Soil test results way off?

[Rob547]

So I had never got a soil test until this year, mainly got it because its re-amended/recycled soil and I wanted some accurate idea what I was dealing with..
The sample was from about 3 weeks after everything was added/started cooking so idk.... Almost everything is way excessive, and its not like I really amended much.

Soil is:
30 or so gallons recycled mix from last year (mostly promix)
1 bale of compressed coco - figure it to be about 20 gallons
1 cf of humus/manure
1 cf lobster compost
most of a 30 gallon bag of EWC
About 2 cups of Garden Tone 3-4-4 and Coast of ME Kelp and Lobster Meal 5-3-4


about 90 gallons or so.


Anyway, not an expert by any means, any help or thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks guys

 

[BurnOne]

There must have been a lot left over from the previous grow. What was in that batch you recycled?
Burn1

 

[Rob547]

hmmm good point BurnOne, I didn't really remember much of anything but looking back at some notes looks like I gave a few of them some monster bloom 0-50-30 late last year so I guess would likely explain the excessive P?
Should I be concerned? Just seedlings in there now, guess I will just watch for burning...

 

[BurnOne]

That's it. Chemical too. Shame Shame

 

[MrTea]

You are recycling chem soil? Hmm.....Seems a bit arbitrary to me. Good luck reviving dead microbes.

 

[intotheunknown]

just out of curiosity, as I have been wanting to test my soil, although i dont really need to considering results. Whats that cost? and how quickly are results given back?

 

[MrTea]

just out of curiosity, as I have been wanting to test my soil, although i dont really need to considering results. Whats that cost? and how quickly are results given back?

Depends on the company, but average would be at $50 per sample for the basic data, it goes upwards of 200-300 for full tests.

 

[Rob547]

You are recycling chem soil? Hmm.....Seems a bit arbitrary to me. Good luck reviving dead microbes.

it was always all organic minus the dose or two of monster bloom. Didn't think it would matter a ton with everything else being added.


@ Unknown - https://soiltest.umass.edu/services $20 for mine with the everything but N, and with organic matter %
- received 5/28, reported 6/3 (email results)

 

[MrTea]

it was always all organic minus the dose or two of monster bloom. Didn't think it would matter a ton with everything else being added.


@ Unknown - https://soiltest.umass.edu/services $20 for mine with the everything but N and organic matter %
- received 5/28, reported 6/3 (email results)

Quite the opposite. Once you added your salt fertilizers most if not all of the microbes died. Your soil is contaminated, forever. Microbes, no matter how abundant or how diverse cannot compete with bottled nutrients, they will always die.

 

[intotheunknown]

wow, per sample huh.... costly curiosity.

 

[Photosynthesis]

Quite the opposite. Once you added your salt fertilizers most if not all of the microbes died. Your soil is contaminated, forever. Microbes, no matter how abundant or how diverse cannot compete with bottled nutrients, they will always die.

Microbes can and will digest those nutes eventually. Heavy use of compost, and compost tea can get it back on track with the quickness.

No need to throw it out.

 

[Microbeman]

Microbes can and will digest those nutes eventually. Heavy use of compost, and compost tea can get it back on track with the quickness.

No need to throw it out.

I agree here that you can bring your soil around. I'd use EM fermentations to degrade the salts. Chemical fertilizers do not necessarily kill microbes, they bypass the microbial nutrient system and then microbes die off or go dormant.

 

[Rob547]

EM fermentation??

thanks for the replies

 

[bigshrimp]

I agree here that you can bring your soil around. I'd use EM fermentations to degrade the salts. Chemical fertilizers do not necessarily kill microbes, they bypass the microbial nutrient system and then microbes die off or go dormant.

A subtle but important difference.

MM - would you say that soluble organic ferts do the same?

 

[ct guy2]

That doesn't seem right based on your original recipe. I've put way more into my soil mix and gotten no where near those numbers. One good thing is that your CEC is high, though 66 doesn't look right to me either. I'd re-test with Logan Labs, that's who we used. You can get all the standard soil test for $20.

 

[Microbeman]

A subtle but important difference.

MM - would you say that soluble organic ferts do the same?

Good question. Perhaps to a lesser degree.