Essential Oils for Holy Anointing Oil

[Weed Killer]

I just got my cinnamons and myrrh and noticed they are marked for external use only.

Wanted to make the oral HAO, has anyone used these for the oral or just topical?

 

[Gray Wolf]

I just got my cinnamons and myrrh and noticed they are marked for external use only.

Wanted to make the oral HAO, has anyone used these for the oral or just topical?

I have used them orally, but:

Alternative bulk sources for food grade essential oils for use in oral medications are:

http://www.lalaessentialoils.com/natural-essential-oils.html#A

and right here in Portland, Oregon http://www.essentialoil.com/.

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And in bulk quantities with analysis and certifications, from one of the major industry suppliers, http://www.lebermuth.com/

 

[SativaBreather]

I take frankincense oil orally even though it says for external use only, think they just have to say that shit to cover their ass

 

[Weed Killer]

Cool thanks for the reply, maybe next time I'll get then from one of the others

 

[Weed Killer]

turned out good but it had a little burnt taste.

used 50%trim 50%bud, winterized, decarbed, don't think i exceded 260 degrees

is it normal to have a burnt taste? would a 100% bud lessen that?

 

[gaiusmarius]

it shouldn't taste burned. the trick is to add water to the oil and let it simmer, that way it can't get too hot. oil alone can get much hotter and end up burning things, hence the burnt taste.

 

[Weed Killer]

interesting, aprox how much water to oil? and when after the alcohol has evaporated?

 

[Gray Wolf]

turned out good but it had a little burnt taste.

used 50%trim 50%bud, winterized, decarbed, don't think i exceded 260 degrees

is it normal to have a burnt taste? would a 100% bud lessen that?

Burned oil has a distinctive odor, long before taste time. Did it stink up the room with the odor?

To your question, no it isn't normal to have a burned taste, but it will have a more hashy phenolic after taste with most of the lighter monoterpenes long gone.

That isn't a burned taste, but is still an unpleasant after taste.

The cinnamon candy flavoring oil in the Holy Shit version is to cover up that after taste and serves no other purpose.

You could burn oil at 260F if you left it long enough, so my first question would be how you determined it was time to quit?

Was that the pool temperature, or the oil bath temperature?

I prefer maximum head effect and minimal sedative effect, so I stop decarboxylating at 70%, or when the CO2 bubble activity suddenly slacks off.

If you cook until there is no bubble activity, or 100% decarboxylation, and then continue to cook it longer, you will make it more sedative and the flavor more pungent.

 

[gaiusmarius]

basically it doesn't matter how much water, it just needs to be enough, in the end the oil will separate from the water very quickly when it cools off and goes in the fridge, just like when you make canna butter. once cold the oil with all active parts will turn into a floating glob. take it out of the water and strain the water for any small pieces of fat.

 

[Weed Killer]

Burned oil has a distinctive odor, long before taste time. Did it stink up the room with the odor?

Guess it was my perception of burnt. No it did not stink up the room, the cinnamon oils almost took care of the taste, I will get some candy flavor.

I cooked until no more bubbles very close to :30 after it hit 250, measuring the pool with a laser thermometer. >>will cook less next time.

Still friends loved it, and i'm out so I will be making more soon.

Thanks

 

[Weed Killer]

basically it doesn't matter how much water, it just needs to be enough, in the end the oil will separate from the water very quickly when it cools off and goes in the fridge, just like when you make canna butter. once cold the oil with all active parts will turn into a floating glob. take it out of the water and strain the water for any small pieces of fat.

Cool will try that, thanks for the tech

 

[ellisonbrowny]

The holy anointing oil related to spiritual methods and priesthood or you guys are talking about??

 

[gaiusmarius]

The holy anointing oil related to spiritual methods and priesthood or you guys are talking about??

we are talking about this:

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=140269

there are claims that the original holy anointing oil from the Bible, was actually made with cannabis. on this theory lots of people have been making the oil for medical reasons.

welcome to ic btw

 

[gaiusmarius]

GW, are you using a oil bath with a bowl of the ingredients to cook, or do you also cook it up with water first? i want to up the potency of some of this stuff and am wondering if i should re dissolve it in simmering water directly to add more hash, or would you melt it without water and add the hash, or would you make oil from the hash first? what are your thoughts?

 

[MrManDead]

GW, are you using a oil bath with a bowl of the ingredients to cook, or do you also cook it up with water first? i want to up the potency of some of this stuff and am wondering if i should re dissolve it in simmering water directly to add more hash, or would you melt it without water and add the hash, or would you make oil from the hash first? what are your thoughts?

Just melt it in a glass jar or pyrex measuring cup in water bath. Not warm enough to further decarb significantly, and more than warm enough to fully melt more hash into the mix.

 

[gaiusmarius]

doesn't the hash need to be cooked into the oil? also would need to be strained after as well, else it will be sandy?

 

[Gray Wolf]

GW, are you using a oil bath with a bowl of the ingredients to cook, or do you also cook it up with water first? i want to up the potency of some of this stuff and am wondering if i should re dissolve it in simmering water directly to add more hash, or would you melt it without water and add the hash, or would you make oil from the hash first? what are your thoughts?

I've not tried making HAO directly from hash and extracting the oil from hash with anything other than a solvent that is readily removed afterwards, is by definition going to be less than 100% concentrate.

Your recipe determines the ratio of coconut oil and other solvents like cinnamon oil, but ours is 10 grams of concentrate and 4.7 grams of solvent in the form of coconut oil and cinnamon.

Typically concentrate/solvent ratios are reversed, so the ability to remove some or all of the solvent afterwards is key to potency of the end product

I recommend making HAO from BHO or QWET because you know what the potency is and there are fewer non active ingredients in the overall bulk.

When extracting oil from hash for HAO without a Terpenator, I suggest using ambient ethanol extraction and add the other HAO oil mixture in once you have cooked away the residual alcohol and decarboxylated the new batch.

 

[gaiusmarius]

so from everything i've read i'm guessing ethanol is the best option for a solvent in this situation? lets see if the local drug store will sell me a liter or 2?

have you ever tested the difference in medical effectiveness between HAO made from flowers/leaves and HAO made from concentrate?

i'm still wondering if there are not some medical properties in the non active ingredients that might be lost in making/winterizing BHO? i know you can get a much more concentrated HAO using concentrates and that of course in some cases is vital to as you have said get enough inside peeps. speaking of potency, you seem to have doubled the amount of bho you add per g of coconut oil, again, lol?

thanks for your advise GW, it's much appreciated.

 

[Nickog]

Is there any evidence of the effects of HAO over regular cannabis oil? Is the addition of the essential oils just for taste and consistency, or does the additional oils have some other action?

 

[gaiusmarius]

yeah they compliment it, the cinnamon helps it get into your blood better, not sure what the Myrrh does again, i'm sure it's mentioned in the sticky about the HAO.