Still continuing with deficiencies on all of my plants after a week in recovery **pic

[AloeRuss]

After original post has gathered 3 pages of response some time ago I wanted to do a fresh one with the new pictures.

I have let the coco dry out a bit. Took about 4 days till I started seeing dried up patches. I watered it again with low base and PH water (pinch of Epsom salt as well)
Last night was the watering time again.
I did 5.8 with 4ml of H&G base and nothing else. But I am still coming short.
Any ideas this time around?

 

[dabass2dark]

Sorry to hear about your plants. Maybe you could try a foliar feeding with a light mix of nutes as a way to get the plant what it needs. I've also heard good things about foliar feeding or watering plants with teas made from worm castings and compost. I hear coco is notorious for holding onto certain nutes like calcium, so upping the cal/mag might be good. Also some hydrogen peroxide in the water might help if the roots needed some more oxygen.

Best of luck, hope they bounce back!

 

[AloeRuss]

Thank u mate.
However, I think I am asking a wrong question here.
The time is not on my side and I have maybe one more day till I have to flip.
Yes. I fucked myself with those 4'' cubes notoriously.
I guess I would like to hear opinions.. Is it worth flipping to bloom or will I have a better results if I will trash this bunch and replace it with youngsters that has been no more then 2 weeks in vegge...
This is where the masters come out to weight out the odds (not one of them yet)

 

[Weeded1s]

Can u shoot a pic with hps off plz.

 

[AloeRuss]

Yeah. Give me 30 min.

 

[CloudyAmberDay]

Is it worth flipping to bloom or will I have a better results if I will trash this bunch and replace it with youngsters that has been no more then 2 weeks in vegge...
This is where the masters come out to weight out the odds (not one of them yet)

I'm no master but if I was you I would bloom the healthiest ones and chuck the sick ones.

It would be interesting to see what others say as you have a time constraint. I've never bloomed a sickling (I had auto's who were in bad shape in veg state, and did shit in bloom)

I would much rather bloom healthy ones vs sick ones - seems like the 2 week advantage on the sick ones is contradicted by recovery time and continued ill health.

I think blooming those might be a continuing headache for you...

Wish you the best Aloe!!

 

[AloeRuss]

That's why I brought the question if I should just bloom 2 week old ones for better end result.
They are just about 5 inches long but healthy.
I really could use some opinions here mates.

 

[AloeRuss]

I think I just did the smartest thing I can ever do. I just went ahead with bloom. Whatever will be will be. My options are not that great anyway but lesson learned.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

They can come out of it but if ur 2 wk old ones are healthy id go with them as I think ur going to lose more yield by running these sick ones versus possibly vegging ur 2 weeker's a bit longer and using them. If ur sick ones don't come right out of it during the first couple weeks in flower ur probably looking at 50% loss. While vegging another week or 2 on 8 week strains would only cost u 12 to 25%. Just a rough estimate based on what I see. Good luck.

 

[TrinZilla]

Looks like a little nitrogen deficiency mixed with light a little too close. Back the lights off a little, give them some grow and base if that is what you use. It will be OK to use grow in the first week of flower. That coco fiber might not be helping you. Try an organic potting soil something with ocean products in it.

 

[CloudyAmberDay]

"Took about 4 days till I started seeing dried up patches." What are your temps - this seems a bit long.

"Last night was the watering time again.
I did 5.8 with 4ml of H&G base and nothing else."

You will most likely not see a 24 hour improvement on that level of sickness.

I'm hoping this past feed brings them back to life and rejuvenates the heck out of them over the next few days.

Wish you the best of luck

 

[AloeRuss]

Unfortunately I can't rase light any higher.
Miraculous. You are correct in your calc. However, I want to bite the bullet and just go with the ill ones. I want to try a separate magic green foliar feed tomorrow. This should breath some green into them. And just a lot of praying for now.

 

[smokefx]

ive had similar problems before and its not your nutes, the light is too close, or too intense, if you cannot raise the light higher you should instead move the plants away from the light.

what i used to do (if you don't have digital ballasts) is to put the plants under the hps light for a couple hrs then move them away from the light but close to it (not directly under it). it's a real bitch but it works.

im guessing you used to have them under a smaller light before you put them under the hid lightning.

 

[SnowCreature]

a/b 6-8 ml!!! 1.2-1.5ec!
They are still starving and you still haven't fed them.
These plants have no chance! You will just be back asking if there'd a product that can fix them late into bloom

 

[papaduc]

I think I just did the smartest thing I can ever do. I just went ahead with bloom.

No, you just did the worst thing you could do. I don't know what your time restraints are, so maybe you could expand on that. If they're a target you've set out, or if they're a point after which you cannot keep the grow going, are two very different things.

You're doing something very basic very wrong, and you're doing it from the beginning.

Do you have an ec pen and what nutes are you using?

You can solve these problems very easily if you focus on the bare basics of growing. Weed is an easy plant to grow and you really shouldn't be having these problems for this long.

Show us a pictures of the healthier youngsters under normal light.

 

[dabass2dark]

Id still be hopeful with your bloom idea. Ive seen many plants bounce back once they go into flower. Within two weeks of flower they should be back on track. They many not yield as much as healthy plants of course, but at least you'll have some finished flowers sooner. I would also get the next batch going asap in case things still look bad 3 weeks into flower, so your newest veg babies will be that much closer to replace them.

Can't tell from the photos, but I don't see any way to support those ladies for training purposes. If you suspect that it is a light/nutrient ratio imbalance, training the ladies so they platter out instead of growing up vertically, is a way to get them further from the light. I use a combo of bamboo stakes and tomato cages with twist ties to train my girls. You could also use that netting stuff with 4"-6" squares to do a scrog type of thing. Even if you were able to create a slight bend 6-8 inches down the stalk from the top, it would make them further away from the light.

Don't give up, its trials like these that make you a better grower.

 

[stihgnobevoli]

did you ever take pics under natural light? mag def is only thing i can really make out under all that yellow light. just take one out and take a picture of it under light that's not yellow.

 

[AloeRuss]

My time restrains is of a personal nature, papaduc. Something I cannot control right now.
They are actually starting to come around and most of them are much greener then they were 20 hours ago.

Now, with giving what I have in hand, can you elaborate on why it is so wrong to flip them right now and continue feeding them with 1.5 PH'd solution until they are all as healthy as can be?
I am aware that I will not have anything near the result I normally do, but since they seem to get better instead of worth.

I do have an ec pen and I am using House and Garden coco a and b as a base and nothing else for the moment.

 

[AloeRuss]

Here is the leave from one of the worst plant

 

[Budseeker147]

First thing that springs to mind for me some reason is magnese/ magnesium ... I have some rong I don't also haven't a clue it's only on the 1