so our outdoor is coming along good this year,with the exception of one or two plants with this weird deformationwe grow in a homemade blend of soil made of Mostly compost and last years dirt, amended with a variety of usual organic.stuff. ph is right around 7.1 a little high I know. Here the pics are
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weird color and twist?
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This is called leaf variegation.
Usually a genetic mutation which effects the chlorophyll levels in the leaf.
I have strains that carry this type of genetic mutations.
If it grew this way, it will be fine.
If it all of a sudden changed, then could be a variation of the Sunn-Hemp mosaic virus.
I think it's genetic, IMO
Usually a genetic mutation which effects the chlorophyll levels in the leaf.
I have strains that carry this type of genetic mutations.
If it grew this way, it will be fine.
If it all of a sudden changed, then could be a variation of the Sunn-Hemp mosaic virus.
I think it's genetic, IMO
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DoubleDDsNuggs
that's pretty weird. hope you get it figured out.
Greeneleaf420
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I concur with the variegated theory. Have had several strains that have exhibited this. Including the white, lucky charms (which is half the white) and coincidentally the white widow X SFV OG that I have going right now. Guess I'll snap a pic in a minute .....
Greeneleaf420
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Although it's usually on maybe only a few leaves. Looks like that plant has lots of leaves exhibiting this trait.... I wouldn't worry about it
Greeneleaf420
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The half yellow leaves and the sideways twist happen on all my OG from time to time when I stress the poor ladies. It goes away when they are healthy comes back if they are pissed.
From my research it is a mosaic virus of some sort.
I have seen it most on chem crosses. I.e. OG sour d and some WiFi to name a few. The plants always turn out fine.
From my research it is a mosaic virus of some sort.
I have seen it most on chem crosses. I.e. OG sour d and some WiFi to name a few. The plants always turn out fine.
Most all studies on TMV + SHMV show that they can't be transmitted through seeds.
Mine pop mutations via seeds.
TMV + SHMV is contagious to other plants.
Mine have shared space with healthy, un-mutated plants and never passed any mutations.
Mine can have cuttings taken from normal or mutated parts of plants.
Mutated cuts grow mutated plant, clean cuts produce clean plants.
My friend experimented with this.
I gave him 2 cuts, 1 clean, 1 mutated.
These 2 plants are from the same mother, Goblin Girl.
http://static.grscty.com/uploads//gallery/album_5163/gallery_726300_5163_19463.jpg
http://static.grscty.com/uploads//gallery/album_5163/gallery_726300_5163_326057.jpg
Mine pop mutations via seeds.
TMV + SHMV is contagious to other plants.
Mine have shared space with healthy, un-mutated plants and never passed any mutations.
Mine can have cuttings taken from normal or mutated parts of plants.
Mutated cuts grow mutated plant, clean cuts produce clean plants.
My friend experimented with this.
I gave him 2 cuts, 1 clean, 1 mutated.
These 2 plants are from the same mother, Goblin Girl.
http://static.grscty.com/uploads//gallery/album_5163/gallery_726300_5163_19463.jpg
http://static.grscty.com/uploads//gallery/album_5163/gallery_726300_5163_326057.jpg
DoomsDay
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I hope you don't mind the hijack, just figured this is a close topic to what I'm experiencing and don't want to clog the forum with new threads...
This has been going on since I have received these plants. Genetics are sour grape and Bubba kush. I am also running green crack, valley og, and blue dream, all of which are not showing these signs yet on the exact same nutrient regimen. Running flora nova series nutrient line and now they are back in 707 soil.
As far as this issue goes, the sour grape and Bubba have both shown these spots and I blamed myself for initially tossing them in a home brewed soil of compost that I also filled a 100 gallon smart pot with and all of those plants died so I knew the soil was trash... that's another story. Anyways, last week I re potted these ladies into 707 soil, my immediate go to, and they started perking up. However, these spots have not gotten better and the twist and spotting has began on new leafs. What is goin on guys?! Ive already gave them a dash more phosphorus initially recognizing a p deficiency, but no dice. Any help is appreciated.
