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Anyone help with this bug ID? Got a photo..

lilac.rain

Member
Found this little fucker underneath a disc in my ezcloner. The cuts all got a forbid dunk before they were placed to there is a systemic poison still in. any ideas? he's about the size of a grain of rice.
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

I have fungus gnats right now and some of the bigger ones I catch on the fly trap look like him with the striping. I think it's a life stage but I could be wrong. each life stage looks different. what concerns me the most is the clearish ellictical things on its head. last time I saw that, it was broad mites attacking a fungus gnats. They are how a couple of bugs travel around an infect new hosts. But this was in your rez floating dead? I've only had them in soil. I know that root aphids live in hydro and they have flyers similar to fungus gnats but at the tail end is more bulbous and there are two pointy things that are prominent by the flyer stage coming out of each side of the bulbous end. fungus gnats will have a head and then have a figure 8 curve that goes in in the middle instead of being bulbous like the root aphid. take some pics of the new growth under the leaves by the meri stem with a GOOD microscope (60-100x) and see if you see broad mites. if you can't find anything then don't worry about the clearish blobs. from your pic, it's hard to see how the body is connected. you can also check your roots out with your scope, to see if root aphids are on there to rule that out. I'm thinking he just got in your rez and drowned but he had broad mites on him. again, I could be wrong but here's another bump to see if someone else can help ya out.

I recently freaked out over an infestation mis identifying stuff and basically ruined everything over applying Nuke Em. So stay calm and take your time to identify before you treat it. I'm hoping it's just a fungus gnat and a blurry part of the pic.
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

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FUNGUS GNATS I CAUGHT. ONE WAS BIGGER THAN THE OTHER AND I'M ASSUMING A DIFFERENT LIFE STAGE. THE POINTY END IS THE BEST SIGN I HEAR TO IDENTIFY ALONG WITH FINDING TWO CONICLES THAT LOOK LIKE HORNS OUT OF EACH SIDE AT THE END OF THE BULB.
 

lilac.rain

Member
thanks for the advice guys, i too have gone through the broad mite excursion a few times this year. Moved and started from scratch, and still bleached the fuck out of everything. Broadmites would be dead, the plants still have bayer forbid in them so any mite will die after feeding, but on a positive note the cuts are swarming with swirski's (which is my favorite method for broad mites) as I've caught them in my scope weeks later feeding off sap of broken branches. the Microscope I'm using is pretty nice, its the gro1 100-300x and it works really well on my computer. THe body is very different than a root aphid or a fungs gnat, i inpected and i think he was lost. does kinda look like a cicadah. By the way DD i love nukem, but it does fuck with my plants every time i use them. Maybe you were seeing sessile glands? i made the same mistake. broad mite eggs at 200x you can see the dots on the eggs and the oval shape extremely well. Remember those seeds you told me not to put in the ppk? they loved it. no burnt seedlings. the ppk thing goes against so many things I've learned as a grower for the last ten years but it is amazing! i got a minor in soil science and now i use salts. go figure.
 

lilac.rain

Member
i dont recall seeing those clear spots on him but he was almost a quarter inch long so id imagine those would be visible to the naked eye
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

the clear spots were on his head on the left side of the pic.

and you really didn't fry those seedlings? that goes against everything I've ever learned and with beans being so spendy, I haven't risked trying. how is ppk growing different? I love to scrog flat but never tried vertical. what happens to the buds on the other side that doesn't have the scrog and light? do they just grow towards the light? that must be insane to watch it grow like that.
 

lilac.rain

Member
it is crazy! the light gets reflected so many times in a room it always grows evenly. I set up the rooms with the lights like an X and plants like an 0
X 0 X
0 X 0
X 0 X

keeping plant numbers down and getting 2 maybe 3 a plant.
heres the seedlings in the system

once its dialed its completely unrestricted plant growth.
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

oh I see now with the lights. that is a neat concept but I don't know if I'm up for the challenge. I do however want to know about your seedlings and how that system works. is that just straight vermiculite?
 

lilac.rain

Member
I use turface. its a type of clay that is used for baseball diamonds. I have also had good success with pumice. Low CEC's make them wonderful coming from coco. Two salts never a need for ph. Roots buffer them anywhere between 5.1-6.2 and stabilizes. Not a spot on any plant ever, as long as you have pest/environment/disease under control., cuts will root in the same solution that my flowers get that get taken down that way. I changed my res to plain water the last few weeks and there was no compatible taste difference to the stuff that was not flushed. 150$ of this food will last months indoors, maybe a half a year sometimes running twenty lamps. The water temperature can be high as hell too, no need for chillers because the roots are flooded and not sitting in water there is no need for dissolved oxygen in the water, the roots get it when the table drains pulling air on top of them. Im trying it outside this year for the first time, these lanky cuts saw their first day of sun june 18th


and now this was taken today. Quite an amazing veg for 40+/- days
 
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DoubleDDsNuggs

oh it's a little ebb and flow set up! i saw the water but it looked muddy but that would be the clay huh? i ran a ebb and flow hydro and my temps got up to 72F at times but averaged about 68F while using dutchmaster zone and i still got root rot. used air pumps and the whole nine yards.
 

bombadil.360

Andinismo Hierbatero
Veteran
holy cow lilac, that plant is huge for only 40 days of veg... was it a cutting or from seed? if from a cut, how many nodes did it have when you placed outdoors some 40 days ago?

did you find out what the bug finally was?

peace!
 
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