Never Say Never
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sick game for sure, I really wasn't expecting perez to do anything but strike out, he seemed like he was trying too hard all night I'm rooting for the royals to go the distance now! lol cool that they made it into October after a 29 year dry spell
yeah I figured my 2.5 ton house unit would cover 4-5k in summer and 6K in winter. that mini sounds awesome. I prefer the house units after having both, but my minisplit worked great until all the moving it and shit. im gonna get it fixed and have it sitting on standby. the air movement of the big handler just cant be fucked with im glad I got it at the permanent spot. I understand its the intensity, but gotta keep the room cool or it runs to hot. in winter I can prob just vent most of the heat
stoney- yeah it started to purp as I chopped it at 60 days. needed another week to fully purp up
heres another LW nug
that royals game was insane! one of the better ones ive seen in a while and tonight the Giants step up to the plate.....everyone here is a SF Giants fan....literally everyone
when you say your 2.5 ton house unit are you referring to the one that cools your entire place or did you get an additional? been lookin into the different options myself
when you say your 2.5 ton house unit are you referring to the one that cools your entire place or did you get an additional? been lookin into the different options myself
sometimes I forget how much hotter it is up your way...I usually only have to run an a/c from the beginning of june to the end of September down here...lot's of air exchange and lights running at night the rest of the year. what was the ticket on your home unit? I'm building my container to be permanent and transferrable, efficiency is one of my top priorities as is maximizing the limited space(I know a mini would be more favorable for that reason)
White lotus- dedicated unit. I have 2 units for the home and 1 for the room. Move a ton of air. Around page 14-15 there are pics. Of the air handler. It's ductless. Just mounted a box with vents on the end.
Deezy- 3800 installed. The mini I was gonna buy was around 3 n I still was gonna need a longer line set. Installation, and extra 410A. And it moves way less air. When I saw mcgoos ac it was an easy decision. I still have my old mini split. It's only 12kbtu worked for four lights ducted. Was barely enough. Prob install it in my garage to keep me cool while I work on other stuff, transplanting. In the container yes a mini would be very ideal. These house units handlers are very big.
Your gonna kill it in that space with 4 gavitas. What will the indoor dimensions be? Shit u might only need 3 lol
Your gonna kill it in that space with 4 gavitas. What will the indoor dimensions be? Shit u might only need 3 lol
Thanks man! ill have to go back and check it out.....starting to plan for those summers for the new room
Just went back and checked it out! that thing is badass! is that the only piece of equipment to the unit? Or is there a compressor outside like most of the house units? Not much of an HVAC guy, as you can tell
well its 8x20, im going to build a wall at around 15ft and put a pocket door on rollers to save space, that leaves me with a 5x8 space for my veg and rezzies, and everything else...gonna be a bit tight but I should be able to stack my veg/clone area in a 5x4 space(gonna run 2k/2k monthly perpetual to cut down on veg space). 2-4x6 trays stuffed into the back, the other 2 4x6 trays will get put up against the left side so ill have a 2 ft walkway...back left corner is going to be pretty tough to reach but gotta make due(thinking drips or blumats)...still haven't started building..waitin on that chedda lol running 2k in tents for the time being one of which started off gassing and might have to get pulled at 2.5 wks in..all jelly too
White lotus- yeah just like a normal ac unit outside. The unit that is usually in the attic hooked up to the duct Is just in the room. Return on one end and vents on the other. Has a line set coming in and a drain. Drains to a pump on a float switch and pumps to another drain pipe connected to the main drain.
Deez. Sounds awesome and yes extremely crowded. Especially for a big dude. Are u just putting them on the floor? Draining them or just evaporate ?
JW- think he's trying to utilize the lights natural 4x6 spread.
Deez. Sounds awesome and yes extremely crowded. Especially for a big dude. Are u just putting them on the floor? Draining them or just evaporate ?
JW- think he's trying to utilize the lights natural 4x6 spread.
It's incentive to lose a few belt loops. Lol
lol yeah no shit I could afford to lose a few of those and get back to my prime lol workin on quitting the cigs, then the running starts....it'll be a tight one but considering I normally fill a 10x10 from wall to wall with no walkways I'm actually expecting things to be a bit easier in terms of access
jw- insulating the walls & lid with high density foam insulation panels, and thinking about thin sheetrock over that, with blow in in the corregated sections behind the panels(walls are like this '''''\__/'''''\__/'''''\__)
4x6 canopy because, as sir said it's the natural layout of the adjustawings, and all the charts I've seen show it as being the most ideal spread with that hood which has the most even PAR readings across the entire canopy surface. I'll scrog it with 6 plants a light, that's about where I have my best results...although that's not set in stone by any means.
sir- still not watering to runoff, just give em their daily sips although I might end up working some kind of drainage system into it mainly for flushing but yeah trays on the floor.
