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New York Could Legalize Recreational Marijuana In 2015

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The state of New York could legalize marijuana for recreational use as early as 2015.
State Sen. Liz Krueger (D) will reintroduce the Marijuana Regulation and Taxation Act during the next legislative session, which begins in January, her office confirmed to The Huffington Post on Monday.
"We're definitely introducing the bill next session," Brad Usher, Krueger's chief of staff, told HuffPost. "We've received a variety of feedback since we first introduced it last December and we're working on amending it, so we're looking to see what we can learn from Colorado and Washington when we reintroduce it."
Krueger's bill would permit the opening of retail marijuana dispensaries, which would be regulated by the State Liquor Authority. The bill would establish an excise tax on all marijuana sales, and adults would legally be able to possess up to two ounces of marijuana and grow up to six marijuana plants at home for personal use. Krueger introduced a similar bill in 2013 that also aimed to legalize the possession, use and sale of limited amounts of recreational marijuana, but the bill never made it out of committee.
Usher said that many of the changes to the measure for reintroduction in 2015 relate to how the tax is structured, as well as clarifying who would be able to work in the state's marijuana industry.
New York is not a referendum state, which means that if next year's measure gets through the legislature and is signed into law, it will immediately go into effect and will not require a vote by New Yorkers. Colorado and Washington, both of which legalized recreational marijuana in 2012, did so through voter-approved ballot measures.
"In some ways, not having a referendum makes it harder," Usher said. "With referendum, you only need 50.1 percent support to win, but getting a bill through to law will probably require broader support to address the risk-averse character of some elected officials."
One such official might be Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D), who has not made it clear whether he would support a bill that legalizes marijuana for recreational use. In January, Cuomo said that Colorado-style legalization in New York is "a nonstarter for me."
Earlier this summer, New York became the 23rd state in the country to legalize medical marijuana. Moreover, the state decriminalized the possession of up to 25 grams of marijuana more than 30 years ago. Even so, New York, and especially New York City, remain plagued by an inordinate number of low-level marijuana arrests.
That's because the decriminalization law passed in 1977 has a loophole: Anyone arrested for "private" possession is issued a violation, while anyone arrested for "public" possession is charged with a criminal misdemeanor. So if -- during one of the hundreds of thousands of stop-and-frisk searches the New York City police perform each year -- an officer asks a person to empty their pockets, and marijuana comes out, the drug is suddenly considered to be "in public view." The officer is then allowed to make an arrest.
Since 2010, New York City has averaged between 30,000 and 50,000 marijuana arrests each year. And during the period between 2002 and 2012, 87 percent of the people arrested for marijuana possession in the city were black or Latino, despite evidence suggesting that whites use marijuana at about the same rate as either group.
So inconsistent is the enforcement of New York's current marijuana laws that a bill attempting to equalize the consequences for all residents of the state was introduced during the last legislative session.
"The real motivation [for Krueger's upcoming bill] came from the disparate impacts of the drug war on different communities, how communities of color -- especially in New York City -- are facing large amounts of marijuana arrests based on these interpretations of existing law," Usher told HuffPost.
"While Krueger doesn't smoke pot and doesn't think anyone else should, she doesn't think the policy of prohibition has been successful in controlling marijuana use, and [thinks] that it should be treated more as a public health issue," Usher went on. "She doesn't think you should drink either, but making alcohol illegal didn't really work, and we should have learned that about marijuana as well."
To date, only Colorado and Washington have legalized cannabis for recreational use. In November, Oregon and Alaska voters will decide if they also want to legalize recreational marijuana for adults.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...uana_n_5825086.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
 

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I'm actually stunned that it is not legal here already!! This super greedy over taxed state is known for being money hungry. the taxes I pay on 3 properties is just astounding. I don't even live near a city. I live in the sticks and continue to pay more taxes than in NYC. Yep I pay more than NYC homeowners do in taxes. I also happen to live in one of the poorest counties in the state.
 

igrowone

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cuomo wont go for it

you got that right
still, just getting a rec bill in the legislative process is a step forward
and if we see some more rec legal states after this election season, who knows?
cuomo won't be here forever
 

Fly by Night

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NEGT1

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you got that right
still, just getting a rec bill in the legislative process is a step forward
and if we see some more rec legal states after this election season, who knows?
cuomo won't be here forever

Yeah, it's another step.
 

dddaver

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After seeing that highly restrictive mmj law they came up with there just over this past summer of 2014, I REALLY have my doubts. Especially in NY, where the politicos need to get paid for ANYTHING to happen. Legalization might mean higher tax base going into the gov't, but it also means not as much of those huge lobbying bucks from the drug companies are going directly into the individual pockets of certain high ranking politicians who control things like that too. Nice gesture I guess, but I think the legalization effort for 2015 legalization is just wasting taxpayer money.
 

FullyMeltedDome

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Yeah,Coumo's a douche,he wont go for it ever.He Legalized Med MJ,but to get it you have to be Terminal.It is only gonna be available through 20 Hospitals and its not in a smokable form,and Patients cant grow for themselves.Deff gonna have to wait til hes outta Office to make any real changes.Peace and Stay Safe,DWW:ying:
 

Treetops

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With both submitting, it will be interesting...and NY could use the money...

our neighborhood corner store may get a lot more popular if New York State Assemblywoman Crystal Peoples-Stokes has her way.

