skunk va and chem 91.. 2 different cuts?

[guy fawkes]

id always though that these 2 were one and the same but recently found this out.

Bodhi quote
chem 91 skunk va

a few years ago i obtained the chem 91 cut from jb's (chemfather) crew, it was the only verified cut at that time, it was even verified as the chem 91 skunk va by chemdawg himself. i made some different crosses and some were released. when skunk va (the person) came back online and posted pics of his original chem 91 it looked a lot more og-ish, a few deep heads also chimed in with there views and pics. i now have both chem 91 skunk va's and have been growing them side by side and they look to be of the same family but definitely different, the old one is more skunk sour d, and the real one is more og skunky. they are both amazing, but i respect the insight and knowledge on the subject by my peers, and have to agree the og one is the VA. i will continue to work with both, but the old one will be now known as chem 91 jb and i will change future listings to reflect that fact. it just goes to show you, you never really know your genetics unless you pop the seeds yourself, i really thought it was verified to the bone, but here i am eating my words. it will be interesting to see how they do as remixes of the same line. ill take photos of them together so you can see the difference soon...


whats folk take on this, i always thought they were both the same plant but it seems not.

 

[Fields~of~Green]

All the info you need is here guy fawkes


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=234671

 

[guy fawkes]

All the info you need is here guy fawkes


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=234671

nice one, cheers mate!

 

[Bluto]

Got a bag of a few hundred seeds labeled as Skunk VA. the donor said they ran them outdoors in VA hence the name. They are getting old time to start cracking...

 

[Mustafunk]

Two different cuts but just one legit Chemdog'91... the cut from Joe Brand that become pretty widespread as the 91 was actually a Diesel cut, so it has been passed as an unverified 91 if you ask me. Believe it or not, that's what most people received. Chem91 Skunk VA still is one of the few elusive and tightly held ones.

That's probably why Bodhi found out that his Skunk VA Chem 91 (legit one probably sourced from Nspecta) and that other "more sour d" cut were different plants actually. His eyes and nose were right... two different cuts indeed but only one is the true Chem91.

Skunk VA simply used to be the nickname of Good Ole Dog from VA. He shared some great pictures on that thread posted by Fields of Green. They show the true representation of the real McCoy Chem91.

It's easy to test any cut's terpenes in order to compare them with other or verified cuts and find out wheter it's legit or not. Many times we have read about all this different available Chem91, Diesel, GSC or Bubba Kush cuts but the truth is that there is always only one legit clone and the rest are simply renamed, unverified, fakes, hybrids or bagseeds/S1s from those. Most of the times is just people trying to look like they have something that others don't.

Peace.

 

[MJPassion]

Brace yourselves for the plethora of "Chem 91" clones that are about to be passed around...
I mean... It's inevitable since Top Dawg Seeds released "91Chem IX".
Lazy peole will drop the IX on their labels just to save ink!

 

[The Revolution]

The more you learn the less you know..

 

[Daddysdank]

Received this as chem91..thoughts anyone??

 

[FireIn.TheSky]

Brace yourselves for the plethora of "Chem 91" clones that are about to be passed around...
I mean... It's inevitable since Top Dawg Seeds released "91Chem IX".
Lazy peole will drop the IX on their labels just to save ink!

Luckily the real 91 has very distinct looks and is easy to identify.

IMO calling 91 IX is kind of dumb as it is a hybrid to start off with then that hybrid has been incrossed.

They should have gave the hybrid a new name like bodhi and archive did.

Calling it's Chem 91 IX is like me buying like hazmat og making f2s and calling it chem 91.

The only good thing is top Dawgs is so limited, hard to get and expensive only serious growers would go to such lengths to get it, so maybe there is a higher probability of people passing it with integrity.

 

[stoney917]

Received this as chem91..thoughts anyone??

