6/9 & A Pinch BayBay!
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Ive never used much ph up.
Seems like Silica is cheaper, especially in dry form.
Cutting the RO with tap creates enough of a buffer, even with more acidic solutions than GH Flora series.
Just a little bit of sm90 and the silica should be plenty of up.
from humboldt
S.I can be used as a pH up alternative. Your plants will benefit from additional Potassium Silicate. The typical pH buffer solution ( Potassium Hydroxide and Potassium Carbonate) can add elements to your mixture that are not beneficial to your plants
Seems like Silica is cheaper, especially in dry form.
Cutting the RO with tap creates enough of a buffer, even with more acidic solutions than GH Flora series.
Just a little bit of sm90 and the silica should be plenty of up.
from humboldt
S.I can be used as a pH up alternative. Your plants will benefit from additional Potassium Silicate. The typical pH buffer solution ( Potassium Hydroxide and Potassium Carbonate) can add elements to your mixture that are not beneficial to your plants
Awesome, that pretty much settles that. Honestly had kind of forgotten about tap water, lol, thanks,
Wuts with with 6/9 and liquid koolbloom?
On koolbloom powder days 29 and 36 that are part of rezdogs recipe - does he include the powder ontop of the 6/9 or just powder?
Also does anyone use Benneficials in their coco with 6/9?
and what do ya'll think of Budcandy?
On koolbloom powder days 29 and 36 that are part of rezdogs recipe - does he include the powder ontop of the 6/9 or just powder?
Also does anyone use Benneficials in their coco with 6/9?
and what do ya'll think of Budcandy?
Botanicare coco,fine.
1/4 tsp KB/gallon,@ best.
(Keep PPMs < 1200!!)
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think he meant .7 scale ppm tho
plus he ended up increasing the blasts, but yea on top of the 6/9 or 0/9 was the way he was doing it with the liquid and 1/4tsp
powder at the end was good tho
he also only fed every 24-48 hours.
not multiple feeds of the blasts
1/4 tsp KB/gallon,@ best.
(Keep PPMs < 1200!!)
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Mediocrity Is Not Æn Option.
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2011:The Las Vegas 420 Cup
1st Place Overall: STRAWBERRY DIESEL
(4SD 5th Place)
2010: IC420 Grower's Cup-
Best Sativa- SuperSilverSourDieselHaze (SSSDH)
2010: IC420 Breeder's Cup- Indica,Killer Queen Redux
(A Joint Project with Dutchgrown Seeds)
2010: Good Karma Grower's Cup-
1st Place-Sour Diesel BX 1.5
2009: IC420 Growers Cup-
Best Sativa-SuperSilverSourDieselHaze (SSSDH)
2008 IC420 Breeder of the Year-
Reservoir Seeds
2007 IC Mag 420 Grower's Cup-
Best Sativa-
SOUR DIESEL IBL
2007 LGA Cup-
Strawberry Diesel-2nd PLACE
2005 IC Mag Grower's Cup-
Very Best Sativa
-SOUR DIESEL-
1st/2nd Place,Grower's Cup
3rd Place,Breeder's Cup.
think he meant .7 scale ppm tho
plus he ended up increasing the blasts, but yea on top of the 6/9 or 0/9 was the way he was doing it with the liquid and 1/4tsp
powder at the end was good tho
he also only fed every 24-48 hours.
not multiple feeds of the blasts
Watch your plants,know your plants.
Nothing beats interaction.
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At Reservoir,"We Never Stop Growing,and Neither Should You."
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Mediocrity Is Not Æn Option.
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- - Awards - -
2011:The Las Vegas 420 Cup
1st Place Overall: STRAWBERRY DIESEL
(4SD 5th Place)
2010: IC420 Grower's Cup-
Best Sativa- SuperSilverSourDieselHaze (SSSDH)
2010: IC420 Breeder's Cup- Indica,Killer Queen Redux
(A Joint Project with Dutchgrown Seeds)
2010: Good Karma Grower's Cup-
1st Place-Sour Diesel BX 1.5
2009: IC420 Growers Cup-
Best Sativa-SuperSilverSourDieselHaze (SSSDH)
2008 IC420 Breeder of the Year-
Reservoir Seeds
2007 IC Mag 420 Grower's Cup-
Best Sativa-
SOUR DIESEL IBL
2007 LGA Cup-
Strawberry Diesel-2nd PLACE
2005 IC Mag Grower's Cup-
Very Best Sativa
-SOUR DIESEL-
1st/2nd Place,Grower's Cup
3rd Place,Breeder's Cup.
Nothing beats interaction.
