Need opinion or advice on bulking up buds in week 7

[AloeRuss]

Hi

I have some plants that finishing weeks 7 in 2 days.
I fed them with H&G coco a and b (7 ml a gallon)
Powder Kool Bloom 2 scoops 30 gal
SM90 2 ml per gallon

I was thinking of adding something else to help them to bulk up and get some weight in them.
It's too late for bud xl. Maybe Shooting Powder?
What you guys think?

 

[Fly by Night]

Mabe pluck some fan leaves, let light deep under her skirt. Mabe let the pots dry will get u a little swell or some added sparkle. Try lowerin temp too

Peace

Peace

 

[Snow Crash]

Probably too late unless you're running an 80 day sativa. On a 56-60 day indica/dom. strain then you probably should reduce the feed levels to prevent overfeeding and funkifying your finished product and just take what you can get at a higher quality.

Plants don't eat nutrients. Nutrients are not food. Nutrients are vitamins. If you wanted to bulk up you don't eat more Centrum. You eat more food! And food for plants is Light and Air. This is what they use to generate energy and build tissue with, in the way we use proteins and fats. The vitamins/nutrients are just there to facilitate these processes. Unless you have more photons and CO2 in the grow space than the plants can use they cannot utilize more nutrients; another product in the reservoir isn't going to do dick unless it's a PGR.

But, that brings up a point.

If you have the right strains that need more time then you can introduce CO2 enrichment at 1200-1400ppm during daylight hours. And by ensuring a 1000umol/sec per M2 to use that CO2 then you could theoretically bump your nutrient solution ppm's by 10-20% for the next week and probably see better gains.

But that's $$$ into the grow for a really small return on your investment this time around. I believe that the best use of your time and money right now is understanding what went wrong earlier in the grow and doing what ever is possible to prevent that from being an issue in the future.

 

[SS-]

Have you ran powdered the whole way through before? When I did my buds didn't add any "meat". Had big fluffy buds that weren't filled out correctly.

 

[AloeRuss]

Snow. I already have co2 at 1500. In the way of quality, less vitamins this run gave me the best looking and I am sure tasting bud possible.
After tomorrow will be the end of week 7. For the next 12-16 days or so, they will be putting on the size, so I wanted to add something that helps out.
It is probably late as well but I gave bud XL a few times and feed daily.

Because of vegging them for 7 weeks I have massive plants anyway.
I will just let it ride until week 9. Will see what happens.

Thank you guys.

 

[Granger2]

Turn the CO2 down to 400 ppm, no more nutes, use MOlasses @ 2 tsp/gal till flush, then just water and plenty of it. -granger

 

[theother]

Turn the CO2 down to 400 ppm, no more nutes, use MOlasses @ 2 tsp/gal till flush, then just water and plenty of it. -granger

I like this finishing routine, I'm gonna try it. Week before flush is an awkward one, makes sense, feed the biology and it will help the plant uptake whatever is left.

Aloe, do you have any pics of what they are looking like at 7? What strain is it?

 

[AloeRuss]

It is sound awesome Granger, but isnt molasses just feeds benes which I think I have 2 or 3 left (or not one for that matter). Since H&G and the rest is synthetic.

Theo - I will snap a good pick tonight with lights on and post it here.

 

[wantaknow]

Humbolt county g10 flower hardne no pgrs in the new stj
Uff look on amazon

 

[Granger2]

Chem nutes are not like bleach or something. They don't wipe out the microherd. You can nurture the herd. Especially if you inoculate with EWC ACT or something like Great White periodically. And by feeding sugars. -granger

 

[AloeRuss]

Granger. This is the point that is very important to me.
I wanted to use molasses on so many occasions. I am just attracted to its qualities.
But time after time I was told or explained that it's a waste.

I tried to research. I wanted to prove that it has benefits even with synthetics but found nothing othere then how good it smells.

Do you have any articles or posts that I can study? I would love for you to be right but I don't want to just add something again.

Thank you sir.

 

[theother]

Chem nutes are not like bleach or something. They don't wipe out the microherd. You can nurture the herd. Especially if you inoculate with EWC ACT or something like Great White periodically. And by feeding sugars. -granger

Granger. This is the point that is very important to me.
I wanted to use molasses on so many occasions. I am just attracted to its qualities.
But time after time I was told or explained that it's a waste.

I tried to research. I wanted to prove that it has benefits even with synthetics but found nothing othere then how good it smells.

Do you have any articles or posts that I can study? I would love for you to be right but I don't want to just add something again.

Thank you sir.

How much of a dry cycle do you have? When I run coco on drippers I run it wet, with sm90 etc carbs would just gunk up the root zone and potentially give the anaerobic bacteria something to eat. If you do it more hand water style (loosing 50+% weight between watering) I think you have enough of a dry cycle you would have biology and things like carbs will help.

 

[theother]

And yes synthetic salts do hurt biology, particularly some of the chelates are pretty toxic, can't remember, exactly which ones, maybe EDTA iron or something? Also the ph of the solutions to make the synthetics available is hard on biology, my understanding is that in general a neutral 7 is ideal for biology, so everyone in soil pushes there ph up as high as possible while still making shit available (6.4-6.8)

Don't know how much feeding biology at the end of a synthetic run is going to help, but given the right circumstances I suppose it could.

 

[Granger2]

Gunk up the soil? You'd have to be using a shitload of MO. Note I recommended 2 tsp/gal. Chem nutes are not good for the herd, but as I said, you can nurture the herd to kick up their numbers.

Yes a wet/less wet cycle helps. Chem nutes are not a disinfectant. They don't help the herd, but that can be overcome with inoculants and sugars.

Aloe, it's up to you. You can try it, or not. Do a side by side, and see what you think. Good luck. -granger

 

[Snow Crash]

Here's a thread from a while back where a guy compares CannaBoost to Molasses side-by-side. It's a good read but the tldr; is that the CannaBoost was a little bit more effective, but that the cost doesn't justify the use when Molasses was almost as good for 90% less $.

Canna Boost V Molasses - side by side comparison.

 

[AloeRuss]

Theother, granger and naturally Snow ..
I am at 7 1/2 weeks now.
I will stop feeding today and start do phed water +molasses. Since I keep my ladies to 9 weeks, I still have time.
Thank you

 

[theother]

Theother, granger and naturally Snow ..
I am at 7 1/2 weeks now.
I will stop feeding today and start do phed water +molasses. Since I keep my ladies to 9 weeks, I still have time.
Thank you

Sounds good man, pictures will always help the advice you get if there possible.

 

[billgee]

Probably too late ... in the future.

Like I said
You know youre shit

Nice allegory (or whatever that is) about vitamins and food.
I hope he/she listens

 

[AloeRuss]

Here is one of the nugs. Tomorrow is week 8 but they deffenatley don't look it

 

[newtothiscoco]

you could always feed them with some brand of sugar