The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Diggaz]

Magic maybe? All plant food must be listed.

 

[Diggaz]

Sorry not sure how to edit post, there could be some non plant food ingredients in there like bennies maybe. That being said I bet I know what the 1# ingredient in all those bottles is....water. Not saying they are not good, gamechangeing...hardly, they should offer up powder versions.

 

[Backyard Farmer]

@diggaz 2 parts of the biological advantage program are in fact. Powders,

You're correct , magic non plant food ingredients...terpenes , phytoalexins , energized water...

 

[milkyjoe]

I hear that and works, if balanced, yet think you're missing out. Reppin2c dealing with some stoopid high soil K levels, imbalance really. Best we can figure the fairly local soil blending company/provider ripped off his bonemeal and fooked his soil up. If it wasn't for the foliar program I helped him with he'd be screwed. He's now on a 5 day Ca foliar rotation program to compensate. Probably one of the better growers I've run across. Doesn't have a puter so I'll have to post pics for him next time we have dinner.

Are the probs top or bottom leaves? If Ca is the problem it would be top leaves since Ca is not mobile. Bottom leaf would be a mobile element. Nova crop control has a good graphic in one of their presentations

What kind of N level did the soil have? CaNO3 mighy just be the quicker fixer upper for your buddies prob unless he promises to be for real organic...combine it with some carbon source, preferrably fulvic and it won't bother the microbes at all...or a chicken shit tea if he wants to stay organic

 

[milkyjoe]

@diggaz...2 points
Aea's process probably involves water. Guessing to get down to the micron level they do takes ball milling...dry ball milling is a bitch and would contaminate the product with Al. 2...some of the products it is the unique combination of elements that make them work e.g. photomag...mg to drive chlorophyll production combined with Mo to support the nitrate reductase enzyme and Co to support cytokinin dominance.

 

[HorseMouth]

Today.

Haze/Skunk cross. Good to light dep the Haze, so it can get the full 70 days in acceptable weather and finish properly.


Chernobyl. Took the place of Blue Dream.


Close up Chernobyl.


Pics, or it didn't happen.

Peace

 

[furrywall11]

ewsf out of gas?

ewsf out of gas?

My plants in ewsf soil that I got in April were turning pale so I got a soil test done and the results are very surprising. When I got the soil I was told I wouldn't need to anything--just water--I was even told by the proprietor not to use PPD.

Anyways....Just sharing this so that I can get some suggestions from some more experienced folks and serve as an example for others. I don't want to jump to conclusions about the EWSF soil because I know many of you use is it and some of you hold David in high regard. I'm not trying to start a flame war---just want to grow some healthy plants.

From the report it looks like the soil is totally out of Nitrogen, Calcium, magnesium, boron and, sulfate.

I'm thinking the best approach would be to keep up the Calcium 25, PHT Calcium and, photomag foliars. Maybe increase to 2 x per week? But for how long? And what can I use besides PPD for nitrogen? I don't want to use it anymore I'm pretty sure using 2x per week has been burning the leaves on my Blue Dreams. What about boron and sulfate? I do have Micro 5000 Organic...

I'm thinking about using some Magic Green from House n Garden---I've heard good things and I need something that will help to fix the problem right away...This is the month when the most growth happens. I had planned on going totally organic but I'm stuck on it.

Any suggestions on things to add to the soil? Foliar?

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[Diggaz]

Milky there are a couple places that will micronize stuff, It is not cheap. I do believe that it is a combo of ingredients that make it work, and they are quality. But believing there are things in those bottles that no one else has is ridiculous imo. The one place I checked out that will miconize only do a tonne min order. I am going to pick up some Micronized Spanish River Carbonate for my own foliars, prob from the company that mines it.

BF care to show me the info where it states that, from what I read it is combo of what I stated. Are you sure those arnt in the sea crop? If I was closer I would try out some of their stuff, not the whole program tho. I am planning on getting some pepzyme and micro something, are those the powders you are referring to?

I forgot to add everyones plants in this thread are very inspiring.

 

[reppin2c]

Furry wall like you said you only got a bit of season left burn the wick at both ends. That's some crazy high P and K. Foliar and feed the soil whatever is missing or low add it that pretty much it. Man 56 CECT that's pretty stout

 

[TheRealHash]

Afghani #1 and the guard dog

 

[Dr. Purpur]

I like that Dog

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Plants nice too

 

[TheRealHash]

I like that Dog

Yeh she's the best dog I've ever had.

She caught someone trying to sneak into my crop last year at 3 in the morning.

I cooked her a steak for dinner

 

[Jbomber79]

why the rock piles?

 

[TheRealHash]

why the rock piles?

Those all came out of my trenches.. I just piled them up to get them out of the way

 

[OvergrowDaWorld]

Afghani #1 and the guard dog
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How much you think that plant will produce at harvest, being that size already? The reason I ask is cuz my plants are about that size now and Ive never had a plant this big so I have no idea what they can do outside.

 

[warthog]

^ I think i've seen your post overgrow.. you are a guerilla, no? You should expect at least 2#'s from those pics you posted, but thats a low ball guess.. if you are in cali then you are in good shape with pristine flowers.. if you are in an area with fall season rains, expect to loose at most 20% of harvest.

 

[milkyjoe]

My plants in ewsf soil that I got in April were turning pale so I got a soil test done and the results are very surprising. When I got the soil I was told I wouldn't need to anything--just water--I was even told by the proprietor not to use PPD.

Anyways....Just sharing this so that I can get some suggestions from some more experienced folks and serve as an example for others. I don't want to jump to conclusions about the EWSF soil because I know many of you use is it and some of you hold David in high regard. I'm not trying to start a flame war---just want to grow some healthy plants.

From the report it looks like the soil is totally out of Nitrogen, Calcium, magnesium, boron and, sulfate.

I'm thinking the best approach would be to keep up the Calcium 25, PHT Calcium and, photomag foliars. Maybe increase to 2 x per week? But for how long? And what can I use besides PPD for nitrogen? I don't want to use it anymore I'm pretty sure using 2x per week has been burning the leaves on my Blue Dreams. What about boron and sulfate? I do have Micro 5000 Organic...

I'm thinking about using some Magic Green from House n Garden---I've heard good things and I need something that will help to fix the problem right away...This is the month when the most growth happens. I had planned on going totally organic but I'm stuck on it.

Any suggestions on things to add to the soil? Foliar?

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I cannot see the download on this freakin phone. But with that much cec you gotta have plenty of minerals...how big of pots? Besides feeding I would be trying to jack up the bacterial population to make some of that available...teas, tainio, mollases...whatever you have available

 

[cheezhead]

Here are a couple pics of the BD's in the garden...Boxes are 6' wide for reference. I'm setting up the netting for additional trellising. Any ideas would help. I saw how props doing his. Anyone else? Thanks...

 

[igrowkushbitch]

Thats a nice looking garden cheezhead. Super clean!