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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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bamboogardner

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Also worked in 22 yards of compost this past week. Man I miss the back I had when I was 18 and am envious of all those using big equipment.

Are you shittin me? If I worked in that many yards by hand I would be dead. LOLLLLLL

Looking good my friend.

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Shcrews

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most of our plants are in their final homes, just in time for june 1st.

here is my favorite as of today, the Uncirculated OG x Pre-Soviet Afghani, about 4 ft tall on june 1st. 400gallon pot but she might need more dirt i am thinking, so she can reach full potential.
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and B.O.G.'s Sweet&Sour Cindy, 3 feet tall and bushy. This one is also in 400gallon pot and also might need more dirt, maybe make it a 600gallon pot or just a 3 yard mound...



at this stage, the week or two just after transplant how does one walk the fine line between overwatering and fried plants? Hard to tell how much/often to water these big pots especially when the plants are small and the days are HOT and dry. We are handwatering with a hose and a wand. Sorry if this has already been discussed.
 

Backyard Farmer

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I start my stuff up in 7 gallon grow bags...

What I do when I transplant is treat my plant like I just put it in to a 45 gallon pot...

Meaning watering it about how I would if it was in a 45...

And with each watering increase the amount and diameter I apply the water to...

You should ALWAYS hand water your starts in.

Also make sure that you are penetrating the root ball you originally planted...This is very important..Or your roots won't spread.
 

DIDM

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the one thing I wonder about is that little ass root ball going into them big ass pots

yes, this happens every year, but it just is so against what we do indoors, cups, 1, 3, 7, then 10 if need

do you do anything to really cause the roots to go nuts? We use an O2 tank and a high class fish tank air stone, like a real nice salt water tank stone

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the one we use is about 1.5 feet long, and has a threaded end that on O2 line screws onto. We charge the water till it can hold no more O2, you can by an O2 meter.

I imagine any air stone will work, it's the O2 that does the job, not the stone

from first hand experience, there is no comparison, huge crazy fat white roots on everything, the bottom half of the smart pots are straight white
 

DIDM

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It gets over 100 here with humidity below 20, if that were true, shouldn't my plants die?

I just water enough so they can transpire as much as their environment demands.

Which is a lot.


get any news on H2O shortages? seems they are calling for the worst drought in history
 

Backyard Farmer

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DIDM ,

You'd have better plants if you went from the cup to the 7 gallon pot.

No one pre busted yet for using water either...My 4 different water sources are all abundant...

Between the Ganja and all the veggies , laid down about 5000 gallons yesterday.

Giving thanks in these dry times.
 

milkyjoe

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Calcium peroxide in the transplant drench will also release oxygen into the root zone and make sure the plant takes up Ca for cell development. Root growth in24 hours. I tore out some veggie transplants to check
 

Backyard Farmer

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I couldn't imagine wanting some any other time during the grow...

Once the roots start pumping , they shouldn't need it... if the soil is built right.

Did you end up using any AS this spring? If you did , what was the result.
 

Yes4Prop215

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did anybody see that recent news article regarding the water management board and marijuana grows? They basically photographed and mapped out every single grow, by plant count and sq ft, in the salmon creek watershed of humboldt. looks like they are going to get pretty serious this year about water. thank god my well is good but i have the water truck guys on backup just in case.

water trucks were charging 150 per 3k gallon load last year, and this year some desperate farmers are offering up to 350 per load to get top priority over other customers. shit is insane this year, i see water trucks at my local hydrant every single time i drive by..
 

IGROWMYOWN

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for some reason the National and local media is running with this story ....its not a good thing for some of you boys up north they're reporting all the rivers being polluted and drained are endangering salmon and steelhead possibly others just what i'm hearing having worked and been shut down over an endangered bug working cali oilfield production last thing you want is environmental activists causing trouble. Wonder how much the pay is up that way For hauling Fresh water? I still have my CDL A with all the endorsements that's what I did Vac truck haul fresh water,production water, Lease water drilling Mud.
 

COconnect

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Been sitting at the gate smokin a j. Seen 3 water trucks in 20 minutes. :0 it's still so early in the season. Fingers crossed for y'all
 

Yes4Prop215

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just get the biggest roll they have, if you dont use it all this season you garunteed will use it the next.

igrowmyown, i talked to my water guy yesterday when i ran into him at the gas station. he can usually make 5 trips per day, with a base rate of 150 per trip but he is getting bids up to 250-350 by the desperate ones... he works every single day and has 3 other trucks, not sure what he pays those drivers. he's making damn good money thats for sure at least six figures..ive noticed a lot of new water trucking services up here too.
 

milkyjoe

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I couldn't imagine wanting some any other time during the grow...

Once the roots start pumping , they shouldn't need it... if the soil is built right.

Did you end up using any AS this spring? If you did , what was the result.

Well other than microbes I plan to fertigate either AS or cano3 depending on pH. I did not even want to say it out loud. If aea pisses people off this ought to make them batshit.

I am in the middle of planting. I will post a pic or two. But plants I am very familiar with that should be 2 - 2.5 ft are 3.5. And already tracking the sun across the sky.

Fuck tradition
 

Backyard Farmer

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Sorry I just figured we'd discuss ideas for pushing them furthering in the open...As our "let them figure it out" mantra...was thrown to the wind..

I'll keep further inquiries to private correspondence.

Big up.
 
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Milky,

I remember several posts talking about how CaNO3 can drop brix. I think you were a part of that discussion in this thread or an other. I'm assuming you've found a rate that doesn't flood the plant with NO3 and you've still got high brix plants. I'm curious, pm me if you're worried about stirring things up but I think its relevant if you have found a dose that doesn't mess up the plant.

My soil will probably not be ideal this year. Even if I have adequate Calcium in it, the plants are probably going to have a harder time getting it. Is there an edge to foliar CaNO3 compared to Albion or Ca25 coupled with something like ppd? Is your choice to fertigate with CaNO3 purely economical?

I'm going to work harder this year making sure my plants have enough Ca, especially to minimize losses to Botrytis. Enough Calcium and even/adequate watering will help. I know the same is true for blossom end rot in tomatoes.
 
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