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Propane & Propane Accessories....

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Permacultuure

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The last month, maybe two we started playing around with pure pane, and all blends in between. While the dabs are great, the final product has less than an acceptable presentation.

I'm hoping to spark some real conversation up in this watered down honey hole!!

Heres a few things to spark some discussion.

Anybody doing pho??
Can we low temp purge pho since its a lighter molecule?



Anybody running blended gas?
Can we determine what our ratio is from a lbs/temp/presssure equstion?

Personally I only like using propane as a propellant, adding pressure and a shade lighter in the finished product. When running pure pane i have problems creating stability in the final product. Anybody else running mixed gases? or pure pane? Would live to hear your input.

"My dad says butanes a bastard gas"
 
Lono

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H'what has taken so long for this thread :) ?

I haven't heard of anyone using pure pane yet. Have had the pleasure of trying some PHO that was ~30% butane(had to hunt for that ;)) and I have to agree with you, dabs were great but lacked in aesthetics.

A lot of it kind of looks like waxed up bho, but lighter...to me at least. My theory is they're not purging low enough. Propane has a stupid low BP, so I am quite curious what the ideal purge temps would be.


Subbed :). Thanks for making this permaculture!
 
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Permacultuure

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I agree with low temp purge. I'm going to play around with that once I get through this pile of work. I have ran pure pane a few times. The times when the tank was only on ice i saw pressure between 60-70 psi. This makes me nervous.....When on dry ice the pressures were much lower
 
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Permacultuure

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daub - It has an oily consistency, not very "handleable", this is most likely due to the purging process. I have whipped it and created a slightly more stable wax but it has that sugar wax look.....
 
Daub Marley

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Permacultuure said:
daub - It has an oily consistency, not very "handleable", this is most likely due to the purging process. I have whipped it and created a slightly more stable wax but it has that sugar wax look.....
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Does it have a stronger than normal smell of the original herb? Because if you retain most of the terpenes it will be sticky/gummy. That's a good thing! You could just cool it a bit in the freezer if needed.
BTW how did you find pure propane? Most of the time it has added mercaptans that are almost impossible to remove.
 
HG23

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You guys heard of lunchboxalchemy? They are on IG and have some very nice looking PHO. I'm not really sure how to help this topic, but maybe one of you more experienced extractors can glean some information from their feed.
 
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JColtrane

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seen lunchbox, they're outta Bend Oregon ... Regis said when he spoke with them at the DFO in Eugene a few weeks back, they had stablity problems too (and they process's in dry ass Bend, OR).

I'd really like to see some winterized PHO, vac'd using a TVO-2 and the welch setup. Maybe some R&D Permacultuure ... TVO-2's on it's way ;)
 
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Daub Marley said:
Does it have a stronger than normal smell of the original herb? Because if you retain most of the terpenes it will be sticky/gummy. That's a good thing! You could just cool it a bit in the freezer if needed.
BTW how did you find pure propane? Most of the time it has added mercaptans that are almost impossible to remove.
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So far I have been using ecogreens propane, distilled. I have had better luck than others on what I've found after distillation so I feel fine with it. Coltranes got the connect ;) so hopefully i can get a praxair tank and play around with it too.

Your right about the terps, and yes its terp rich and very tasty, nose hair burning rich. I am hoping to find the right purging process in order to have a terp rich yet "handelable" product that is easy to package. Paying for packaging this sticky/gummy product quickly begins to eat away my margins bc it can be so time consuming.

Lunchbox Alchemy has there PHO game dialed for sure. I got to sample some and it was top notch. Hopefully this thread will help us all get there :)
 
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JColtrane said:
seen lunchbox, they're outta Bend Oregon ... Regis said when he spoke with them at the DFO in Eugene a few weeks back, they had stablity problems too (and they process's in dry ass Bend, OR).

I'd really like to see some winterized PHO, vac'd using a TVO-2 and the welch setup. Maybe some R&D Permacultuure ... TVO-2's on it's way ;)
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Well I'm glas I'm not the only one.....ProPain ;)
 
Daub Marley

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Permacultuure said:
Your right about the terps, and yes its terp rich and very tasty, nose hair burning rich. I am hoping to find the right purging process in order to have a terp rich yet "handelable" product that is easy to package. Paying for packaging this sticky/gummy product quickly begins to eat away my margins bc it can be so time consuming.
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The terpenes are non-polar and act as a solvent which makes the extract sticky and gummy. That's an inherent disadvantage to retaining such a large % of terpenes. I'd say to just sell package and recommend the product is kept cold at all times. Before you sold product that could sit on a shelf, now your product must remain in the fridge.
 
Chonkski

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What about waxes and plant material with pane? Does it pick up the same amount? Is using dry ice and denatured alcohol more necessary with pane?

And what's it like to winterize pho? Would that make it more malleable(even though ridding it of terps)?


Wow, after looking at lunchboxalchemy on IG, I fell in love with the idea.. So easy to purge with the low BP and all..

Would definitely need high pressure seals and so on when using propane
 
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Permacultuure

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Its definitely a less aggressive solvent, so the yeilds are a bit lower and less undesirables are extracted for sure.

Regis pointed out that these 12" spools are not right for the job...considering the pressure rating is so low. 8" and under seem to be the answer....
 
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