What tane do you not need to distill though ?
EcoGreen?
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depends on what can tane you are using as they all have different amounts of propane. You will notice a substantial difference in color, or at least I did. I prefer a slight blend of propane (10-20%), its just hard to find and keep the "perfect ratio"
Lono
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Slightly darker in my experiences. My most recent IG pic was ntane, clearly no compromise with color there
I think, and I'm no biochemist, just a brofessional, is that the propane pulls some of the mono/sesqui terpenes that butane misses, maybe then lightening up the color? It is a less aggressive solvent so I understand why pho is lighter, but this is my guess on blended gases........
JointOperation
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whats the results on this.. are these worth it or not? and say you don't have a system to distill.. whats the best butane to run if that's the case?
i was all pumped to see i could get a ton of butane.. without having to run can after can.. and now i realize . that this stuff isn't 'ready' for use.. its just basically like canned tane.. needs to be cleaned before tanked up.
i was all pumped to see i could get a ton of butane.. without having to run can after can.. and now i realize . that this stuff isn't 'ready' for use.. its just basically like canned tane.. needs to be cleaned before tanked up.
If your open blasting, which you must be if you can't distill, my first recommendation would be to look into a closed loop setup.
My second suggestion is to utilize the work Skyhighler has done with his best to worst list of canned tane and use that as a guide....not the bro at the head shop.
I've used a lot of this ecogreen product and have seen residue every time, not a ton but always some.
Once Regis distilled 7 lbs maybe less and had HUGE amounts of residue. Ten times what I saw after distilling 24lb's. Its clean, to a degree....We can't explain why Regis saw so much more, shit we were 40 ft from each other, tanks all shipped together, most variables were controlled....yet what I saw in his spool scared me.
If your not distilling your butane your putting nasty shit into the meds. EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE DISTILLED!!
BakedBandit
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So just to be clear, how is the best way to distill? Load from tank it was shipped in into empty tube that is under vacuum, then pump it over to recovery tank? Going from a liquid to a gas is all that's needed? How many times do people do this? One or more? Thanks in advance!
I have a passive Tamisium TE-3000 and I am distilling a butane propane mix right now. This is my first CLS and I can say worth every penny I feel safe with this equipment. No pumps needed I do have a CPS recovery pump and their vacuum pump. I have not even needed to use the recovery pump just don't be in a rush. Set it forget it come back its done.
http://www.tamisiumextractors.com/c...encart/image/cache/data/te3000pkg-275x275.jpg
http://www.tamisiumextractors.com/c...encart/image/cache/data/te3000pkg-275x275.jpg
We inject the liquid butane into a 85F cold trap, from which we recover the butane as a vapor using a refrigerant recovery pump.
We stop recovering when the cold trap pressure reaches 0 gauge, so as to leave behind the Pentane, which boils around 100F at atmospheric pressure (0 gauge).
We then open and clean out the residual oils left in the cold trap with Isopropyl alcohol.
If you have a Terpenator, you can inject the butane into the collection pot for the cold trap, and then clean the pot before using it for extraction.
Thats quite the introductory CLS my man!!
Did you check out SkunkPharm first, the lil terp can be scaled up to the same size, at a fraction of the cost.......
I wanted a passive setup when you add up the cost and the quality I am happy with my purchase. The mass of the tanks helps a lot with passive recovery. I am still going to get a terrp MKV as soon as I can I like the design. I have learned a lot with the Tamisium and if I did it over I might have just got a MKIII just to save the money. I really like not using a recovery pump I like not having scary thoughts in my mind every time I run a batch.
BakedBandit
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Just got a 50 lb tank of n-butane from eco-green. I am trying to distill the n-butane by loading it into my BHOgart extractor as a liquid, and then pumping the resulting vapor into a new mastercool 50lb recovery tank. I cannot get liquid to come out of the n-butane tank into the extractor! After each recovery only a little bit of liquid orgas will come out of the ecogreen tank and go into the extractor at a time. Not sure if liquid is coming out and quickly turning into a gas or if Im just getting gas out of the ecogreen tank? Either way, no liquid makes it down past the sight glass. I have the n-butane tank upside down like it said to do on the tank if you want liquid. I pulled a vacuum to -29 or 30 on both the recovery tank and extractor first.
Is it possible I got the wrong kind of n-butane tank without a siphon tube where the liquid cant be removed? I cant think of what else im doing wrong here. Already loaded the extractor from the ecogreen tank like 10-12 times and the pressure only goes up to 10 before the flow stops and I then recover into the mastercool tank. Guess I really need to weigh the tanks to see how much im getting out of/into them, but just wanted to see if this is normal and if Im doing it right?
Also, greywolf suggested using a cold trap at 85F so I assume putting my collection pot in an 85F bath is what I want? He also said only recover down to 0 psi to get rid of the pentane, which I don't fully understand, but I was recovering down to -22 so I could actually get more into the extractor each time... Is this something I need to worry about with Nbutane? Again, Thanks in advance!
Is it possible I got the wrong kind of n-butane tank without a siphon tube where the liquid cant be removed? I cant think of what else im doing wrong here. Already loaded the extractor from the ecogreen tank like 10-12 times and the pressure only goes up to 10 before the flow stops and I then recover into the mastercool tank. Guess I really need to weigh the tanks to see how much im getting out of/into them, but just wanted to see if this is normal and if Im doing it right?
Also, greywolf suggested using a cold trap at 85F so I assume putting my collection pot in an 85F bath is what I want? He also said only recover down to 0 psi to get rid of the pentane, which I don't fully understand, but I was recovering down to -22 so I could actually get more into the extractor each time... Is this something I need to worry about with Nbutane? Again, Thanks in advance!
The eco green tanks have a dip tube, no need to turn it upside down...I imagine this is where your problem lies....are you using a refer scale? It says "turn me upside down for liquid" ???
Turn it right side up and try again. Make sure our system is vac'd and the new 50# tank is emptied of nitrogen and vac'd as well
It's always helpful to know how much gas your distilling and recovering.
Turn it right side up and try again. Make sure our system is vac'd and the new 50# tank is emptied of nitrogen and vac'd as well
It's always helpful to know how much gas your distilling and recovering.
BakedBandit
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Well that doesn't make sense because the tank says right on the side "this side up for liquid" with arrows pointing at the bottom of the tank. Not sure why it would say that if it actually has a dip tube? Guess. I'll try it right side up and see what happens... Assuming Grey wolf has used a tank from ecogreen and knows for sure they come w dip tubes? Just don't get why it would be printed on the side to flip it...
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I've distiled a couple hundred pounds of eco green, never once did it not have a dip tube, nor did I ever see the instructions you mentioned. It's been a month or two since I've order, thanks to my praxair connect so maybe he's got a new container or new supplier.......
so maybe he's got a new container or new supplier.......
"Cylinder is fitted with an internal liquid siphon dip tube..."
http://ecogreenindustries.net/product/24lb-cylinder/
I see they now also carry tanks of isobutane.
Just try squirting some into an open container as a test would be my suggestion, and contact your supplier.
http://ecogreenindustries.net/product/24lb-cylinder/
I see they now also carry tanks of isobutane.
Just try squirting some into an open container as a test would be my suggestion, and contact your supplier.
