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6/9 & A Pinch BayBay!

Coconutz

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Leave the micro and then cut it a week or two before pure water/
I drop micro, then just bloom(or cns17 ripe for 1 week) before pure water for about 5 days.
Im also just letting them go dry, so Im not really giving them much pure water.
A few days of pure water(every other day).
Ive been taking them out and leaving them in the dark for a few days while they dry. Mostly because I need to make room in flower.
Its ok to add some tap to your flush water so they dont get pure RO
 

DunHav`nFun

Well-known member
Leave the micro and then cut it a week or two before pure water/
I drop micro, then just bloom(or cns17 ripe for 1 week) before pure water for about 5 days.
Im also just letting them go dry, so Im not really giving them much pure water.
Its ok to add some tap to your flush water so they dont get pure RO
I`m from the "no flush"/dwindle down ppms to tapwater levels before chop , and let a proper dry and cure take care of anything residual left in the plants FTW , but that's just me and 20 + yrs of croppin and choppin under my belt for the reasons stated above.....See...

The plants will NEVER swell more than in the last 2 "actual weeks" of their lives before chop that`s "genetically" not breeder determined , and that`s why I was taught back in the day to let the plants cannibalize themselves with their nutrient reserves using lower ppms till at tapwater levels to allow all the plants to swell as much as was possible in the allotted time frame before chop instead of starving em with straight water......but....

Opinions vary , but results stand for themselves......and....

Awesome Sig Coconutz...

Peace....DHF.....:ying:....
 

theother

Member
I`m from the "no flush"/dwindle down ppms to tapwater levels before chop , and let a proper dry and cure take care of anything residual left in the plants FTW , but that's just me and 20 + yrs of croppin and choppin under my belt for the reasons stated above.....See...

The plants will NEVER swell more than in the last 2 "actual weeks" of their lives before chop that`s "genetically" not breeder determined , and that`s why I was taught back in the day to let the plants cannibalize themselves with their nutrient reserves using lower ppms till at tapwater levels to allow all the plants to swell as much as was possible in the allotted time frame before chop instead of starving em with straight water......but....

Opinions vary , but results stand for themselves......and....

Awesome Sig Coconutz...

Peace....DHF.....:ying:....
I think this is approximately the direction I am headed. Does dwindling a week before chop sound acceptable to you dhf?

I did not get satisfactory results IMHO from cutting the micro at 5 and 6 on an 8 and a 9 week respectively. I definitely feel like a sizable amount of dry weight was lost.

Also fwiw, I have had to chop at times in the past due to outside circumstances and I really feel like a good 2 week hang solved much of that, almost not noticeable honestly. Those experiences were not with 6/9 but I feel like the results will actually be a bit better with 6/9, so far so tasted.
 

Coconutz

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The buds start to look like crap if I let it fade too long.
It seems like once the PK gets lowered the budleaves start to get eaten and look burned.
 

Coconutz

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Tomorrow will be her first 12/12.
She was fed some azamax yesterday and got a spray of spinosad today.
I put her under the T5 a couple of days ago to get her used to some stronger light.
The T5 has to be replaced with a T8 while this heatwave is cooking us.
She seems to be upset I let her sit in a 100 degree garage!
The rest of the plants in here seem fine...
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There are always other girls willing to take your place biatch!
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About a week of 12/12
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theother

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Thought I should pop in and say how much I love this system! Got some at week 6 and leaving the micro on has them bending all over the place! That was my one shortcoming on the other run, looks like micro is the way to go!
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
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Don't listen to CNutz! He will cost you money. He's been working on my brain for months and yesterday I broke weak and went and bought some smarties and SM90:biggrin:
 

DunHav`nFun

Well-known member
Thought I should pop in and say how much I love this system! Got some at week 6 and leaving the micro on has them bending all over the place! That was my one shortcoming on the other run, looks like micro is the way to go!
Anytime you cut the micro out completely , you`re relying strictly on nitrogen/micro/macro reserves left in the larger and lower fanleaves to make up for the juice not being in the feed regimen , and IME they`ll stop swellage when it`s most crucial and back up into survival mode to stay alive as long as possible.....anyways....

My 2 cents from all them yrs.....Everyone has different ways of huntin the best possible end results......

6/9 never worked for me.....I ran GH 3 part @5/10/15 but 1/2 strength till end of stretch , and then dropped the grow and adjusted out ppm`s to stay in the 750 range with all but no additives throughout the life of the grow.....

Lil SM-90 , lil Silicablast@ 5ml per gal for stemwall strength and overall plant health , and cal/mag as needed to keep the bitches hoonin in coco with it`s wonky mass CEC...all the while maintaining those consistent ppms across the board to keep the plants from "yo-yoing up and down each feed sequence....regardless...

Coconutz....I want her sister and her....wonder how much that`d cost for a weekend....lol......

Peace....DHF....:ying:.....
 

theother

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Anytime you cut the micro out completely , you`re relying strictly on nitrogen/micro/macro reserves left in the larger and lower fanleaves to make up for the juice not being in the feed regimen , and IME they`ll stop swellage when it`s most crucial and back up into survival mode to stay alive as long as possible.....anyways....

My 2 cents from all them yrs.....Everyone has different ways of huntin the best possible end results......

6/9 never worked for me.....I ran GH 3 part @5/10/15 but 1/2 strength till end of stretch , and then dropped the grow and adjusted out ppm`s to stay in the 750 range with all but no additives throughout the life of the grow.....

