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BakedBandit · Sep 23, 2014

Thanks do the responses everyone. I emailed ecogreen to see what theY say and will try it with the tank right side up later. In the pic that sky higher linked you can see the arrows I referred to. hard to tell what they are from that pic, but they can be seen. The black printing on left side. That's really what threw me or a loop. Why would it say that if it has a dip tube like the product description claims? Weird and misleading for sure!

SkyHighLer · Sep 24, 2014

The picture that comes up with the link I provided portrays what I received from them to test. I recall nothing on the packaging and tanks except for ordinary precautions, and posted pictures without close ups because there was nothing worth noting,
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6399025&postcount=215
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6400829&postcount=221

How about a picture?

If Sean has fresh stock in, ask him for his own test results of the old versus the new. He definitely knew this time around all he had to do to cover his derriere was to squirt some in a container, and examine the residue for odor, color, consistency, and weight. I'm too paranoid to take another shipment from them to be honest and to the point, so you guys are on your own.

BakedBandit · Sep 24, 2014

The link from post 40 shows what I'm talking about but I can't zoom in. I'll take a pic next time I get a chance. Hopefully I can figure out how to post it.

superglue · Sep 24, 2014

hey BB
i fell for it also
that graphic on the tank is fubar
just ignore it

fwiw

Gray Wolf · Sep 24, 2014

BakedBandit said:
Well that doesn't make sense because the tank says right on the side "this side up for liquid" with arrows pointing at the bottom of the tank. Not sure why it would say that if it actually has a dip tube? Guess. I'll try it right side up and see what happens... Assuming Grey wolf has used a tank from ecogreen and knows for sure they come w dip tubes? Just don't get why it would be printed on the side to flip it...

I may also have misunderstood or misremembered.

We've downloaded three tanks of R-600 standing upright so far , but I went out and looked at the one older empty, and the latest new batch, and none made a mention of a dip tube, and both were marked to decant as if it did not.

There was not enough left in the empty to tell what position it spit in and when I cracked an upright full tank, it vented liquid.

The way we download, a Terpenator will recover it regardless of whether it was the tanks liquid or vapor port, but would double distill it from the vapor port and leave the first pass of heavier solids in the original storage tank and the second pass in the Terpenator tank.

I will check with Sean on the dip tube, and also check out a half full tank to see if it still vents liquid in an upright condition.

BakedBandit · Sep 24, 2014

Thanks guys! Hopefully I hear back from ecogreen and they says it has a diptube and apologize for the weird instructions on the side of the tank and say ignore them. Hope this will help someone else down te road not fall for it!

BakedBandit · Sep 24, 2014

Got a response from ecogreen.

You are correct. All of our cylinders are equipped with liquid siphon tubes. The label on the cylinder is incorrect, as you do not need to turn the cylinder upside down to extract the liquid. We had new cylinder labels created for our next shipment so it won't create confusion like this in the future.

-------- Original Message -----
Hi, I recently ordered a 50#n-butane tank from you and it has directions on the side if the tank implying to turn it upside down to get liquid out. I was wondering if this is correct as I assumed it would have a dip tube installed and not need to be inverted?
Can you clarify for me if it does have a dip tube or not? Thanks!

analogcricket · Nov 23, 2014

rumor is their releasing an oilless vac pump rated for r600 in early dec 2014

can anyone confirm this?

theotherone710 · Nov 23, 2014

They need to hurry up and restock their R600 supply!

denvermmj · Nov 26, 2014

not until Dec 2nd I heard^^^

critter1685 · Nov 26, 2014

^ that's just when the boat is allowed to dock. I'm sure it will take longer to start shipping

BakedBandit · Dec 10, 2014

Anyone have experience purging oil made w n butane? Will the temp be the same or higher than with regular 5x canned tane? First couple attempts seem I need higher temps so far, just wondering if this is normal?

Gray Wolf · Dec 10, 2014

BakedBandit said:
Anyone have experience purging oil made w n butane? Will the temp be the same or higher than with regular 5x canned tane? First couple attempts seem I need higher temps so far, just wondering if this is normal?

Try 115F at -29.5" Hg.

Oil Crisis · Mar 19, 2015

I ordered their 70/30 butane/propane blend.. Anyone have any experience with this blend?

snake11 · Mar 20, 2015

Oil Crisis said:
I ordered their 70/30 butane/propane blend.. Anyone have any experience with this blend?

Be careful....lots of folks have had their product ruined by ecogreen gas.

Gray Wolf · Mar 20, 2015

Oil Crisis said:
I ordered their 70/30 butane/propane blend.. Anyone have any experience with this blend?

It was a lot of 70/30 blend that was the problem. Ostensibly the current lot doesn't reflect the same problems with residuals in the propane.

I first distill all butane, regardless of source.

snake11 · Mar 20, 2015

Gray Wolf said:
It was a lot of 70/30 blend that was the problem. Ostensibly the current lot doesn't reflect the same problems with residuals in the propane.

I first distill all butane, regardless of source.

It was also the pure propane. Regardless ecogreen screwed over many customers just to fatten their wallet. We as a community should not support bad companies like this.

youareaniceguy · Mar 20, 2015

Gray Wolf said:
It was a lot of 70/30 blend that was the problem. Ostensibly the current lot doesn't reflect the same problems with residuals in the propane.

Ostensibly is a great word to use in this case, fits the situation perfectly. Nobody I know in real life that actually distills their solvents thinks that ecogreen has cleaned up their act or solvents satisfactorily.

Do not waste your time on any lot of ecogreen. Cheaper, cleaner and more honest sources are available.

SkyHighLer · Mar 20, 2015

snake11 said:
Be careful....lots of folks have had their product ruined by ecogreen gas.

snake11 said:
It was also the pure propane. Regardless ecogreen screwed over many customers just to fatten their wallet. We as a community should not support bad companies like this.

youareaniceguy said:
Ostensibly is a great word to use in this case, fits the situation perfectly. Nobody I know in real life that actually distills their solvents thinks that ecogreen has cleaned up their act or solvents satisfactorily.

Do not waste your time on any lot of ecogreen. Cheaper, cleaner and more honest sources are available.

Imo Ecogreen is hardly any worse than the rest of the butane suppliers, they all refuse to actually do any real investigating of the non-volatile residue (Mystery Oil) in their products.

Sean at Ecogreen is depending on the only lab known to attempt third party lab analysis, Specialty Analytical. I tested his first lot of butane and propane using my simple and accurate home test, and asked him to do follow up testing on his own using my test, but he didn't, and got himself in the mess he's in now.

In lieu of a third party lab that can produce the results of my test, it's all you've got, do it or fail.

The instructions for the simple residual test I came up with is found at the bottom of this post:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=6079491&postcount=1

If you guys don't like me coming off as God concerning this, better me, please.

Sunfire · Mar 20, 2015

I've distilled a few pure n tane tanks from ecogreen. it was all much cleaner that cans.

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