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Motherlode Gardens 2014

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caseyjones123

Looking forward to seeing those 600's and 800's. I I over filled a few of first few holes. maybe 9 holes got 800 maybe. Should be exciting season! Go big or go home!
 

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work today: Carving hillside and hauling soil.

you can see the 800's are quite bigger than the 400's. fun!

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Have you checked with PVFS in Grass Valley?

Looks like you're keeping yourself nice and busy this season. How much of the $125/yd was the mix, and how much for trucking? Any idea how much the mix would have been if you bought & mixed the ingredients yourself? If I do this outside thing again next year, I'm thinking a used 1-yard soil mixer might really be worth the cost especially if I have some other people I can share with.
 

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for the neem meal? not yet. as a soil amendment is it really worth all the trouble we will have to go through to get it?

Yeah, for the neem meal; I just checked their website, says not for sale in CA. Wondering if this is some labeling issue or something else.

Honestly I don't know anything about it, as I've never grown in soil before, but seems all the cool kids on that thread are all about it. Definitely sounds like the shit, with insect-fighting and root-enhancing capabilities. "The bigger the root the bigger the fruit" or whatever.
 

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By the way, don't confuse hay for straw. Straw is the stalk-only portion of the hay, and usually lower moisture content to from the beginning. I got some for $6 / bale but changed my mind on it and spent a bunch of time pulling it all up after laying it down. Gonna go with mulch instead, looking into synthetic rubber mulch to see if it's safe. Can't find good quality cedar for cheap.
 

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whatd you get? hay or straw? im looking for different alternatives to hay for a mulch. im clueless what to look for...

I got straw. I've been informed hay is absolutely terrible for use as mulch, while straw can be a cheap mulch option (with mixed reviews/results).
 

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i love straw. I change it out maybe 3 times during the season. the farm is looking awesome and its easy to see how much hard work yall are doing. would be a bitch pushing wheelbarrows of dirt up that hill! some of those plants look really bushy already
 

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Looks like you're keeping yourself nice and busy this season. How much of the $125/yd was the mix, and how much for trucking? Any idea how much the mix would have been if you bought & mixed the ingredients yourself? If I do this outside thing again next year, I'm thinking a used 1-yard soil mixer might really be worth the cost especially if I have some other people I can share with.

Trucking was $800 to take 40 yard of dirt 200 miles. The actual mixing of the soil was only $2.50 per yard, so without the trucking or mixing we would have only saved $900, about $25 per yard, and it would be so much more time/work that way.

I am now hoping that we didn't get our soil mix too hot. lots of compost in it... we are transplanting our cannabis plants in a small buffer zone of Vermifire soil within the 800's so the new dirt doesn't burn them hopefullty


Mulch: we are still thinking this one over. we will probably collect leaf mold on our property and use what we can gather for as many pots as possible. beyond that i'm not sure. what is the best mulch for big ganja plants in extremely dry climates????
 
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caseyjones123

Looks like good ol gold county, great views and western exposure you have there. Similar to my place. Ill be watching, this should be good. 800's are sweet!
 

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I'm looking for cedar bark mulch. I'll take shredded as well but can't seem to find anything but sawdust grade in small bags.

$2.50/yd to mix and you can bring your own amendments? That's a deal, I'm new to this bulk soil thing. I went with the North County Bounty 420 Blend for $135/yd just because I have no clue what to mix in what proportions and planned late so I don't have time to let things sit. It supposedly has some good shit in it.

Maybe next year I'll price out my own mix and see if it is worth doing. Even if I go with a pre-made mix, I wouldn't mind paying $2.50/yd to mix in a few amendments like neem cake so I don't have to do it by hand.
 

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Those are dope! Can't wait to see some monsters in them. Any idea what strains your going to run in them.
our 2014 setup is pretty much final at this point, We have 10x 800's and 15x 400's (may hide some extra 100's around the property too)

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The 800's will be:

From Clone:
3x Cherry Pie (double planted, two pies per 800)
2x Gorilla Glue$

From Seed:
3x WiFi x Snow Lotus (Bodhi genetics)
2x Solo's Stash (Bodhi Seeds)
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The 400's will be:

From Clone:
-2x Hardcore OG (fuck da russians)
-8x Gorilla Glue$

From Seed:
-2x Pre-Soviet Afghani x Uncirculated OG (source genetics)
-1x Sweet&Sour Cindy (B.O.G.)
-1x Flo x OG (Rare Dankness)
-1x Royal Kush s1 (from a garden i ran in 2011)
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--the Royal Kush seedling looks the weakest of all 25 plants, if she doesn't look better in a week she will be replaced with another one of our Bodhi seedlings. Maybe an Ancient OG.
 
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caseyjones123

I live near a mill. I have access to as much cedar chips as I wish, 10$/ yard. Though the mill owner tells me that pine decomposes faster than ceder.the mill owner has a client who changed out his ceder mulch for pine mulch. Is some sort of oil or resin in ceder that doesn't help cannabis. To what extent ,I don't know? I am personally using 20 yards of a product called microbe mulch. Is the left overs from (green waste compost . Composted is screened and small particles are used for soil building and everything to big or not decomposed is sold as mulch, my microbe mulch is sprayed with worm compost. Has benafical microbes. I will see how this works. For my greenhouse we gathered leaf mold. Which so far is working really well. Water is absorbed immediatly, and holds water for some time. After a few waterings with mulch I noticed my roots were making there way to the surface, just under the mulch, where they are very happy. I would use leaf mold for my full season plot but is very labor intensive. Worth the while if you plan on a no till operation. As it will break down and create more soil. No need to fluff your planters every spring, or add soil each year as we think it get compressed. Tilling is worst thing most can do to soil. Become "beyond organic certified" the latest organic movement !
 

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By that I assume you mean leveling the sloped hillside surface where the pots will sit? Are you doing this by hand with a regular shovel?
yep shovel and pick axe. its brutal work , the hillside is all boulders and hard clay. good workout though.
 
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