Lil SM-90 , lil Silicablast@ 5ml per gal for stemwall strength and overall plant health , and cal/mag as needed to keep the bitches hoonin in coco with it`s wonky mass CEC...all the while maintaining those consistent ppms across the board to keep the plants from "yo-yoing up and down each feed sequence....regardless...

Coconutz....I want her sister and her....wonder how much that`d cost for a weekend....lol......

Peace....DHF....:ying:.....
Interesting that you were at 5 mls with the silica, I'll have to look at what brand I use, don't think it's that one. I am right in the 1.5ml range, with the sm90 it puts me right where I want to be ph wise.

When I think back on my experiences with salts in any system, I have always with 3 parts (even if I only use 2) than I have with ab style nutes. Seems like different cuts just have different requirements, have a strawberry cough right now that looks a little over N-ed on 6/9. Pits nice to have the ability to adjust, never had that with 2 parts.
 

stoned40yrs

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Do you mix your silica and sm90 first to the water. I know the silica goes first. I added sm90 to the mix last and it made a white cloud. Not that I care, just stirred it up some more.
 

theother

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Do you mix your silica and sm90 first to the water. I know the silica goes first. I added sm90 to the mix last and it made a white cloud. Not that I care, just stirred it up some more.

I've always added it last as well. Do not believe that white cloud is fallout the way it would be from silica or ph up, think it's just the oil in it.
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
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So now I have per gal:
6ml micro
9ml bloom
1ml dripclean
1ml sm90
1/5 tsp epsom
1ml protekt
1ml ph down

5.8 ph and 1.2ec, that's using well water that's .3 ec
This is what I feed them in veg, hempy cups and 1 gal pots. As soon as they go in 2 gal with blumats they get Maxibloom and the rest instead of 6/9 and a pinch.
 

watts

ohms
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I have a 30 gallon reservoir with 6/9 and it comes out to 6 ounces of micro and 9 ounces of bloom.

All is good here.
 

Coconutz

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DIRECTIONS FOR USE:
To be used in conjunction with standard fertilizer or hydrogarden nutrient program.
Container Gardens – Use 1 teaspoon Silica Blast per gallon of water (2.5 – 5 ml / 4 liters) every, or every other watering.
Hydroponics – Mid size plants use 1/2 teaspoon per gallon (2.5 ml/4 liters). Mature plants use 1 teaspoon per gallon (5 ml / 4 liters). Apply to reservoir every 5 – 7 days. Adjust pH to 6.0. One teaspoon per gallon of Silica Blast (5 ml / 4 liters) per 4 liters (1 gallon) of water will achieve 105 ppm silicate.


5ml of silica blast is 105ppm of silicate
DHF... You mean the girl scout?
Im looking on ebay for the uniforms.
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SCORE! But it looks like someone already splooged on one of them!
Just need a few 18yr olds to model in the grow room for me!
I need to compete with noyd in the superduperstonerchick thread!
 

Coconutz

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Don't listen to CNutz! He will cost you money. He's been working on my brain for months and yesterday I broke weak and went and bought some smarties and SM90:biggrin:

Im willing to bet a few people following the thread have saved $$$ in the past month and improved quality.
 

MIMedHead

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Nice thread micro and bloom are my go too nutrients from day one. 6/9 for coco. I dropper silica and drip clean from my regiment and also dropped weekly ewc tea and things are looking better then ever! I mostly use base sometimes in a great moon I use Epsom when I see a mag def. I started using sm90 keeping my black hole drippers and way cleaner then drip clean ever did. Trying out madfarmer MOAB for the first time this run instead of KoolBloom. Anyways sorry about the rant nice thread coco
 

cannacultural

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I dropper silica and drip clean from my regiment and also dropped weekly ewc tea and things are looking better then ever!

I was thinking of using EWC teas again - did get into it when I was toying with DWC as per Heisenberg's thread at RIU, did it with some early veg plants in coco and now just do it on my outdoor vegies.

But you don't think it was helping? I'm all about the rhizosphere and focus on soil biology etc, and wanted to use teas to boost my inoculations I do on transplant with a commercial product. Though have been happy with results so far to not feel it a necessary change

Trying out madfarmer MOAB for the first time this run instead of KoolBloom. Anyways sorry about the rant nice thread coco

So you follow the Rez methodology of doing KB blasts 3 times? I was going to do this - though I'll just grab some regular monopotassium phosphate. My plan is to avoid huge increases in P to not kill the mycorrhizae, keep cost down, and reduce environmental impacts. But I'm not sure if it's a positive trade off.

Cnutz dude, you don't hit your ladies up with boosters do you?
 

stoned40yrs

Ripped since 1965
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DIRECTIONS FOR USE:
To be used in conjunction with standard fertilizer or hydrogarden nutrient program.
Container Gardens – Use 1 teaspoon Silica Blast per gallon of water (2.5 – 5 ml / 4 liters) every, or every other watering.
Hydroponics – Mid size plants use 1/2 teaspoon per gallon (2.5 ml/4 liters). Mature plants use 1 teaspoon per gallon (5 ml / 4 liters). Apply to reservoir every 5 – 7 days. Adjust pH to 6.0. One teaspoon per gallon of Silica Blast (5 ml / 4 liters) per 4 liters (1 gallon) of water will achieve 105 ppm silicate.


5ml of silica blast is 105ppm of silicate

It's used in growing everything commercial. The industry standard is 30-35ppm/gal dosage. Anybody says different is trying to get you to spend more $$$.:biggrin: Where ya getting those ppm numbers for Silica Blast? I read 5ml/gal Silica Blast is 30ppm. :tiphat:
 
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