YES IT IS, EVERYONE KNOWS CANNABIS WAS PERFECT LONG AGO.
NO, THAT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID, CANNABIS NEVER WAS PERFECT.
NO, THAT IS JUST PLAIN STUPID, CANNABIS NEVER WAS PERFECT.
IS LOW POTENCY A RECESSIVE TRAIT?
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suzycremecheese
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Perfect is in the eye of the beholder. The Cannabis species as a whole always was and still is perfect. How individual traits are inherited doesn't make it any more or less perfect in my mind.
No that leaves me here wondering how to vote. I'd say yes it's perfect but know potency isn't recessive or a trait. It is a group of traits so complex that it is subjective to the individual experiencing it and the chemistry within them that it reacts with.
No that leaves me here wondering how to vote. I'd say yes it's perfect but know potency isn't recessive or a trait. It is a group of traits so complex that it is subjective to the individual experiencing it and the chemistry within them that it reacts with.
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cannabis in the wild seeks only to reproduce and propagate. rope strength or elevated levels of THC are not necaserally traits fot future generations - unless it is adventagious to another species that can slelect males and female breeding stock - which again ensures the continuation of the plant
In each case - the continuation of the plant is, assured and that; - was the goal of the plant in the first place.
THC and cannabanol production may be recessive - or it may be dominate - it would be dependent on the parents and the genes. It can be influenced by growth methods, and time of harvest – but even the best world won’t make hemp a marketable drug
As I re-read this - the thought occurs - possibly THC productin COULD be recessive in hemp srtains. Who would know?
Thoughts you would have never pondered but stumbled upon.
RockyMountainHi said:
In each case - the continuation of the plant is, assured and that; - was the goal of the plant in the first place.
THC and cannabanol production may be recessive - or it may be dominate - it would be dependent on the parents and the genes. It can be influenced by growth methods, and time of harvest – but even the best world won’t make hemp a marketable drug
As I re-read this - the thought occurs - possibly THC productin COULD be recessive in hemp srtains. Who would know?
Thoughts you would have never pondered but stumbled upon.
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Perfect then, perfect now. The plant is/has been perfect.
This subject is like a dog who keeps working a hotspot on it's ass
Like a 16yr old kid popping zits in order to look more attractive.
Bad sex with the ex.
It doesn't make sense, but it keeps happening.
Here is MY theory(lol). At 1 time, all cannabis smelled DELICIOUSLY AWESOME. All smells in all plants, true breeding, blah, blah, blah. Then people FUKKED it all up and now we are forced to re-combine genetics in a pathetic human game of re-combination in an ever hastening slide away from the "Ultimate Stinker (low odor) Mother Plant"
Jettin like a runaway slave...
This subject is like a dog who keeps working a hotspot on it's ass
Like a 16yr old kid popping zits in order to look more attractive.
Bad sex with the ex.
It doesn't make sense, but it keeps happening.
Here is MY theory(lol). At 1 time, all cannabis smelled DELICIOUSLY AWESOME. All smells in all plants, true breeding, blah, blah, blah. Then people FUKKED it all up and now we are forced to re-combine genetics in a pathetic human game of re-combination in an ever hastening slide away from the "Ultimate Stinker (low odor) Mother Plant"
Jettin like a runaway slave...
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alegoblin
bubbl3r said:
I think you should put your hypothesis to the test.LOL.
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I cannot believe that we are back on this silly shit again.
Potency is a relative thing. Not everyone's receptors process the chemicals in the same way, and as a result one mans trash, could be another man's treasure.
And even if we knew what the genetic map of the original plant was...is there anything that we can do about or with it? I don't think so.
I bet you almost wet yourself seeing this brought back up, dint ya, bubbles?
IMO, it's stupid shit wasting everyone's time.
Potency is a relative thing. Not everyone's receptors process the chemicals in the same way, and as a result one mans trash, could be another man's treasure.
And even if we knew what the genetic map of the original plant was...is there anything that we can do about or with it? I don't think so.
I bet you almost wet yourself seeing this brought back up, dint ya, bubbles?
IMO, it's stupid shit wasting everyone's time.
lighterfuel
Member
Sam - What were your findings early on? It seems clear that certain regions of the world have produced potent landraces.
lmao....that was rough Pops....hehehe...but without em we wouldn't have a few things that have done very well..whether recessive or not..Pops said:
Now on that topic I think theres a bigger issue...How well do the farmers of the region grow their Canna..start there..I'd say some folks cant even grow some strains so how could they rate or properly test/compare to start?..
YOu grow crap...you breed crap..yes I'd say very recessive..
But ...there always the diamond in the rough..How 2 norm parents can create a genius..this is Nature..
but I hate politics..so Im not gana Vote!!!...
FOE20
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SonOfPierrot
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Low potency, as i've experienced it, is a matter of more than genetics.
Cannabis likes certain environmental factors in order to maintain a healthy state of being. Some environments encourage the plant to produce more fiber, making its stems thicker and stronger (windswept or heavily traveled areas), some environments encourage extensive and lanky leaf structure to maximize light reception in places where there is often a canopy blocking off light, and there are some rare environments that produce more resin production in the plant.
As far as I can tell, the environmental factors that encourage more resin production across generations are:
Fluctuating temperature, hot to cold, and frequent.
Moisture levels that go from very moist, to very dry, then back again.
Over-grazing by Herbivores over generations can also lead to higher potency of the plant, as THC and other gland secretions are a self-defense mechanism that protect the sexual portions of the plant.
Cannabis likes certain environmental factors in order to maintain a healthy state of being. Some environments encourage the plant to produce more fiber, making its stems thicker and stronger (windswept or heavily traveled areas), some environments encourage extensive and lanky leaf structure to maximize light reception in places where there is often a canopy blocking off light, and there are some rare environments that produce more resin production in the plant.
As far as I can tell, the environmental factors that encourage more resin production across generations are:
Fluctuating temperature, hot to cold, and frequent.
Moisture levels that go from very moist, to very dry, then back again.
Over-grazing by Herbivores over generations can also lead to higher potency of the plant, as THC and other gland secretions are a self-defense mechanism that protect the sexual portions of the plant.
I had read (somewhere and mistakenly did not bookmark it) that Cannabis will progress towards lower potency with each generation without selection. . . So that we need breeders to keep the plant potent.
True?
(makes sense, that the plant would revert/digress towards a lower THC content but a more EVEN cannabinoid profile)
True?
(makes sense, that the plant would revert/digress towards a lower THC content but a more EVEN cannabinoid profile)
I had read (somewhere and mistakenly did not bookmark it) that Cannabis will progress towards lower potency with each generation without selection. . . So that we need breeders to keep the plant potent.
True?
(makes sense, that the plant would revert/digress towards a lower THC content but a more EVEN cannabinoid profile)
True?
(makes sense, that the plant would revert/digress towards a lower THC content but a more EVEN cannabinoid profile)
Before anyone else does add something new to this obsolete poll, I highly recommend to get up to speed with current knowledge (which has drastically improved in the last years) by reading the following publication:
Van Bakel et al., The draft genome and transcriptome of Cannabis sativa, Genome Biology, 2011 (12)
Van Bakel et al., The draft genome and transcriptome of Cannabis sativa, Genome Biology, 2011 (12)
St. Phatty
Active member
Even Hermies ?
Once I tried growing one out to see what would happen.
Decent weed, but obviously too many seeds. In a way, I could see that plant as 'perfect'. My chickens would love a plant like that - they like cannabis seeds.
Sorry, didn't know it would be a bad bump
Thanks for the reference
Thanks for the reference
