Minions of the Dark

[HillBilly1]

I like the. Greasy ones

 

[Seaf0ur]

I've been doing a lot of looking, and I have come to the firm belief that THC% doesnt mean very much. DJ Short once said that the best he'd ever had only tested at like 16%, and I think I know why... because Terpenes are what is most important.

The synergy of terpenes and cannabinoids are most likely responsible for providing the effective treatment of pain, anxiety, epilepsy, inflammation, depression, cancer, fungal and bacterial infections, including methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus. Terpenes are the components responsible for the plethora of powerful medicinal benefits delivered by cannabis.

A recent publication by Ethan Russo of GW Pharmaceuticals in the British Journal of Pharmacology (http://10.1111/j.1476-5381.2011.01238.x) describes this effect, which is now being termed the entourage effect. For medicinal cannabis patients to receive the proper medication, finding the right strain/product required to meet their medical needs, they will need to understand the terpene content and seek to harness the complete entourage effect being delivered by their particular strain selection.

Terpenes are ultimately responsible for delivering the complex effects provided by whole plant medicinal cannabis products. Any patient who has attempted to utilize only THC, CBD and CBN will quickly be able to tell you that comparing only THC values will not help you identify which strain is best for them. Screening for terpenes is important as they are critical to understanding of each strain of cannabis. Cannabis is far more complex than only one, or two, cannabinoids delivering the therapeutic effect. Terpenes modify and modulate the effects of THC and other cannabinoids and impact the overall medicinal properties of the particular cultivar. Terpenes are also predominant players in the smell and taste of medicinal cannabis.

In Cannabis:

over 120 different terpenes can be produced by Cannabis, some only in trace amounts with others in double-digit percentage
produced in the Trichomes, the same glands where THC is produced, comprising between 10 and 20 percent of the total oils produced by the glands
about 10-29 percent of marijuana smoke resin is composed of terpenes/terpenoids
drug sniffing dogs are able to smell odorous terpenes, not THC
age, maturation and time of day can affect the amount and ratios of terpenes. They are constantly being produced but are vaporized by heat and light of the day
climate and weather also affect terpene and flavonoid production. The same variety, even genotype, can produce a different terpene profile when grown in different soils or with different fertilizers.
in addition to many circulatory and muscular effects, some terpenes interact with neurological receptors
a few bind weakly to Cannabinoid receptors
others seem to alter the permeability of cell membranes and allow in either more or less THC
others affect serotonin and dopamine chemistry (neurotransmitters)

Pinenes: Pine odor, bronchodilators that opens the lungs to possibly improve THC absorption. Responsible for increasing focus, self-satisfaction, and energy.

Caryophyllene: Sweet, woody, clove taste responsible for anti-inflammatory and neuroprotective effects through CB2 receptor activation.

Linalool: Floral smell that is believed to provide some anti-cancer effects as well as being known to cause severe sedation.

Limonene: Has a citrus scent and may possess anti-cancer, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-depression abilities.

Myrcene: Effects intake of THC by brain cells to increase the overall effects of THC when ingested together.


It is my contention that Myrcene is more important than THC simply because Myrcene either increases, or decreases, the THC absorption rate. If DJ's 16%er had the Myrcene behind it, the THC could be almost completely absorbed by the user.... In contrast, you could have a 30%er with no Myrcene... and you might not absorb nearly as much THC as the 16%er.... add to that Linalool (which is responsible for a sedative effect).... A lower THC strain would sedate you more than a higher THC strain provided the Linalool was higher in the low THC sample... This is way more complicated than just high THC in my opinion... So, your 19%er might beat the shit out of a 30%er given the proper terpene levels....

 

[SG1]

I totally agree with you.

I see it this way:

I think delicious foods and tasty desserts.
Neither of which contains drugs that most would call mind altering.
But! Yet they give great pleasure to your brain, merely by sight, smell, and flavor.

A quick drive thru meal would fill you up just as well, if you're just looking to fill up.
Just like mediocre tasting power weed gets you loaded.

High THC weed without flavor, just gets you high.
High terpenes with it's flavors and scents, just tastes and smells good.
Now combine the two, and it's gourmet all the way.

I already know My stuff has good terpene counts, appealing to the eye, and with increasing THC counts, leads to a great smoke experience.