Sorry but that's not it... From the pic the leaves are not correct.. Or even close to lookin like the 91

 

[Ras Mason]

chem 91 sk va.
peace

 

[mexweed]

I agree with there being 2 different but closely related as OP was thinking, perhaps the skunk va is a cut of the chem pheno of the 91Xsuperskunk nl

I have some stuff now simply labeled chemdawg but is definitely not #4 and is not like the stuff I have had labeled 91, the stuff I have had labeled 91 was very potent but overall a bit more manageable than what I have now, it was definitely heady that kind of trippy strong behind the eyes buzz with a nice body buzz too

if I had to pick lines that what I have now and the 91 would best lend themselves to, the 91 seems more OG like, as in it had more tangy garlicy bite, the sour was a bit more balanced/not as extreme, and the citrus notes erred more towards lemon

what I have now is astringent sour, chemical, burnt rubber skunk, a hard to describe smell gnarly almost like burnt plastic or hair with mothballs or something, kind of reminds me of when my grandma would perm her hair, the high is almost uncomfortable at first, chaotic psychedelic rush

I think when people say they have had chemdawg and didn't like it this might be the cut, the citrus is muted compared to the 91 and I would say it errs towards lime, out of all the chems this is the most like the sour diesel I have had from the same growers, the sour diesel taking on a sweeter but still astringent almost balmy/buttery lime and a smoother more sativa high

the sour diesel wasn't 'fuely' at all, neither is this chem I have now except I can see where the burnt rubber skunk could get people going down that road

the 91 and the OG I have had had the most 'fuely' notes to them as well as the most garlicy tang, the #4 being the most lemon cleaner like

 

[Medfinder]

2009... I remember a guy named elite that posted over on the farm and showed pics of what he said... the chem 91 sk va.


course me being in socal I've seen to many fakes fo sure.

now many years later...

picked up an pack from Cali connection of these chem 91 sk va seeds... looking for an male to hit to many to list clone only's.


Chem 91 SK VA

chem 91 sk va

 

[MJPassion]

Medfinder,
Just in case you weren't aware, Chem 91 Skunk VA is a clone only plant. There can be no regular seeds of it. You got played by one of the biggest con artists in this industry. No plant that comes from those seeds will be a legit SkVa cutting.

As a side note, I'd like to know what this chucker used for the male in his cross?

I do hope you find a male thats suitable fot your needs.

 

[t99]

From the CC website:
"The famed Chem 91 Sk Va, this comes from the East Coast, given to use by the Chem family from Chem Dawg and their crew. It is outcrossed to the Deadhead and then backcrossed to the Chem 91 so it’s actually to itself. The male seeds are Chem 91 female crossed to Chem 91 BX1 male. The female seeds are Chem 91 Skunk Va crossed to the Chem 91 BX1 female reversed."

I have no experience with this company, have only read of Swerve's "reputation" online.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

2009... Chem 91 SK VA

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if the origin of chemdog is unknown, how can a seed pack say 60% sativa, 40% indica???

 

[stonedfly]

i can't believe its not butter!

 

[Medfinder]

Medfinder,
Just in case you weren't aware, Chem 91 Skunk VA is a clone only plant. There can be no regular seeds of it. You got played by one of the biggest con artists in this industry. No plant that comes from those seeds will be a legit SkVa cutting.

As a side note, I'd like to know what this chucker used for the male in his cross?

I do hope you find a male thats suitable fot your needs.

Oh... so many clone only strains from verified from collectives in socal i have sourced have been hit with the snake oil..err..swerves so called chem 91 sk va male ive grown ... heres some Budder Og thats fully seeded out of many other clones

 

[HemperorsKnight]

2009... I remember a guy named elite that posted over on the farm and showed pics of what he said... the chem 91 sk va.


course me being in socal I've seen to many fakes fo sure.

now many years later...

picked up an pack from Cali connection of these chem 91 sk va seeds... looking for an male to hit to many to list clone only's.


Chem 91 SK VA


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chem 91 sk va


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I got a pack of those that I traded to someone who won't care of its authenticity but I talked with both pbud mike and skunk va himself and no those seeds are bs fakes the male used was from a bagseed mind you it was mislabeled as chemdog 91 sk va cut it was actually some sour diesel lol anyways the seed or seeds he found from that is what is crossed with the chemdog 91 sk va cut

So the lineage is
Sour diesel/? Bagseed x chemdog 91 sk va


Blessings

-Hemperorsknight

 

[Cannavore]

i dont think swerve even used the real 91. he had to steal cobcoop's pictures to sell his version.