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great pic of little emerald lake j!

great pic of little emerald lake j!

Advantages of ETFE glazings or “F-CLEAN®”

More light- ETFE films are 94 % light transparent. This beats out clear glass and most polycarbonate glazings. In shady areas of the world 1% more light may result in 1% more ‘gain’ in terms of yield.
Dirt Resistance- The low surface tension of the film means that all it takes to clean the greenhouse is a shower of rain or snow. Snow slides off easier helps maintain optimum light.
Fire resistance- Like polycarbonate, ETFE films are self extinguishing material. ETFE, the base material from which F-CLEAN is made, is rated UL 94-0 by the Underwriters Laboratories Inc.
Improved crop quality- Unlike glass or polycarbonate glazings, F-CLEAN® allows the penetration of ultraviolet light, which has a positive effect on the quality of fruit and plants. Fruits ripen more quickly and develop a better color. Flowers gain more intense color. UV light also makes plants less susceptible to disease. If you want, you can add a UV-block option to the process of making ETFE glazings.
Anti Drip Characteristics- ETFE does not allow condensation to form which could drip onto the plants, fruit and flowers. Drops of condensation also reflect the sunlight, reducing incoming light.
Diffused light- F-CLEAN® is available in both clear and diffused versions. Diffused light tends to grow plants better by eliminating shadows.
Heat retention- if you use the optional double layered F-CLEAN® It will save more energy over single layer options. However, like any glazing, when you double or triple the layers, the amount of light entering the greenhouse is also reduced.
Durability-ETFE has an approx. life of 15 years but F-Clean® is guaranteed for 10 years like polycarbonate (also 10 years). However, there are many greenhouses that have been covered with ETFE films that are over 27 years old and still show no sign of deterioration. It just depends what the manufacture wants to guarantee. Some expect it to last as long as 50-60 years.
Strong enough to bear 400 times its own weight
25 to 50 times lighter than the other alternatives materials
It can be stretched to three times its length without loss of elasticity
a working temperature range of -300 °F to 300 °F
It Is recyclable

Downside to ETFE

Not readily available for home greenhouse growers (yet).
It is prone to punctures by sharp edges or a sharp impact (knife), but can be patched
Must be tensioned in order to function properly which requires specific types of mounting hardware.
Transmits more sound than glass.
It is usually applied in several layers that must be inflated and require steady air pressure thus working with ETFE is difficult for small building projects.


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Solexx PRO twinwall plastic panels are 5mm thick and made of high density polyethylene infused with UV inhibitors for a warrantied life of at least 10 years. Solexx panels provide a soft, diffused light allowing 70-75% of the natural light to pass through for optimal growing conditions. Best of all, these durable panels can be rolled up and shipped via small parcel service! Perfect for greenhouses, patios, architectural applications or anywhere rigid covering with a high light transmission is needed.
 
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CaliGabe

I'm really starting to like this living mulch (cover crop) thing...hay bales can rock too and another experiment this year...

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CaliGabe

Nice krustallos :biggrin:. My flower pics are a little different. Here's an outdoor girl that's starting to show some solid flower production. The stretch is over and most everything going off. Here's a Purple Pantera pheno #1. The #2 is better yet #1 flowering faster.

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I'm moving back to Cali in a week or two so no more updates for the gardens I've been helping with here. Another trip to Durango early next week then pretty much pack and go. Hope everyone has a great season!
 
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A little going away present from a neighbor...always wanted to sample Blue Heaven going back to about 1998. Snow's gear is VERY solid. His crosses really rock. Bringing these beans back to Cali for a friend to work with. I'm looking forward to getting a taste :biggrin:

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who dat is

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Has anybody else had Powdery Mildew make an appearance in light of all this rain and higher humidity? I'm encountering it for the first time with my grow now and don't really know how best to proceed from here. I'm looking into getting a dehumidifier and what to spray the plants with. I'm looking to hit this hard before it progresses anymore. My whole garden has been hit and I don't want to lose anything. Can y'all help me out on here or in my grow journal here, https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=276125&page=13

Thanks! :yes:
 

GreenintheThumb

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Spray your plants with Photosynthesis Plus, it has the same bacteria cultures that are in Cease/Serenade and Double Nickel that will fight off pm and it has phototrophic bacteria that increase your plants ability to process light. Double whammy!
 

who dat is

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Spray your plants with Photosynthesis Plus, it has the same bacteria cultures that are in Cease/Serenade and Double Nickel that will fight off pm and it has phototrophic bacteria that increase your plants ability to process light. Double whammy!

Thanks for the tip! I ended up running down to the store and getting Green Cure (Potassium Bicarbonate). I was all fired up to get serenade but was talked out of it for the fact that I'm far enough in flowering that it could affect taste and smell of the finished product. I didn't want to use neem oil for this same reason. I will however let my saturated soil dry out and next watering will be getting back on the emulsified neem oil drench as a systemic preventative. Would still love to hear of others similar experiences.

Thanks y'all! :yes:
 

aridbud

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A little going away present from a neighbor...always wanted to sample Blue Heaven going back to about 1998. Snow's gear is VERY solid. His crosses really rock. Bringing these beans back to Cali for a friend to work with. I'm looking forward to getting a taste :biggrin:

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Yeah, their Bluebonic is great. Love Snow High Seeds!
 

