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Motherlode Gardens 2014

Bulldog420

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Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but water is the topic.....

Last week I was leveling out a 60x60 pad for my new green house and when Dozing I noticed ground water very close to the surface. After digging around I found out I have a natural water spring no deeper than 10 feet. I was thinking of dropping a large pipe in the ground and letting it fill with the ground water. Then irrigate out of that. Keep in mind I am around 2700 ft and in a rocky, mountain area. I was surprised to find water that close to the surface, so I guess my 600ft deep well shouldn't be an issue.
 

Sleeper7784

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Don't mean to hi-jack the thread, but water is the topic.....

Last week I was leveling out a 60x60 pad for my new green house and when Dozing I noticed ground water very close to the surface. After digging around I found out I have a natural water spring no deeper than 10 feet. I was thinking of dropping a large pipe in the ground and letting it fill with the ground water. Then irrigate out of that. Keep in mind I am around 2700 ft and in a rocky, mountain area. I was surprised to find water that close to the surface, so I guess my 600ft deep well shouldn't be an issue.

GOLD! Haha

Thats a useful and unique find man. Your entire green house could be feed off of that.

First I'd take some samples and have them lab tested, then if everything was free of hazardous mineral levels and proper ph of course. Then I would deffently get a backhoe out there and build an in ground trough.

Not a huge expensive one but a budgeted resourceful one. You don't know how ling it will last. Its most likely Spring run off.
 

Backyard Farmer

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what we do around here when we hit something like that is dig a hole down as far as the backhoe boom will go and don't do anything to it until August.

If when we come back and it's got water that we can pump out and it refills , we will put a perforated plastic culvert in and excavate at least 12x12 around the culvert as far down as the boom will go and back fill with 3/4" washed rock....
 

J.V

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what we do around here when we hit something like that is dig a hole down as far as the backhoe boom will go and don't do anything to it until August.

If when we come back and it's got water that we can pump out and it refills , we will put a perforated plastic culvert in and excavate at least 12x12 around the culvert as far down as the boom will go and back fill with 3/4" washed rock....

In my part of the world.....That perforated plastic culvert is called a spear.....but yep....you got it right..
 

Shcrews

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pulled 3 of the problem glues today and replaced with Bodhi's Wookie, forum cookies, and Fruity Pebbles OG. All the new starts are only 8-10 inches tall so we double planted all of them in 400's. I'm gonna call around later and get somebody out here to check our well and tell us whether we are gonna have water issues this summer.

our new soil mix is working so far. It doesn't drain as well as the vermifire but i think it holds water better because of that. All the plants are looking pretty happy. Next week we will top dress everything with neem meal and start foliar feeding.

Our cherry pies in the 800's want to grow out instead of up. not sure what to do about this:
 

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Shcrews

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Problem Glue

Problem Glue

this is one of the gorilla glues that got pulled today... looks like flowering to me, and yellow too. all bad. dont veg in coco lesson learned
 

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Shcrews

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Size disparity

Size disparity

400 gallon pots, on the right is a Pre Soviet Afghan x Uncirculated OG, the left is 2 new Wookie starts, replacing a gorilla glue that decided to be shitty.
 

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Backyard Farmer

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What's behind the glue ? I hope you replaced those too,

Best of luck

Sorry I didn't realize those WERE the replacements!

You can do a well test yourself ...

1. Pump out your well casing , if you can , for example my well refreshes at 100 GPM, and my pump is set to pump @ 20GPM it never dries out...record how long it took to,clear and how long to refill.

2. Get a container of known volume , at the well head fill said container , record the time it took , you can figure out your pump rate this way.

3. Take a sample of the water and send it to a lab like FGL in Chico
 

Shcrews

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WiFi #3 x Snow Lotus (Bodhi Seeds)

WiFi #3 x Snow Lotus (Bodhi Seeds)

This plant is starting to grow into her cage.. about 3.5 feet tall, and still lots of space to grow in that 800+ gallon pot
 

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Shcrews

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What's behind the glue ? I hope you replaced those too,

Best of luck

Sorry I didn't realize those WERE the replacements!

You can do a well test yourself ...

1. Pump out your well casing , if you can , for example my well refreshes at 100 GPM, and my pump is set to pump @ 20GPM it never dries out...record how long it took to,clear and how long to refill.

2. Get a container of known volume , at the well head fill said container , record the time it took , you can figure out your pump rate this way.

3. Take a sample of the water and send it to a lab like FGL in Chico

Yah our late starts are pretty small but they are healthy and more importantly they have been outside so they are ready for the sun.

that well test sounds complicated, i don't even know where to begin with that stuff. probably would rather pay somebody to come out and check to make sure we arent gonna run out of h20. The well pump house is full of spiders which i hate haha. Water analysis is a good idea, we will look up FGL thanks :tiphat: :ying:

This is a simple fix in the future. Either veg in the same medium you grow full season in or what I do is just wack off a few lower branches and burry the root ball deeper in the pots. The saturation of the surrounding soil will help keep the root ball from drying out faster than the surrounding soil.
I think i heard that burying the rootball too deep can cause stem rot

fwiw, costso is selling a 4500 gallon pool for like $600
it would be nice to have a pool this summer haha. It would have to be covered though, for water storage, right? just use a tarp or something?
 
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Which FPOG cut do you have? I still have an original unopened F1 pack...

Plant it high, it won't die. Plant it low, it won't grow.
 
awesome share, how can i add to a members reputation? i cant find where to "click", on posts that are helpful to me (im brand new)

thank you
 

Sleeper7784

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I think i heard that burying the rootball too deep can cause stem rot.

Hum maybe in soil...

I think stem rot is cause by over watering, or not allowing enough time between waterings.

I've been burrying like a foot deep without any issues like that.
 

grow nerd

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I'm guessing they were the 84"x??" flat sheets instead of the roll. IIRC costs about 2-3x as much per sqft as the 150' roll @ $105.

If a 5' circumference is enough (60"/3.14 = ~19" diameter), you could cut the 150' roll as long as you want and form the tube lengthwise.
 

Meds215

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@grownerd yea I'm looking for the 7ft 200 ft roll, all I can find is 5 ft 150ft roll for $105 maybe they discontinued the 7ft roll which sucks. Is the 5 ft roll sufficient?
 

grow nerd

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I see a lot of other guys on the forums using what appears to be 10'-ish cages above-ground. Doesn't look to be too much larger than 19"-ish diameter, so I'm assuming that's how they're doing it.
 

Meds215

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Yea my plants are already bushy not sure if 19" diameter is gonna do it for me, bummer!! sat on the phone with home depot for half hour 7 ft x 200 ft rolls no more. Well I guess I'll be buying 5 ft and using horti netting with it ima do the best I can
 
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