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1st Place Overall: STRAWBERRY DIESEL
(4SD 5th Place)
2010: IC420 Grower's Cup-
Best Sativa- SuperSilverSourDieselHaze (SSSDH)
2010: IC420 Breeder's Cup- Indica,Killer Queen Redux
(A Joint Project with Dutchgrown Seeds)
2010: Good Karma Grower's Cup-
1st Place-Sour Diesel BX 1.5
2009: IC420 Growers Cup-
Best Sativa-SuperSilverSourDieselHaze (SSSDH)
2008 IC420 Breeder of the Year-
Reservoir Seeds
2007 IC Mag 420 Grower's Cup-
Best Sativa-
SOUR DIESEL IBL
2007 LGA Cup-
Strawberry Diesel-2nd PLACE
2005 IC Mag Grower's Cup-
Very Best Sativa
-SOUR DIESEL-
1st/2nd Place,Grower's Cup
3rd Place,Breeder's Cup.
Also from rez... You want to hit them at the right times according to YOUR plants schedules not his 63 day plants
A:
Adjust according to breaking your flower time into percentages,(ie. a 100-day flower=1 day=1% of total flower time....My Formula = @63 days floower=1 day= 1.587 % of My 63 day flower time- Capish?)
....Then break mine down,and apply the same % I use against your numbers to sort out a new formula.
A:
Adjust according to breaking your flower time into percentages,(ie. a 100-day flower=1 day=1% of total flower time....My Formula = @63 days floower=1 day= 1.587 % of My 63 day flower time- Capish?)
....Then break mine down,and apply the same % I use against your numbers to sort out a new formula.
6/9 full strength with KB @ 1/4 tsp per gallon = 1.5 EC for me in R/O. I never fed them anything that hot, cut it down to 1.3EC.
Interesting cause I feed twice every lights on, so I probably need less, just more often.
I'm pretty sure that KB caused the nanners since its known to do that if missused.
May I ask what EC u keep ur res?
I think 1.0 EC is perfect for me.
Ever use liquid KB?
kinda confused by your response regarding 0/9. He would drop micro with using liquid KB?
Thanks!
epic.
I'll have to take tiem off work to relaly read that thread. and Heads thread too?
Thx
This was right after I was using 1.0 for a while... Seemed fine in veg and for the plants that were finishing, but when I put them into flower they faded and the buds were smaller with less smell
I mix 30 gal of 6/9 with 1ml of silica and 1/2 strength sm90. That brings my ec to 1.3-1.4
Without the silica and sm90 its about 1.2-1.3
0/9 is when they cut the micro and just use bloom.
I go from 3/9 to 0/9 (without powder) when my plants are ripening kinda like this chart here http://generalhydroponics.com/site/gh/docs/feeding_sched/GH-FloraSeries-DTW-Charts.pdf
I also use a little bit of tap water & my ec pen is old and never gets calibrated, but works good enough for me.
I was using liquid once a week during onset for awhile.
Thinking Im going to start adding the powder at the end again.
Posted by Real Ting in The Recipe
So I thought it would make sense to run the numbers and figure out exactly how much we are feeding our plants.
I used rez's recommended 1 tsp/gal or 6 grams per gal, going by the label saying 1/4 tsp = 1.5 grams.
6 grams of dry koolbloom powder per gallon works out to
Nitrogen (N) 32 ppm
Phosphorus (P) 311 ppm
Potassium (K) 368 ppm
Mg 16 ppm
S 24 ppm
when you add that to the 6m/9B numbers you get this:
N 129
P 371
K 473
Mg 43
S 65
Ca 97
by comparison GH recommends 1.5 grams or 1/4 tsp per gal, and says to use during flowering and throughout ripening, presumably all the time:
N 8
P 78
K 92
MG 4
S 6
I mix 30 gal of 6/9 with 1ml of silica and 1/2 strength sm90. That brings my ec to 1.3-1.4
Without the silica and sm90 its about 1.2-1.3
0/9 is when they cut the micro and just use bloom.
I go from 3/9 to 0/9 (without powder) when my plants are ripening kinda like this chart here http://generalhydroponics.com/site/gh/docs/feeding_sched/GH-FloraSeries-DTW-Charts.pdf
I also use a little bit of tap water & my ec pen is old and never gets calibrated, but works good enough for me.
I was using liquid once a week during onset for awhile.
Thinking Im going to start adding the powder at the end again.
Posted by Real Ting in The Recipe
So I thought it would make sense to run the numbers and figure out exactly how much we are feeding our plants.
I used rez's recommended 1 tsp/gal or 6 grams per gal, going by the label saying 1/4 tsp = 1.5 grams.
6 grams of dry koolbloom powder per gallon works out to
Nitrogen (N) 32 ppm
Phosphorus (P) 311 ppm
Potassium (K) 368 ppm
Mg 16 ppm
S 24 ppm
when you add that to the 6m/9B numbers you get this:
N 129
P 371
K 473
Mg 43
S 65
Ca 97
by comparison GH recommends 1.5 grams or 1/4 tsp per gal, and says to use during flowering and throughout ripening, presumably all the time:
N 8
P 78
K 92
MG 4
S 6
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You want to read H3ads thread. Or atleast filter the posts and read what he said.
6/9 keep em wet and dail in your environment.