We all love a great tasting smoke, but if it gets you shit faced stupid, then you got good weed.

Love smoking the num num's, while gettin dum dum

 

[sundance6758]

Sea or anyone else reading this....

Sea or anyone else reading this....

WHY QUESTION: Was just downstairs watering the flowering room & checked on SG's & Sea's babies....All came up, except 2 of Sea's Ashratu, right? Last week, 1 of them popped up unexpectedly approx. 1 month later....Surprise-surprise! LOL Well, now the other (last) one just did the same....planted 1/2 inch deep & 39 days later Ashratu has arrived....Why?? LOL How??? Possibly seed casing is super thick, ya think??? LOL Because I don't know, but I want to...boggles this Ol' Lady's mind....
~Dancing around in circles about an unexpected Birth~

 

[bugman52]

I make infused Coconut Oil all the time, but I have NEVER combined Oil/Butter....How did you do that??? I'm about ready for a change with this harvest....

~Sundance~ Ok, had a talk with the KID...Of course he will NEVER walk away from weed, but I think he needs to stick with Mom's Smoke for awhile & STOP buying in town when he is running low...or eat my Edibles...that is the plan, but did you EVER stick to a Plan at 25 y/o?? LOL I never did, but we will see how it all goes...He thought the Hyperemesis Vid was classic! LOL Of course he was very High when watching & not on my Smoke...L'il Shit...do they ever just listen??? HA!

its canna coco oil i just called it coco butter .i useley make canna butter with butter lol.

 

[sundance6758]

OOOOHhhhhh......well shit, you coulda said so in the firstplace...LOL I wanted to try something different....damn!

~Dance~ I wonder what cannabutter & cannaoil combined would be like....hummmmm....what'cha think? Give it a try??? LOL

 

[sundance6758]

How can I make my Bubble hash into oil?

Just heat then refrigerate then heat then refrigerate
And again. Heat to 180 for 20mins ?? I get board with
Butter after awhile

Hey Billy, I would heat to 220F, add oil (I use coconut, Organic) that has been gently heated just to the melt stage, pop in the oven for 20-30 mins, allow to cool on the counter, heat again, cool, then freeze....allow to thaw & since there is NO straining involved, pour into Glass Jar after reheating in oven (I use canning jars) & put the lid on it! I store mine in my kitchen cabinet....NO refridge needed...stores perfect! When you want to use it, stick the jar into the microwave for 30-60 secs & use....

~Dance~ I haven't tried the Bubble >>Cannaoil, but that sounds right to me! As long as it's NOT heated at a high temp at anytime....not above 265F....I know someone to ask to make sure I have that right...I'll get back to you or maybe Bugman knows more???

 

[3Deez]

Ravnus: 10 days since the lights flipped but I'm calling the tent at day 1 of flower now that they're all showing enough hairs.

 

[sundance6758]

Hi Dummy! LOL Insomnia? Or too hot to sleep there....

~Dancing in the Dark!~

 

[3Deez]

Sup Sunny!
Little bit of both I guess. Just smoked a bowl though so hopefully the sleep is on its way! I hope you're enjoying the weekend thus far!

 

[HatchBrew]

I've been doing a lot of looking, and I have come to the firm belief that THC% doesnt mean very much. DJ Short once said that the best he'd ever had only tested at like 16%, and I think I know why... because Terpenes are what is most important.










Pinenes: Pine odor, bronchodilators that opens the lungs to possibly improve THC absorption. Responsible for increasing focus, self-satisfaction, and energy.

Caryophyllene: Sweet, woody, clove taste responsible for anti-inflammatory and neuroprotective effects through CB2 receptor activation.

Linalool: Floral smell that is believed to provide some anti-cancer effects as well as being known to cause severe sedation.

Limonene: Has a citrus scent and may possess anti-cancer, anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-depression abilities.

Myrcene: Effects intake of THC by brain cells to increase the overall effects of THC when ingested together.


It is my contention that Myrcene is more important than THC simply because Myrcene either increases, or decreases, the THC absorption rate. If DJ's 16%er had the Myrcene behind it, the THC could be almost completely absorbed by the user.... In contrast, you could have a 30%er with no Myrcene... and you might not absorb nearly as much THC as the 16%er.... add to that Linalool (which is responsible for a sedative effect).... A lower THC strain would sedate you more than a higher THC strain provided the Linalool was higher in the low THC sample... This is way more complicated than just high THC in my opinion... So, your 19%er might beat the shit out of a 30%er given the proper terpene levels....

