.

but until then.. its a dangerous new drug.. thats like CRACK.
 

SkyHighLer

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Sorry Sky but that looks really ghetto. Setting up proper ventilation is fairly easy. True explosion proof fans are not outrageously expensive. Which I feel should be used even when trying to create a positive pressure situation like you've designed here. Not to mention garages usually have water heaters, heat pump, main panels ect. I feel a pop up car port is the best way to do it if your operating on a budget.

I don't think most garages are very easily converted into a sealed room which seems quite crucial for this proposed exhaust set up..

Yep, using a garage attached to a dwelling is far from the simple safety of setting up an outdoor extraction area, but the garage is just too tempting, especially when it's cold and windy outside for common sense to prevail. How many of the CLS purchased this last year are going to set up professionally indoors (to meet fire marshal approval,) or are run outside during the winter? Since the garage scenario is prevalent and ongoing, I thought a couple of pictures of just how cheap and easy it is to take the danger down many notches might save some disasters from making the news.

Yep, lot of ignition buggers in most garages... As to the garage having to be sealed tight for a positive ventilation system to work, it doesn't really have to be air tight, the flow of air will exit via the opening with the least resistance, i.e. the partially opened garage door.
 

Permacultuure

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All very true.....the progression to regulation has begun. I see a lot of money being thrown around at high end ovens and vac pumps, yet no one wants to spend the money to operate in a safe environment, for them or their neighbors. Maybe if we make safety as trendy as AI has become we might get somewhere. #AIfam_SafetyThird
 

pharmco

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ya.. lol. because we can trust the doctors that get our kids hooked up amphetamines lol..

most kids are hyperactive because the food they eat.. MSG.. Gluten.. preservatives and DYES.. can cause hyperactivity.. and all sorts of shit.. all the younger kids in america are getting medicated for.. isnt that WIERD.. and the DOCTORS ARE BULLSHIT ARTISTS..

they will demonize Cannabis. until its LEGAL.. or until big pharma TAKES OVER.. then it iwll be .. this NEW DRUG IS A MIRACLE DRUG THAT SAVES CANCER PATIENTS.. and EPILEPTIC CHILDREN.

but until then.. its a dangerous new drug.. thats like CRACK.

Lmao, I season my soups with msg. :ying:
 
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