Peoples-Stokes, a Democrat representing Buffalo, introduced a bill to the New York State Assembly last week that would legalize the sale, regulation and taxation of marijuana, which if passed would make New York the third state along with Washington and Colorado to approve recreational marijuana sales.

"It means a tremendous amount for the state of New York," Peoples-Stokes said Monday on "Squawk on the Street." "It will add to our revenue. It will decrease the cost we spend on incarcerating people, in particular, people of color. It will decrease the cost we spend on the courts."

Peoples-Stokes is proposing that New York state adopt a marijuana excise tax that would cost $50 per ounce. After the excise tax, municipalities that decide to allow retail marijuana licenses can tax pot sales up to 5 percent. She contends that authorities can stop underaged buyers—younger than 18, per her recently introduced bill—because they already do so with tobacco products.


Under her proposed bill, New York state residents 18 and older can possess up to 2 ounces of marijuana. The State Liquor Authority would be responsible for regulating licences required for selling, growing and transporting marijuana.

"These deals will not take place on the street any longer," Peoples-Stokes said. "Just like it changed under the prohibition of alcohol, it will change under eliminating prohibition of marijuana as well. People will have to go to a regulated site where they will purchase it. This is something you have to use in the privacy of your own home."



The bid for legal pot in New York faces an uphill battle, however. New York state has yet to allow medical marijuana, let alone retail pot businesses, and a Republican-controlled state Senate has never allowed votes on recent bills that relax marijuana enforcement.

The largely Democratic state Assembly has tried to pass medical marijuana bills three times before. State Sen. Liz Krueger, D-Manhattan, introduced an identical bill legalizing marijuana to the state Senate last week. Peoples-Stokes conceded that past reforms have failed, and that she was trying to "ramp up discussion" with the proposed legislation.



"This needs to move forward," Peoples-Stokes said. "The war on drugs has been lost. The communities that have suffered as a result of this war have been almost decimated."
 

NEGT1

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Politicians go with whatever trends and gains support (both public and backdoor), to think Cuomo is the end all be all on legal cannabis in New York is a bit speculative. Landscapes change, society changes and needs change.

^ good post. 50$ tax/ounce plus 5%, mehhhh. How about 10$/ounce and 5%?
 

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16 years of introducing medical in the assembly pays off with a bud free medical program, I'm not holding my breath for any legalization that would be useful in the next session.

if you can't grow it at home it's not really legal.

Anybody but Cuomo in '14.
 

dddaver

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NY is a referendum state. Voter approval isn't needed there to legalize. But if a law is passed by overwhelming majority, it has to stand and cannot be vetoed. That referendum thing was how they got that crappy no bud/smoking restrictive mmj joke passed. If it had been a popular voted issue, would be WAY different and Cuomo couldn't do shit. As it stands now,they can say they have mmj, but it sucks in reality. But that was exactly why it wasn't put up for vote. The drug companies still will pay them off as it stands now, they win. And that is also why legalization will never fly there, referendum, and Cuomo would never let legalization happen unless him and his cronies were getting paid by the big drug lobbyists, like they do now. The only serious chance for NY ever to go legal is for popular vote and that ain't gonna happen. The rest of all that shit they spout about getting it in 2015 is just lip service and something for them to say and do. They can't be serious.

But go ahead and think all that is not true. Politicians want that. It's a rigged game.
 

dddaver

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if only, this is why we got the crappy MMJ we did in NY
nothing happens without the NY legislature

He's right. I misread my source. Actually NY was totally eliminated from the discussion I read and I assumed. Never mind what I said. I'm just pissed and scratching my head over how they even can call that shit they passed MMJ and how they even got there. It's very convoluted.
 

NEGT1

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He's right. I misread my source. Actually NY was totally eliminated from the discussion I read and I assumed. Never mind what I said. I'm just pissed and scratching my head over how they even can call that shit they passed MMJ and how they even got there. It's very convoluted.

Compassionate Care as an organization is a bit...I don't know what happened and how or why CC let Cuomo use their work as a base and name for his restrictive medical laws.

It's difficult. It's not like CA, or NorCA where growers are a prominent part of the culture. Canna kind of gets swept up with all of the other BS which in turn gives us little to no voice.

I talked to CC a few times via email (mostly to try and help, and later to complain) and they didn't really seem to be on top of it all, so to speak, they could have been working with Cuomo from the beginning, I'm not sure.
 

igrowone

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He's right. I misread my source. Actually NY was totally eliminated from the discussion I read and I assumed. Never mind what I said. I'm just pissed and scratching my head over how they even can call that shit they passed MMJ and how they even got there. It's very convoluted.


it is utter crap, sigh
it's even worse because about 8 years back we almost had a good MMJ
budget crisis fucked that up, sometimes you can't catch a break
Cuomo has presidential ambitions, and this was the politically acceptable MMJ for his needs
 
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