GreenintheThumb

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I haven't found bacteria to affect the taste of the herb. Potassium Bicarbonate products will burn all the pistils tho.
 

Jhhnn

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Our garden melons were annihilated by PM last season. The wife is now spraying them with a 50/50 mix of 2% milk & water once a week. Not a sign of it this year. Google <milk powdery mildew> for more info.
 
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CaliGabe

Thanks for the tip! I ended up running down to the store and getting Green Cure (Potassium Bicarbonate). I was all fired up to get serenade but was talked out of it for the fact that I'm far enough in flowering that it could affect taste and smell of the finished product. I didn't want to use neem oil for this same reason. I will however let my saturated soil dry out and next watering will be getting back on the emulsified neem oil drench as a systemic preventative. Would still love to hear of others similar experiences.

Thanks y'all! :yes:
Sodium bicarbonate, baking soda, would have performed the same task. Serenade does not affect the flavor of flowers and a few years back sprayed within 48 hours of harvesting. Serenade is simply a bacterial product in a low pH carrier. Smells a bit like vinegar yet no transfer to finished flowers IME.

Unhealthy plants get pests and diseases. You're probably low on Ca for starters and foliar a great way to go with something like Albion amino acid chelate, Ca-25 or even PHT Calcium during veg and early flower. By the time you see PM showing up a bit late for nutritive support like that and then you're actually in band-aid mode.
 
Sodium bicarbonate, baking soda, would have performed the same task. Serenade does not affect the flavor of flowers and a few years back sprayed within 48 hours of harvesting. Serenade is simply a bacterial product in a low pH carrier. Smells a bit like vinegar yet no transfer to finished flowers IME.

Unhealthy plants get pests and diseases. You're probably low on Ca for starters and foliar a great way to go with something like Albion amino acid chelate, Ca-25 or even PHT Calcium during veg and early flower. By the time you see PM showing up a bit late for nutritive support like that and then you're actually in band-aid mode.
Agree with CaliGabe. Especially the last sentence. My experience with PM was nothing got rid of it except Eagle 20 and Serenade as a second treatment to follow up. Have not had any issues once the mother plants were treated and new clones were taken from those plants. Did have a blue dream that never got any even though everything else had it. So some strains just don't get it. Usually it is the herpies of plants that spreads like wildfire. This late in flower after week two I'd not use eagle 20 and most don't like to use it but it is sestemic and does stop it from continuing to come back. Just don't use it in flower and wear a resperator if you do spray it. Takes 6 weeks or more to work out of the plant.

As for snow high seeds they do have some fire. Run a nice burmese x abusive OG that is awesome called General HO. The crystal on one of the pheno's is outstanding. Nice effect of no anexity from the burmese side.
 

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Seaf0ur, anybody else recognize this little creature?

Any chance they are fungus gnat larva? Some reading indicated they could be. Still have very few gnats, but nothing like I had previously. Have been hitting the soil with BTI with every water and using sticky strips and numbers are down to maybe 5-10% of peak which wasn't really all that bad.

Found a few lurking on the back of some leaves. No obvious damage at the moment.
 

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MHBGuy

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So googled "fungas gnat larvae" and think we have a winner!

Thoughts on spraying with BTI at this point 25 -30 days left to flower?
 

GreenintheThumb

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Fungus gnat larvae live in the soil and feed on roots not on leaf. You'll see them wiggling around when you water.

Those are likely thrip larvae. Use conserve sc / monteray garden spray
 

Jhhnn

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Seaf0ur, anybody else recognize this little creature?

Any chance they are fungus gnat larva? Some reading indicated they could be. Still have very few gnats, but nothing like I had previously. Have been hitting the soil with BTI with every water and using sticky strips and numbers are down to maybe 5-10% of peak which wasn't really all that bad.

Found a few lurking on the back of some leaves. No obvious damage at the moment.

Looks like western flower thrips-

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=61807
 

who dat is

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Thanks for all the feedback on the Powdery Mildew guys! I especially appreciate the feedback on the Serenade. It will be good to give the PM the one, two punch combo.

Fungus gnat larvae live in the soil and feed on roots not on leaf. You'll see them wiggling around when you water.

Those are likely thrip larvae. Use conserve sc / monteray garden spray

I would second the Monteray Garden Spray (Spinosad). Will take care of them no problem
 

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Anybody have any experience with this stuff regarding overall plant health, vigor, and disease resistance?

http://grow-better.com/axiom-harpin-proteins/

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AXIOM Harpin Proteins

AXIOM Harpin Proteins are a Plant Health Promoter and Plant Growth Stimulator that activates a plant’s growth and defense genes resulting in improved plant growth, increased yield and quality, and greater shelf-life. Axiom is the next generation Harpin Proteins originally found in Messenger® manufactured by Eden Bioscience. Harpin Proteins are produced in nature by certain bacterial plant pathogens and plants develop receptors on their seeds, roots, and foliage to detect the presence of Harpin Proteins which triggers an “early warning system” leading to increased plant yields and health. Axiom has extensive research and has multi-year University and field tested results on a variety of different crops.

• Increased Yields: yield increases of 10 – 30% in vegetable crops
• Improved Plant Health: Reduction of nematodes by an average of 50%
• Increased Shelf Life: Increases shelf life of fresh cut vegetables by 5-7 days
• Accelerate Plant Development: Increased roots, fruit size & number; early flowering, fruit set, fruit maturation
 
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