Don't stray too far and its on autopiliot.
Sure there are probably cheaper and easier ways, just get it dialed in at the basic level first
6/9 keep em wet and dail in your environment.
Don't stray too far and its on autopiliot.
Sure there are probably cheaper and easier ways, just get it dialed in at the basic level first
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i added boosts to mine this round. i used whatever dusty bottles i had around.
i am running the 6/9 or jacks 5-12-26/ Ca(NO3)2/ MgSO4 (3-1.8-1 ratio. similar concept to 6/9) depending on which rez. watered down to 1.2-1.3 E.C.at the most,
so to boost i added water down to 1.0 E.C. on that recipe.
then added either p/k 13/14 or hydroplex til it reached 1.3E.C.
adjust p.h. 5.7-5.8
3-4 times a day.
started day 12 or 13. ran this way for 10 days.
adjusted back to 1.3
boosting for flower onset.
trying to decide whether to boost again week 6-7
this a mix of 9-10 week strains
with the exception of white super skunk by raskal (50 days)
gorilla glue #4 more than anything,
sfv
true og
gsc thin mint
gsc forum
wifi 10 phenos
bosses sister 8 phenos
fake trinity.
rugburn og 2 phenos.
so far everything looks happy minus a few patches of swirly on the sfv
and the white super skunk.
another positive change made was r.h. control.
shit went bonkers when i added hummidity in the second week. im going to add more. wiring a humdistat to an electric solenoid that feeds a patio fine low output misting system made to keep wussies cool while they lounge. whole setup on that is fairly cheap.
mumidistat controlled plug in 50-200 bucks depending on what you choose. 20 bucks for mister system which is a 1/8 tube with misters and a garden hose fitting. a 14$ 110/24volt transformer to wire to a 12$ solenoid valve to plug into humidistat. set to 10-15 f below rh percentage number.
im shooting for 80-85 degree canopy so a 65-75 % R.H. for 1500 ppms co2.
100-250 per bucks per flowering room depending on accessaries =precise r.h. dialage
i am running the 6/9 or jacks 5-12-26/ Ca(NO3)2/ MgSO4 (3-1.8-1 ratio. similar concept to 6/9) depending on which rez. watered down to 1.2-1.3 E.C.at the most,
so to boost i added water down to 1.0 E.C. on that recipe.
then added either p/k 13/14 or hydroplex til it reached 1.3E.C.
adjust p.h. 5.7-5.8
3-4 times a day.
started day 12 or 13. ran this way for 10 days.
adjusted back to 1.3
boosting for flower onset.
trying to decide whether to boost again week 6-7
this a mix of 9-10 week strains
with the exception of white super skunk by raskal (50 days)
gorilla glue #4 more than anything,
sfv
true og
gsc thin mint
gsc forum
wifi 10 phenos
bosses sister 8 phenos
fake trinity.
rugburn og 2 phenos.
so far everything looks happy minus a few patches of swirly on the sfv
and the white super skunk.
another positive change made was r.h. control.
shit went bonkers when i added hummidity in the second week. im going to add more. wiring a humdistat to an electric solenoid that feeds a patio fine low output misting system made to keep wussies cool while they lounge. whole setup on that is fairly cheap.
mumidistat controlled plug in 50-200 bucks depending on what you choose. 20 bucks for mister system which is a 1/8 tube with misters and a garden hose fitting. a 14$ 110/24volt transformer to wire to a 12$ solenoid valve to plug into humidistat. set to 10-15 f below rh percentage number.
im shooting for 80-85 degree canopy so a 65-75 % R.H. for 1500 ppms co2.
100-250 per bucks per flowering room depending on accessaries =precise r.h. dialage
fake trinity. its not the real deal. its a frost factory but not the trinity
RH is one thing thats going to need incorporation into my room.
Definitely don't have good RH levels... Never over 55%.
Got all this down. I need to level some shit out today and then get really stoned and gather information , like catch up in this thread.
Thanks 10'
I was feeding at 5.8 ph this whole round. I guess I didn't let it drift to 6.3 or upwards because of the 2nd feed during lights on?
I was thinking I need to start flowering with a higher PH feed and then lower it as flowering continues to the 5.8 by week 5 or something.
Gotta figure it out
Definitely don't have good RH levels... Never over 55%.
Got all this down. I need to level some shit out today and then get really stoned and gather information , like catch up in this thread.
Thanks 10'
I was feeding at 5.8 ph this whole round. I guess I didn't let it drift to 6.3 or upwards because of the 2nd feed during lights on?
I was thinking I need to start flowering with a higher PH feed and then lower it as flowering continues to the 5.8 by week 5 or something.
Gotta figure it out
True bromance.......
Whoa edit. Bad info alert. I stated I was shooting for 10-15 f below rh %.. Other way around. Rh % should be 10-15 below your temp. Bod rule of thumb. Cheat equation. 85 degree canopy should be 70-75% rh.
