The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Madjag]

those are some nice guerrilla plants overgrown! that blue dream seed is probably gonna go be the biggest yielder.

DHF- i charter a small plane every season to check out whats going on, i would have to argue against some of your rhetoric. for one, still plenty of open sun full term gardens around, especially in my county, i would say GH production is maybe only 25%, although its for sure growing and it is the wave of the future that i intend to get involved. also, not everyone is growing massive plants, from my flybys last year over 50% of gardens were smaller sized plants including a lot of my own plots. i see a lot of herb come down from my friends gardens who have massive plants and most of it is very good quality, way better than the mid grade stuff flooding the country every winter. even the machine trimmed green cracks are sold as high grade in other markets due to its great smell, mature resin heads, its better smoke than commercial beaster indoors. overall i would say that your assessment is mostly generalizations, that may apply to some areas of CA but not all.

Also, the main reason people grow plants this big is due to plant count limits and to maximize yield. Otherwise if i could grow 100s of plants of course i would rather grow a bunch of 2-3lb plants because they are easier to maintain and take care of. And of course i would rather have a auto-dep greenhouse so i can pull down multiple harvests, but when one looks at the investment costs needed for that venture, or the alternative of paying a crew to pull tarps, then sometimes a lot of folks just say fuck it and go full term. If i didn't blow most of my wad on a new indoor facility i would have definitely built a auto dep greenhouse, and i do believe that will be the main avenue of production in the future market. but for now full term still dominates heavily, NorCal OD production is the barometer for the entire national market and dictates prices all across the country. I know there are plenty of guys doing it in other places but just not on this scale and level. My county has 5000 outdoor grows and we aren't even part of the Emerald Triangle! You should definitely charter a plane and fly over the NorCal mountains it will blow your mind!

Hey Prop,

I really appreciate your candid and open response. Your skill is most evident and admirable.

I know what you mean concerning the numbers and how you would rather be growing more smaller yield plants that would be easier to handle.

When my partner and I grew two guerrilla gardens with a total of 115 lbs back in 1979, we had something like 275 girls averaging 6.8 oz each. It was simple to cut and hang plants of that size and trim/manicure them. Timing their harvest was very optimum because their size was not overwhelming. Harvesting 6 ten-pounders when your hands are full would not be easy to accommodate.

It is mind-boggling that there are over 5,000 grows in your county and yet your county isn't officially in the Emerald Triangle. I spent time in Redway and Shelter Cove in 1973-1974 and believe it or not the growers were already terracing the forest thereabouts although on a very small and ecological scale.

Our bros and sistas involved in growing the Sacred Herb have to step above the unconscious teachings they have inherited from their elders. Capitalism is groovy in many ways, however sustainability kicks its ass.

"Live simply that others may simply live".

Peace,
Madjag

 

[Yes4Prop215]

^crazy respect man growing guerrilla back in 1979 that is about as cool as it gets! but yeah i would much rather grow big beds filled with smaller plants and just scrog them all, i was out in my garden today just standing in total dumbfuck awe at how i was going to have to bring out ladders and balance them on the terrace to get up and pick these damn plants…i guess having 12 ft+ plants is one of those "good problems" but it is for sure going to be a fuckton of work!

 

[Madjag]

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Respect for being in. The game when that was the look.

 

[TheRealHash]

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no nutrient line drenches, no ca foliars, no ppd, no chems - i'm not trying to say this is the best or biggest plant out there, i know there are bigger ones, just saying that you can get plants like this without spending money on these products that seem to always be being discussed and pushed. just mix a good soil up front and water it well and it will come alive derp

Boobs is boobs yo

 

[Bo Hasset]

I just smoked some D.O.G from my depot.

Why it's so hoarded is beyond me... don't get me wrong. It has been the strain that had constantly amazed me and lived up to it's hype since right at Mid- June when It took off for me. I've been wishing I'd done more every single day. I have pics from the 17th of June that I looked at tonight that blew ME away they were so tiny only a month ago. Definitely a fun plant to grow and watch and (knock on wood) unless it totally sucks come 1st week of October, then I think I'm in for some moderately large plants that are the shit when smoked. My life sucks. I'm going to take the camera into the garden again tomorrow to take some comparisons, and plan on popping my pic "cherry" by this time tomorrow. Wish me luck.

WTF is D.O.G for real? I've heard anything and everything... most often Bubba x SSH or Sour D x Afghani #1... does anyone really know. I wish more D.O.G love could be given. Let's see all the cool kid's pictures of the D.O.G... it's such a beautiful and unique looking plant. I'm glad it found me.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

Not sure ho hoarded so,etching is that you can walk in to a club and buy cuts of.

