what percent humidity are you guys selling at?

[HUGE]

I nominate this as one of the greatest posts ever.spot on.

when handling herb low low moisture is a liabilty.
its near impossible to get it through a couple steps to the personal use market at that moisture level. a slight give to the tissue allows the herb to travel and remain high quality. it also allows for the air time necessary to look at samples,inspect pounds, reseal, break down, show off, pack bowls etc without it turning to dust. not that thats what needs to happen to a pound but its nice when its possible. herb shatters when handled at too low of a moisture level, and it get dryer everytime its handled.
its a negligeable weight difference between what i consider moist enough to sell and too dry imo. if i have the bags the way i like em for market and then they dry out from being left open by mistake or sitting too long with pinholes, a pound never loses more than 5-12 grams at most. so people buying an ounce might see the loss of a half gram at most if they want their herb so dry it turns to a crumbly mess. we always went by that feel of herb when its dry enough to light a joint, but barely. barely joint ready was our seal it up barometer. i usually miss that mark and pass it on at totally joint ready but. a little moister makes for better weed when you look at the big picture of what will it look look when it gets to its final destination. duffle bag crunch, bin crunch, car ride crunch rumble rumble,in backpack on bike ride rumble crumble crunch etc. at the end of that what moisture level would you want it to have started at? you can always air it out for a few hours and seal it up.

 

[Jhhnn]

when handling herb low low moisture is a liabilty.
its near impossible to get it through a couple steps to the personal use market at that moisture level. a slight give to the tissue allows the herb to travel and remain high quality. it also allows for the air time necessary to look at samples,inspect pounds, reseal, break down, show off, pack bowls etc without it turning to dust. not that thats what needs to happen to a pound but its nice when its possible. herb shatters when handled at too low of a moisture level, and it get dryer everytime its handled.
its a negligeable weight difference between what i consider moist enough to sell and too dry imo. if i have the bags the way i like em for market and then they dry out from being left open by mistake or sitting too long with pinholes, a pound never loses more than 5-12 grams at most. so people buying an ounce might see the loss of a half gram at most if they want their herb so dry it turns to a crumbly mess. we always went by that feel of herb when its dry enough to light a joint, but barely. barely joint ready was our seal it up barometer. i usually miss that mark and pass it on at totally joint ready but. a little moister makes for better weed when you look at the big picture of what will it look look when it gets to its final destination. duffle bag crunch, bin crunch, car ride crunch rumble rumble,in backpack on bike ride rumble crumble crunch etc. at the end of that what moisture level would you want it to have started at? you can always air it out for a few hours and seal it up.

I nominate this as one of the greatest posts ever.spot on.

Indeed. My efforts are utterly non-commercial, but I'd suggest that tossing a couple of large 62% boveda packs into bags of dried marketable herb will automatically keep the moisture content right where it belongs for months, even with slight leakage of the container, opening & closing, whatever.

If the packs start to get dessicated, it's a tipoff to a bad seal.

 

[user-name]

do you guys really check the moisture content of your weed, or do you just go by experience "when it feels right"?
i usually dry it down until it doesn't feel bone dry yet.
But i'd like to get a better method to be able to reproduce the outcome more accurately.

 

[RonSmooth]

do you guys really check the moisture content of your weed, or do you just go by experience "when it feels right"?
i usually dry it down until it doesn't feel bone dry yet.
But i'd like to get a better method to be able to reproduce the outcome more accurately.

That would probably depend on the person and their (or their customers demands) I don't check mine with an instrument, just by feel.

To me, perfect is sticky & dry - almost brittle feeling but solid. And glistening with oily, sticky trichomes.

 

[user-name]

Thanks for the reply.
Drying usually worked fine, with the herb beeing dry and sticky, a little flexible, but perfect to crumble for use.
This time it got all crumbly since it dried too long.
Fortunately I just do it for myself, so a mistake like i had is okay.
I wanted to check if maybe there is a better method/check for the drying, but i guess i just need to get a little more experience and pay a little more attention in the last steps of curing/drying.

Would you recommend remoisturing too dry material, or is it safer to just keep it dry now?
If so, how would you remoisture it safely?

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i don't sell weed but i have bought weed and grow some for personal use. when i buy i find the more bricked up it was the wetter it was at the start of the trip. some "mexican" is still flexibly limp when you break it apart. of the "high grade" stuff i've bought a lot of times it was just about the right amount of moisture. dry all the way to the stems but still moist enough that you can break off individual calyxes and not make a dust storm of dry weed and trichomes all over everything.

have no idea what those numbers would be. but if the base of the stem where you cut the bud is still green looking when you're putting it into jars/ airtight sealing then it's still too wet. that shits gonna get moldy in 3 days or so. for eye and hand testing try pulling a bud clusters/ calyxes off the branch by peeling it down with light pressure. if it snaps cleanly without coming completely detached then it's close enough, if it tears fibers down and it's dangling like a string then it's too wet. if it snaps clean off it might be too dry.

i personally since i don't sell keep mine barely moist. when i take it out the jar it feels perfectly moist like i described the high grade i've bought. if you leave it sitting for like 3 minutes it will dry enough to crumble to dust. this is how i like it personally. if you sell privately to close friends and associates out of your jars then the level of moisture i go for might be better for you. but if you stash in bags then a little more moist will keep it from being dust by the time it goes to market.

