R/O water or not?

[mliokv48]

Using Nectar for the Gods and either coco forest or coco air max medium. Anyone know what differences are. I will be running to waste.

 

[mliokv48]

Should I be adding cal mag to water I have been using 2 tsp gal Epsom salt. Looked like mag def. nectar for the gods nutes. Tap has been 7.1 50 ppm

 

[Swampwater]

If using coco then yes you'll prob need to add additional cal mag(with any line of nutes). Can't diagnose without seeing them but try adding 2-5ml cal mag and see if they bounce back.

If your using nector for Gods(or any organic), then RO is the prefered way to go. Seeing as how your tap water is good(same numbers as mine), you could also get away with bubbling out the chlorine for 48-72hrs.
I prefer to do that, as it's a lot less wasteful. I'm not big one wasting fresh water, it's our most valuable asset.


If you're doing a small grow you can just go fill 5gal water bottles at grocery store. (But that's a pain for any sizable garden).

 

[10ftGanja]

What if his water has chloramine instead of chlorine?
Coco doesn't need additional calcium if hes using a complete base nute.
IF he did have a mag deficiency why would he need calmag?
Hes already using Epsom, so its probably something else

 

[stasis]

For some reason I cannot explain, contrary to the directions from H & G... I find the best results with 50 50 RO and bubbled tap. My water is similar to yours. ppm wise and pH wise.
I use 2 ml Calimagic from GH and have had good results, after some tweaking.

 

[Bueno Time]

Using Nectar for the Gods and either coco forest or coco air max medium. Anyone know what differences are. I will be running to waste.

Which particular products are you using?

NFTG is a calcium based line if you used Herculean Harvest (liquid bone meal based, calcium phosphate), Demeters Destiny (liquid calcium based, cant remember which calcium), and Olympus up (liquid calcium carbonate I believe). If you are using those products you will have plenty of available calcium. I would use RO water with it being an organic based line of nutes, its what I used anyway though my tap water is 575-625ppm out of the faucet!

I ran a sample box last run of 1 qt each Gaia Mania, Medusa Magic, Herculean Harvest, Demeters Destiny, Athenas Aminas, and Zeus Juice, with a small bottle of Bloom Khaos and Olympus up (for ph up and addeds another form of calcium to the nute mix).

They preformed pretty decent for me good yield just over 1 GPW, very nice looking buds, highly frosted, smell good, very smooth smoking but lacking the flavor Im used to (so far only that is its only 2 weeks cure so give them another 6 weeks I will know for sure by then the quality).

I was getting better flavors with living organic soil and supplementing with small amounts of Canna Bio Flores in flower, not quite as frosty as the NTFG buds though but very tasty and stinkier. I am back to using the Bio Flores again this round for what its worth.

Good luck with your grow.

 

[mliokv48]

Titans Trowl is supposed to add to taste. And there is another one to include with hh for flush. I am using same ones outdoor right now although I will also be using mega Morpheus as we'll.

 

[Snow Crash]

The Nectar of the God's line is built around the Gaia Mana. You need that bottle, it is essentially the "base" for this line. Medusa's Magic would be the second part of this base formula, offering a little more minerality than the Gaia Mana. The Zeus Juice is the final part of their nutrition program, acting as a catalyst (chelate) to facilitate uptake.

If you don't have these 3 bottles then you're not "really" running Nectar for the Gods.

After these three products there are a few supplements to consider adding.

The Aphrodite's Extraction is your carbohydrate source to improve microbe health and activity. Definitely worth having something that fits this niche in your grow room, whether it's this product, Molasses, Botanicare Sweet Raw, or another product - you're going to see improved growth by supporting your microbes.

Demeter's Destiny is also a good product to make sure you have around.

Oregon Only Organics recommends to our gardeners that before you attempt to correct the deficiency do a thorough flush with Herculean Harvest and give your plant a day or two to respond. If leaf curl or leaf twist with a minor tip browning are still occurring then increase the dosage of Demeterʼs Destiny for multiple feedings or until the problem is resolved.

From the sound of things, you might have a deficiency which the Manufacturer is aware occurs, and this is their solution. I don't know about doing a flush with steamed bone meal though... I'd probably go with the Gaia in the corrective flush over the Herculean for my own garden, but then again, maybe they know something about their own products that I'm missing . The Herculean is Bone meal (Calcium Phosphate) while the Demeter is just Calcium Phosphate mineral, kind of redundant if you ask me.

Bloom supplements Bloom Khaos (kelp/K), and Poseidonzime (more kelp/K).
Growth supplements include Herculean Harvest, Mega Morpheus (guano tea+kelp), Pegasus Potion (N), and Athena's Animas (aminos).

These 6 supplements are COMPLETELY unnecessary to grow a plant. Yeah, maybe when the factors are just dialed in. All the genetics and environment, the soil and base nutrients, just totally kicking. That's when these other supplements make their marginal differences. But, for this system to really work, you kind of need the 5 bottle approach.

Part A - Organic nutrition (Gaia)
Part B - Mineral nutrition (Medusa)
Part C - Chelate/Uptake (Zeus)
Part D - Carbohydrates (Aphrodite)
Part E - Calcium (Demeter)

 

[mliokv48]

Thanks for info.