still debating on open vs sealed...biggest thing for me is I know 100% how to control odor in an open air grow, and im not all that comfortable with my ability to make a sealed room odorless...stealth is of the upmost importance for me, even though the things sitting in between my house and my neighbors that are doin the same thing....wish the same could be said about the neighbors on the other side lol
jw- insulating the walls & lid with high density foam insulation panels, and thinking about thin sheetrock over that, with blow in in the corregated sections behind the panels(walls are like this '''''\__/'''''\__/'''''\__)
4x6 canopy because, as sir said it's the natural layout of the adjustawings, and all the charts I've seen show it as being the most ideal spread with that hood which has the most even PAR readings across the entire canopy surface. I'll scrog it with 6 plants a light, that's about where I have my best results...although that's not set in stone by any means.
sir- still not watering to runoff, just give em their daily sips although I might end up working some kind of drainage system into it mainly for flushing but yeah trays on the floor.
still debating on open vs sealed...biggest thing for me is I know 100% how to control odor in an open air grow, and im not all that comfortable with my ability to make a sealed room odorless...stealth is of the upmost importance for me, even though the things sitting in between my house and my neighbors that are doin the same thing....wish the same could be said about the neighbors on the other side lol
FWIW...a sealed room is much easier to control odor wise...
Use darkroom louvers to provide some passive exchange between veg and flower...
You BLOW into your filter in a sealed room as opposed to pulling through it. Get a BIG filter (150) and a 10" fan and you'll be fine. I'm pretty sure Phillthy was using the same filter for pushing 3 years and still not any smell at all.
Think about it - if ZERO outside air is being exchanged - your chance of having smell escaping is technically LESS than if you were pushing air out and pulling in more...
As long as your minisplit (probably go with minimum 3ton for 4k) is adequate to cool the room - you're set.
dank.Frank
Use darkroom louvers to provide some passive exchange between veg and flower...
You BLOW into your filter in a sealed room as opposed to pulling through it. Get a BIG filter (150) and a 10" fan and you'll be fine. I'm pretty sure Phillthy was using the same filter for pushing 3 years and still not any smell at all.
Think about it - if ZERO outside air is being exchanged - your chance of having smell escaping is technically LESS than if you were pushing air out and pulling in more...
As long as your minisplit (probably go with minimum 3ton for 4k) is adequate to cool the room - you're set.
dank.Frank
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I don't agree with this frank. In a sealed room u are scrubbing which is 66% effective because u aren't passing all the air in the room that has smell thru it every minute or two like u would in an exhaust situation, where depending on the size of ur fan and room u pull all the air thru it making it 99% effective or so exhausting it.
It doesn't matter if u pull air or push it through a filter, just put ur prefilter on the inside of ur carbon filter if ur pushing air through. Any crack in ur room, say the ac can let small leaks out, in a sealed room. Maybe people seal better than me?
Now I run a sealed room, but there is a wall between two rooms. So I run a fan and filter going from the front room thru a hole in the wall to the back room. And on the other side in the back room I run another fan and filter, circulating it back to the front room. This way its sealed, yet acts a bit like exhausting it because of the two separate rooms. Then come winter time, I leave these going, and add another fan filter combo exhausting on a temp controller, so there is always carbon filters running.
I can get up to 4 or 5 years life out of my filters. Just wash the prefilter every 4 to 6 months, and blow out all the dust and small loose carbon out of the filter with air compressor.
As long as ur keeping neg pressure in the grow room, exhaust will always be better at odor control.
Well, guess we have a difference of opinions...
Anyone else want to chime in and show support for one or the other??
dank.Frank
Anyone else want to chime in and show support for one or the other??
dank.Frank
Well u both have points and make a good argument. .... im a creature of habit n would stick with what i know best especially if i had concerns ... theres alot of other expenses to building a sealed room... u gonna need dhuey co2 burner etc these things take space n create heat. and i liked the point its hard to be sure its 100% sealed always one crack that could make ur neighborhood smell like u had it outdoor...
But frank got a valid argument to... if u can be certain u r 100% airtight sealed is better.... the shit is in ur yard so i pick whichever one i felt more comfortable sleeping next to,,
But frank got a valid argument to... if u can be certain u r 100% airtight sealed is better.... the shit is in ur yard so i pick whichever one i felt more comfortable sleeping next to,,
with the last sealed room I built, I did it from the inside out...
frame...set up interior walls ---> run silicone caulking on all seams and corners ---> put in insulation ---> run a single sheet of 6mil black poly around the entire frame ---> put on exterior plywood. Then a single sheet of 6mil poly around the inside and then hang reflectix.
I never had an issue with any air leaking...
dank.Frank
frame...set up interior walls ---> run silicone caulking on all seams and corners ---> put in insulation ---> run a single sheet of 6mil black poly around the entire frame ---> put on exterior plywood. Then a single sheet of 6mil poly around the inside and then hang reflectix.
I never had an issue with any air leaking...
dank.Frank
