Lets talk clear rez uc roots hyperchlorous acid chlorine

[macdiesel]

Didn't know where else to post this, so it's in this forum.

So, let's clear a few things up. Hypochlorous acid is the active ingredient in both CLEAR REZ and UC ROOTS.

Hypochlorous acid is basically chlorine.

Clear rez and ez clone will hate that I'm reposting this, but y'all should know that you can make clear rez for pennies with pool shock. It's exactly the same thing.

http://www.rollitup.org/t/make-2200-worth-of-clear-rez-for-4.423650/

Does anyone know the dilution rate to make UC ROOTS oout of pool shock? Thanks in advance! Peace and happiness.

 

[macdiesel]

32 views and nothing but crickets? C'mon peeps

 

[Granger2]

OK. I don't know. Compare percentages of active ingredient. Good luck. -granger

 

[Treetroit City]

32 views and nothing but crickets? C'mon peeps

Kind of old news around here. Here is a nice 18 page thread about it. Lots of info for ya to read.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=219683

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Good find MacDiesel. Suggested rate for hypochlorous acid is 1 gram per gallon of water.

FYI calcium hypochlorite turns into hypochlorous acid in water which is not chlorine, but does have chlorine as part of it's chemical makeup. Hypochlorous acid is also the main acid the human body's immune system produces to fight disease. I personally have used it in capsule form as an immune booster when I've gotten sick.

Added to the rez it is very effective at keeping pathogens away.

 

[macdiesel]

OK. I don't know. Compare percentages of active ingredient. Good luck. -granger

Yeah, not sure what the percentage is in uc roots. I know clear rez is little like 0.0027 or something.

Kind of old news around here. Here is a nice 18 page thread about it. Lots of info for ya to read.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=219683

Thanks Third! I usually search like hell before posting, I appreciate the link! I'll take some time and read it all.

Good find MacDiesel. Suggested rate for hypochlorous acid is 1 gram per gallon of water.

FYI calcium hypochlorite turns into hypochlorous acid in water which is not chlorine, but does have chlorine as part of it's chemical makeup. Hypochlorous acid is also the main acid the human body's immune system produces to fight disease. I personally have used it in capsule form as an immune booster when I've gotten sick.

Added to the rez it is very effective at keeping pathogens away.

Thanks Scrappy. I'm not sure why nobody is using chloramines in their product. (chlorine/ammonia) Chlorine gasses off in a few hours where chloramines stay in water for a very long time. I'm not sure if hypochlorous acid gasses off as quickly as chlorine.

 

[CoCoColaClassic]

I've found the goal to be 0.5 - 2 ppm free chlorine. Pool shocks products are sold in % Free chlorine.

If you ever want ppm from %, multiply by 10,000 ppm/%

50% Free chlorine = 500,000 ppm free chlorine
60% Free chlorine = 600,000 ppm free chlorine
70% Free chlorine = 700,000 ppm free chlorine


I'm not sure on UC Roots concentration, but Clear Rez seems to have you yield approx 0.25 ppm free chlorine. Maybe 0.25 is enough, I use around 1 ppm every few days.

 

[CoCoColaClassic]

I've found the goal to be 0.5 - 2 ppm free chlorine. Pool shocks products are sold in % Free chlorine.

If you ever want ppm from %, multiply by 10,000 ppm/%

50% Free chlorine = 500,000 ppm free chlorine
60% Free chlorine = 600,000 ppm free chlorine
70% Free chlorine = 700,000 ppm free chlorine


I'm not sure on UC Roots concentration, but Clear Rez seems to have you yield approx 0.25 ppm free chlorine. Maybe 0.25 is enough, I use around 1 ppm every few days.

I'm finding that Clear Rez is about 2800 - 4000 ppm of something other than hypochlorous acid.

Strength wise, it's ~57 ppm free chlorine, but there's a LOT of other minerals in there such that it yields a 25 ppm concentration of other mineral salts. CLear rez has other ingredient.

 

[BubbaBear]

Mac Diesel- I believe Dutch Masters Zone is a chloramine product if thats what your looking for.

 

[CoCoColaClassic]

Mac Diesel- I believe Dutch Masters Zone is a chloramine product is thats what your looking for.

I thought dm zone was a mineral salt like copper sulfate or something??

 

[BubbaBear]

I thought dm zone was a mineral salt like copper sulfate or something??

Maybe your right I haven't looked at zone since the black bottle days, back then it was chloramine, maybe they took chloramine out of the gold bottle formula.

 

[CoCoColaClassic]

Admittedly, i'm do t have solid knowledge on DM
Products, just got in my head somewhere that zone had CuSO4

 

[Stay Frosty]

I was having trouble getting a free chlorine reading when used with a nute that uses ammonium nitrate.

 

[CoCoColaClassic]

I was having trouble getting a free chlorine reading when used with a nute that uses ammonium nitrate.

Hey frosty, I'm having a similar result every time I add the part A of my base nute the chlorine immediately leaves solution. B vitamin supplements, rooting hormones, potassium silicates and the B part of base nutrients don't cause the chlorine to disappear (ie evaporate as chlorine gas).

This is a bummer because I want the micro nutrients that are in the part A of base bloom nutes, but cant effectively add them because of this evaporation of chlorine.

 

[CoCoColaClassic]

I was having trouble getting a free chlorine reading when used with a nute that uses ammonium nitrate.

Frosty, just discovered that you are absolutely correct. ALL PRODUCTS w/ Ammonia will cause chlorine to vaporize out of solution as Chlorine gas.

I used pH down by GH and it cuased chlorine to leave solution--from 5 ppm Free Cl- to ZERO.

I then checked there MSDS, and, sure enough, there's ammonium phosphate (...along w/ Phosphric acid and citric acid).

I then tried Advanced Nutrient's pH-Down (which is purely Phosphoric acid) and had the pH at 5.1 w/ little loss of free chlorine...went from 5 ppm to about 3 or so and is holding steady.

So let your chlorine solution circulate before adding ammonia containing suppliment or GH pH down.

 

[Stay Frosty]

Frosty, just discovered that you are absolutely correct. ALL PRODUCTS w/ Ammonia will cause chlorine to vaporize out of solution as Chlorine gas.

I used pH down by GH and it cuased chlorine to leave solution--from 5 ppm Free Cl- to ZERO.

I then checked there MSDS, and, sure enough, there's ammonium phosphate (...along w/ Phosphric acid and citric acid).

I then tried Advanced Nutrient's pH-Down (which is purely Phosphoric acid) and had the pH at 5.1 w/ little loss of free chlorine...went from 5 ppm to about 3 or so and is holding steady.

So let your chlorine solution circulate before adding ammonia containing suppliment or GH pH down.

Awesome! I'll give that a shot.

 

[dazzerx2000]

How do you guys feel about chloramines instead of chlorine as they have a similar effect and stay in the res allot longer than chlorine and only really leave the res when they break down into chlorine, water and ammonia. Im currently going to give them a try as i suffer from high res temps in summer which makes chlorine useless as it leaves the water very quickly under high temps and aeration, the high temps are not enough to be a big problem for the plants as i use flood and drain and plants seem to be more forgiving with that type of hydroponics say over DWC when temps come to mind, but root rot loves high temps.