 

[maryjane481]

Simple. Just rehydrate with some cannabis leaves. Then continue to cure.

 

[Jhhnn]

Thanks for the reply.
Drying usually worked fine, with the herb beeing dry and sticky, a little flexible, but perfect to crumble for use.
This time it got all crumbly since it dried too long.
Fortunately I just do it for myself, so a mistake like i had is okay.
I wanted to check if maybe there is a better method/check for the drying, but i guess i just need to get a little more experience and pay a little more attention in the last steps of curing/drying.

Would you recommend remoisturing too dry material, or is it safer to just keep it dry now?
If so, how would you remoisture it safely?

You could lay out the herb, mist it very lightly w/ water, put it in an airtight container with a couple of these-

http://www.amazon.com/Boveda-Large-...&qid=1410194927&sr=8-12&keywords=boveda+packs

They'll moisturize the herb slowly over time. The misting will just speed that up. They really are the ultimate way to cure & dry herb, imho.

As simon points out, once the herb is too dry the curing process won't start up again.

 

[Mikell]

Simple. Just rehydrate with some cannabis leaves. Then continue to cure.

You love that hay taste as well? Daamn, thought I was the only one.......

 

[user-name]

so rehydration leads to hay taste?
i better smoke it uncured then. it's not perfect, but everything is better, than that horrible hay taste.

 

[Jhhnn]

so rehydration leads to hay taste?
i better smoke it uncured then. it's not perfect, but everything is better, than that horrible hay taste.

Dunno if he's talking about rehydrating or using green MJ leaves to do it. I experimented a little with cured herb recently, let some get way dry quite by space case accident. I sealed it in a jar w/ a large 62% boveda pack for a couple of weeks & it came out springy, tasted the same as it ever did.

 

[Mikell]

Well I'll concede a bit, Jhhnn. How dry was it?

I've never done it myself (yet), but have smoked the results a few times. e.g. a sloppily packed pound was misplaced and dried until it could be ground to flour at a light touch. The owner rehydrated for sale, and we sampled a bit for opinion. Besides a ridiculous throat cough, it tasted and smelled like fresh cut alfalfa.

That's generally been the result I've noticed, but it no doubt depends on how fast you do it, initial quality, moisture content, what you rehydrate with, etc.

 

[Jhhnn]

Well I'll concede a bit, Jhhnn. How dry was it?

I've never done it myself (yet), but have smoked the results a few times. e.g. a sloppily packed pound was misplaced and dried until it could be ground to flour at a light touch. The owner rehydrated for sale, and we sampled a bit for opinion. Besides a ridiculous throat cough, it tasted and smelled like fresh cut alfalfa.

That's generally been the result I've noticed, but it no doubt depends on how fast you do it, initial quality, moisture content, what you rehydrate with, etc.

My one experience is that I ended up with what I started with before it got too dry, give or take. Had I started with hay, I figure I'd have ended up with hay.

Weed initially dried too quickly def ends up tasting like hay, something I remember from long ago.

 

[Mikell]

My one experience is that I ended up with what I started with before it got too dry, give or take. Had I started with hay, I figure I'd have ended up with hay.

Weed initially dried too quickly def ends up tasting like hay, something I remember from long ago.

Probably nails it right there.

 

[tleaf jr.]

drying with the leaves on will help with the grass smell and a brown paper bag before the cure will slow the drying process after 2 days or so package and shipment can occur....with good smelling weed a cure doesn't have to happen , my og I can chop dry and bag and customers love it ...if you need tocure it to bring the smell out then it wasn't that loud to begin with

 

[user-name]

if you need tocure it to bring the smell out then it wasn't that loud to begin with

i guess thats true. the strain i had problems with too fast drying doesn't taste good - no matter if cured or not. but this time it is not just "not really good" but even undescribably horrible. i will try if it at least can get a smokable hash, or throw it away if not.

 

[Jhhnn]

i guess thats true. the strain i had problems with too fast drying doesn't taste good - no matter if cured or not. but this time it is not just "not really good" but even undescribably horrible. i will try if it at least can get a smokable hash, or throw it away if not.

Read simon's curing method in "a perfect cure every time". He claims that when weed dries beyond a certain point that curing stops & can't be restarted. I suspect he's right. So if you get it too dry too fast, it's hay & it'll always be hay. There may be other factors, as well, dunno.

 

[user-name]

thanks for pointing me in the right direction. i will try that the next time.

 

[Jhhnn]

drying with the leaves on will help with the grass smell and a brown paper bag before the cure will slow the drying process after 2 days or so package and shipment can occur....with good smelling weed a cure doesn't have to happen , my og I can chop dry and bag and customers love it ...if you need tocure it to bring the smell out then it wasn't that loud to begin with

Some weed doesn't need much of a cure for people to like it, as you say. OTOH, I think that any weed benefits from a good cure. It brings out the aroma, as you say, but it also mellows the smoke & gives better flavor.

Try it yourself- follow simon's method with some for yourself, particularly something you're familiar with. Leave it sealed at 62% RH in a cool dark place for a couple of months. You may be pleasantly surprised.

 

[moonymonkey]

ull say this alot of times wen drying bag weed,wen it loses its smell,the potenncy way down indicating over dry,measure humidity of weed and you want it to be a mark or so higher then that.say losest point 78% 79,or wat ever is best for you.not sure if this works for kb.i know sometimes wen kindbud gets to dry it loses the smell with potency....peace moon/