Myrcene is also flavor component of parsley, bay leaf & hops.

 

[HatchBrew]

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[SG1]

Mornin minions

I hope everyone is having a great Labor day weekend.

Sun is back out here at home.
Outdoor girls are smoking this year.
Many of us PNW growers are feeling that this will be a great outdoor year.
We are surely due a banner year.

So anyway, I've been thinking of which of my regular seed stock to pop in 2 weeks.

Here's 3 choices for everyone's input.

------------------The Purps
--------Dionysus (HJ's cut x Dion #1) 50/50 mix
------------------Aqua marine dream
Ravnus #1 + #2
------------------Dark Queen
--------Overlord
------------------Halo 09 cut


---------The Purps

Halo 2.0 (re-breeding of original)

---------Romulan


---------Grand daddy Purps

Goblin daddy purps (in collaboration with MajorB, IRG, and SG)
--------------------Goblin Girl
---------Dark Goblin
--------------------Blackwater


I am leaning toward the Halo 2.0
I feel this will give me a legitimate Halo male to start true F-2's.
It will also back up the Halo BX4's with some inline breeding potential.

Ravnus's have 2 separate breeding's, both with the HJ cut and the most dense and heavy weight Dion #1 which was never released for testing, but was used for the Dionysus queen breeding with 2 great female phenos out of just 2 seeds.

Goblin daddy purps not bred by me, but have great promise.

What does everyone think??

 

[Seaf0ur]

halo

 

[HatchBrew]

halo.

 

[HillBilly1]

Hey Billy, I would heat to 220F, add oil (I use coconut, Organic) that has been gently heated just to the melt stage, pop in the oven for 20-30 mins, allow to cool on the counter, heat again, cool, then freeze....allow to thaw & since there is NO straining involved, pour into Glass Jar after reheating in oven (I use canning jars) & put the lid on it! I store mine in my kitchen cabinet....NO refridge needed...stores perfect! When you want to use it, stick the jar into the microwave for 30-60 secs & use....

~Dance~ I haven't tried the Bubble >>Cannaoil, but that sounds right to me! As long as it's NOT heated at a high temp at anytime....not above 265F....I know someone to ask to make sure I have that right...I'll get back to you or maybe Bugman knows more???

Thank you Sunny

 

[HillBilly1]

So i can see where DCD got her long hairs
( don't mind the ashes )


BCD

 

[HillBilly1]

Ravnus

 

[sundance6758]

I want to see Halo.....

~Sundance~

 

[HillBilly1]

Mornin minions

I hope everyone is having a great Labor day weekend.

Sun is back out here at home.
Outdoor girls are smoking this year.
Many of us PNW growers are feeling that this will be a great outdoor year.
We are surely due a banner year.

So anyway, I've been thinking of which of my regular seed stock to pop in 2 weeks.

Here's 3 choices for everyone's input.

------------------The Purps
--------Dionysus (HJ's cut x Dion #1) 50/50 mix
------------------Aqua marine dream
Ravnus #1 + #2
------------------Dark Queen
--------Overlord
------------------Halo 09 cut


---------The Purps

Halo 2.0 (re-breeding of original)

---------Romulan


---------Grand daddy Purps

Goblin daddy purps (in collaboration with MajorB, IRG, and SG)
--------------------Goblin Girl
---------Dark Goblin
--------------------Blackwater


I am leaning toward the Halo 2.0
I feel this will give me a legitimate Halo male to start true F-2's.
It will also back up the Halo BX4's with some inline breeding potential.

Ravnus's have 2 separate breeding's, both with the HJ cut and the most dense and heavy weight Dion #1 which was never released for testing, but was used for the Dionysus queen breeding with 2 great female phenos out of just 2 seeds.

Goblin daddy purps not bred by me, but have great promise.

What does everyone think??

I am having the same problem , Only mine is MTG Mendo
Mind Warp, GGG Mindscape , MMSS Chemo , Purple Diesel ,
or TGAs Ace of Spades , Vortex , Plushberry , Crazytrain