This has been going on since I have received these plants. Genetics are sour grape and Bubba kush. I am also running green crack, valley og, and blue dream, all of which are not showing these signs yet on the exact same nutrient regimen. Running flora nova series nutrient line and now they are back in 707 soil.
As far as this issue goes, the sour grape and Bubba have both shown these spots and I blamed myself for initially tossing them in a home brewed soil of compost that I also filled a 100 gallon smart pot with and all of those plants died so I knew the soil was trash... that's another story. Anyways, last week I re potted these ladies into 707 soil, my immediate go to, and they started perking up. However, these spots have not gotten better and the twist and spotting has began on new leafs. What is goin on guys?! Ive already gave them a dash more phosphorus initially recognizing a p deficiency, but no dice. Any help is appreciated.
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In one week into good soil, your tops look a healthy lime green.
So they are growing out of their funk.
Your last soil f'd up their roots, causing those spots.
They will not recover.
Keep your eyes on the new growth, they should be fine.
Fresh water only, no voodoo remedies, just F them up more.
So they are growing out of their funk.
Your last soil f'd up their roots, causing those spots.
They will not recover.
Keep your eyes on the new growth, they should be fine.
Fresh water only, no voodoo remedies, just F them up more.
your plants look like they are locking out calcium because they a little too high in nitrogen.
i imagine not feeding as they consume through the nutes in the new soil should fix it. it is likely not that you didnt give them calcium as much as it that they are getting more nitrogen in relation to the calcium than they can work with. so maybe a very light foliar of low nitrogen type of calmag product at 1/4 or less strength while they get water only.but dont go overboard theyll need food soon enough.
the other nutrient that can get too high is potassium. that can also cause a calcium lockout but im not familiar with what that would look like.
remember though the calcium deficiency may be from too much food rather than not enough. or the wrong ratio.
i say that based on the dark green color with that sheen and curling under of the leaves. looks like either high nitrogen. over watering can also give this look too. both scenarios lock out calcium. calcium deficiency or lock out can often cause those brown spots. in a smaller plant its easy to get ahead of watering or nitrogen.just an off the cuff answer not sure if im right just what it looks like to me.
In response to the variegation pictures I agree with SG1 that this is a mutation and not a virus. I'm into my 3rd run on a variegated Goblin Girl. This is the original cutting.
She grew up to look like this.
This is her daughter. I have her in my hoop house and she is pushing 6' and has lots of bud sites. I may get a half pound off of her if PM doesn't get her here in the PNW.
So I decided to push the limits of this yellow leaf and chose a branch that was mainly yellow. This turned out to be too much and while the plant hasn't died it is very slow to grow. I've come to the realization that about 30% yellow leaf is the maximum that will give you a viable plants.
You can get bud that look like this too.
These Goblin Girls grow without any problems and provide a good harvest.
She grew up to look like this.
This is her daughter. I have her in my hoop house and she is pushing 6' and has lots of bud sites. I may get a half pound off of her if PM doesn't get her here in the PNW.
So I decided to push the limits of this yellow leaf and chose a branch that was mainly yellow. This turned out to be too much and while the plant hasn't died it is very slow to grow. I've come to the realization that about 30% yellow leaf is the maximum that will give you a viable plants.
You can get bud that look like this too.
These Goblin Girls grow without any problems and provide a good harvest.
We run many weird experiments, all in the search of truth.
And yes, photo evidence is solid.
Debunking myth is what science is all about.
Proof is a necessity, first hand knowledge rules.
Yeah it's no virus. I took some verigated wifi plants into a lab to confirm. Couldn't find any sign of virus of any sort.tested for a pretty wide array. pakalolo Yours look different than my verigated plants, more healthy and way more pronounced.pretty fucking neat.thanks for sharing. those are wild looking.