Most people just can't get her to sing or she her,s on people.

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

those are some nice guerrilla plants overgrown! that blue dream seed is probably gonna go be the biggest yielder.

Ended up being a MALE me thinks, so maybe it was a BD hybrid X?
Gonna have to cut it down and spear chuck him into the woods.
It was so tall I kinda had an incling it was male.
Its kinda blocking the light to the GG#4 behind it, being so much taller, so its not a total waiste to chop it...I guess.
Ended up with 2 males from reg seed. That BlueDream and a (GrapeApe x OGKush) X (Sweetooth x Blueberry).

I have 3 plants from fem seed I made, the GrandoggyApe OG's.
Will just have to watch those for any ballsacks in the pre-flower areas, and the inside bottoms of all budsites.
The other 9 are from clone moms. Im kinda mad at myself for waisting 2 spots on males. That could have been a 6 - 10lb mistake?

 

[goldcountryguy2]

Is epic orchard boobs?

no, no mounds here, just cedar beds and a few pots.

 

[milkyjoe]

a couple of questions

a couple of questions

Is anyone succesfully using irrometers to control their irrigation? If yes do you mind sharing brand and how you have it set up?

And let's say you suck at planning and have some plants close to rootbound. Is hacking the center out of the plant as effective as Butte style topping to balance root/shoot...or is there something really special about auxins in tops? Will Co save you?

 

[yortbogey]

this thread can truly be AMAZING...when folks just work for the common goal.... large gorgeous ladies...... and sharing the truth of there efforts........really is onelove....

 

[epicorchard]

I benefit from 100-115 degree days with low humidity at 20-30% so I have yet to find what over watering looks like. I shoot for 60-80 gallons a day per plant. Since my goal is to give each plant as much as possible, I find little use for an irrometer. Monster plants consume in sane amounts of water.

 

[milkyjoe]

I benefit from 100-115 degree days with low humidity at 20-30% so I have yet to find what over watering looks like. I shoot for 60-80 gallons a day per plant. Since my goal is to give each plant as much as possible, I find little use for an irrometer. Monster plants consume in sane amounts of water.

Do you use a potting type soil with lots of drainage or a heavier top soil based dirt? I agree you cannot overwater potting soil in high temp low himidity dituations. But you can with heavier top soils...and that might be a huge advantage as water becomes more scarce.

 

[Bulldog420]

Top soil is hard to water evenly. Too much top soil in a blend also compacts the soil imo. Peat seems to work great for water holding capacity and a sponge like capillary action that makes watering easier.

 

[greentreefarmer]

Wow 60-80 gallons of h20 per day seems like a lot of water usage. I water my mounds every 3-4 days and even then I dont think they're getting close to that amount of water. They've never showed to be too thirsty either, and they're pretty big also. I've mulched my mounds with shredded trees though. They keep the mounds nice and cool and I think they help distribute the water more evenly. I also think they help to provide nutrients to the soil as it breaks down, but that may be causing me a slough of other issues in the future. My first guess is that it may be throwing my potassium levels out of wack, causing a Mg lockout in some. A true soil test will confirm whats going on.

Anyways, I'll be here awaiting for the pros to tell me how crazy I am.

 

[cheezhead]

Wow 60-80 gallons of h20 per day seems like a lot of water usage. I water my mounds every 3-4 days and even then I dont think they're getting close to that amount of water. They've never showed to be too thirsty either, and they're pretty big also. I've mulched my mounds with shredded trees though. They keep the mounds nice and cool and I think they help distribute the water more evenly. I also think they help to provide nutrients to the soil as it breaks down, but that may be causing me a slough of other issues in the future. My first guess is that it may be throwing my potassium levels out of wack, causing a Mg lockout in some. A true soil test will confirm whats going on.

Anyways, I'll be here awaiting for the pros to tell me how crazy I am.

No shit! When I first joined this site, I was blown away at how much people are watering there plants. Ironically, StankDank and I were talking about that in his post a few days ago. It seems there are different views. Mine are in raised boxes, and seem to be pretty dry on a daily basis. Especially with the latest heat wave. I have killer drainage in my soil and water everyday in this heat, but don't need to when it's cooler. I also don't water more than 15g per day per plant. I'm curious...Mendo420 how much are you watering your plants per day?

 

[Yes4Prop215]

today was the first day in the last 2 months i skipped a watering…it was overcast all morning and even had some light showers, mounds were still soaked to the top by afternoon so i think il let them skip today.

 

[mr.shiva]

Check 1, check 2, check 1 .... Is this thing on?


Shrubs

 

[mr.shiva]

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Round 2

 

[mr.shiva]

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Just nothing...mostly weed