Gorilla Glue #4

[ECtraveler]

If it was epigenetics wouldn't we'd be seeing the phenomenon on more of wide-scale then from 1 source? When cuts were being sent through the mail and other methods of long distance trading without being affected and we've only recently begun encountering a problem then IMO that likely rules out epigenetics.

*You could be right though. While I get the gist of epigenetics it still confuses me a little

 

[Lifebreather]

If it was epigenetics wouldn't we'd be seeing the phenomenon on more of wide-scale then from 1 source? When cuts were being sent through the mail and other methods of long distance trading without being affected and we've only recently encountering a problem then IMO that likely rules out epigenetics.

My cut didn't come from the cup, and Ive honestly read more about problems after the proliferation of exchange than I did before it was passed everywhere.

...and technically, I think it depends on the environment you got the cut from coupled with the environment it's going into.

 

[Storm Shadow]

DUD Infection is contagious and if you reuse the same medium that contained a DUD... it can be passed on from the dead roots in the medium...

I know exactly what DUD is .... I'm waiting for someone else to figure it out... took me 3 years and lots of lost $$$$$$$ I mean a lot of lost $$$$$$$... its passed from Mites and can live in the plant for 1-2 years b4 exposing itself... its actually a new problem that's being experienced through multiple states throughout the country in a wide variety of plants ...

This disease is going to weed out all the growers that shouldn't be in the game .... Its by far the biggest roadblock to growing Indoor cannabis EVER

 

[DETStrainKey]

I got two GG#4 i recived didnt come form the cup.... I have took over 40 clones and the mothers are still looking healthy bare but healthy i have been pumping B vitamin a little higher than normal due to all the cloning.... i still havent flowered any yet but all seems to be A+ in veg.



These are my GG#4 MOMS that i chopped away at



My clones seem to be doing great! i will keep you posted...DSK

 

[Lifebreather]

DUD Infection is contagious and if you reuse the same medium that contained a DUD... it can be passed on from the dead roots in the medium...

I know exactly what DUD is .... I'm waiting for someone else to figure it out... took me 3 years and lots of lost $$$$$$$ I mean a lot of lost $$$$$$$... its passed from Mites and can live in the plant for 1-2 years b4 exposing itself... its actually a new problem that's being experienced through multiple states throughout the country in a wide variety of plants ...

This disease is going to weed out all the growers that shouldn't be in the game .... Its by far the biggest roadblock to growing Indoor cannabis EVER

Wouldn't plant problems more likely be a lapse in regimen, or grower error/impatience/incompetence? That's what I consider the biggest roadblock to growing indoor cannabis.

Then again, I tend to place the burden on my own shoulders whenever possible.

However, not saying it isn't a systemic, latent, mite-induced disease spreading across the nation...

 

[mack 10]

EDiT; in reply to storm shadow's comment above,^^that's some heavy shit. Horrible duds poppoing up and loads of strange virus's..
just Soooo many thousands of people growing nowadays these things have
just exploded.

 

[ECtraveler]

its actually a new problem that's being experienced through multiple states throughout the country in a wide variety of plants ...

Pepper plants seem especially prone. I will no longer go into Home depot's garden section because of how infected their stock is.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have had no issues since I got her. I have taken many cuts from plants in various stages of growth including flowering. The cuts from flowering plants need a lot of time to recover. They grow much different with very tall lanky branches with single blade leaves typical reveg state. I dont flower these plants. I take cuts from them after they have recovered to normal growth I then take cuts and discard the plant. Some of the cut's are from mature flowering plants and some are from well established vegging plants but never from the same plant run after run. I dont keep moms. I always change out the plants I use to take cuts from. In the summer I will take 2 cuts of ea of my keeper strains to veg up in the summer. I will then take cuts after summer from those plants, flower them the cycle repeats.

If I was having issues like some of you I would just start over with a new cut. It makes things much simpler to do that. I know many dont have access to new cuts but if she is not performing like what has been shown why keep it. If I could I would replace them all for you guys but that's not possible. After the 2nd harvest you should be getting results similar to what has been shown in here.

 

[HidingInTheHaze]

Hippy free love always leads to sex diseases lol.

california is like the breeding ground for plant stds.

 

[Relentless]

+1 frostbyte.. my cut is perfect, but got it well before the cup cuts..

start over with a diff cut if u got a dudd, bc its not going to change.. anyone afraid of pests or dudds should jsut pop beans

 

[RB26]

My cut has been nothing short of miraculous. Clones are fully rooted in 6-7 using Dip-N-Gro and rock wool. They have vegged quickly - 35 days and the plants are all between 35" - 40". These growth rates were experienced using relatively low levels of nutrient solution (1.0 - 1.3EC). Just flipped the lights yesterday so we will see how she flowers out.

My cut was obtained months before the SSLTD passed out the HT Cup cuts. Honestly, if you buy cuts from the HT cup, dispensary, or any other source really, you should expect to have a couple problems. They should never be thrown right into the mix with your main room or other strains. Cuts like that need to be quarantined and observed throughout all stages of growth on their own, before they are allowed to go mingle with the rest of your plants.

 

[KushConnoisseur]

Lol oh well qoute me then... I was just trying not to feed your stupidity.
Im going to bed. I will speak with the one an only person I need to talk to about this tomorrow.
And its not you skeezo.

I got my cut from StoneyK. I did ask him, so he's not going around trying to sell cuts or anything like that, and he messaged me that he would take care of me once he obtains a new cut, before all this drama kicked off, which imo he didn't have to do. His plants looked perfectly healthy in veg when I obtained my cut from him. He's a stand up guy in my book, just wanted to clear the air on that. Let's keep it positive as we all share the same goal, to grow some bomb ass glue

 

[Lifebreather]

start over with a diff cut if u got a dudd, bc its not going to change..

I certainly hope this isn't the case, I'll find out here a few weeks as I've flipped a few more that look much happier than my last round.

The cut I got looked like crap, I REALLY want to turn this around. I want this to be my fault which I can overcome.

One thing I've noticed, I get NO big fan leaves, regardless of the size of the plant I grow...

 

[Mikenite69]

That doesn't sound to good! But then again I wouldn't say my glues have huge ass fan leaves and my plant has been healthy since day one can upload a picture of my vegging glue.. She has been vegging under a little led 200w at the wall and god forbid if part of her is out of the light she will lean her big ass forward to get more light. Lol

But mine has been vigorous since day 1 anything I do to her she takes well except she don't really care for supercropping. I find she likes and rebounds faster from pinching then cropping.

I'll get a pic up of my glue she will be going into flower shortly with a new cutting taking her place she is in a
7x7 sqaure pot right now and will be going into a 3gal or 7 for flowering.

 

[Mikenite69]

My momma glue!

My momma glue!

See here is my momma glue not huge fans but she is extremely happy!

 

[Hammerhead]

GG#4 doesn't get big leaves. I have never got any. Max # of 7 finger leaves. I have never got 9 or more.

 

[Storm Shadow]

I certainly hope this isn't the case, I'll find out here a few weeks as I've flipped a few more that look much happier than my last round.

The cut I got looked like crap, I REALLY want to turn this around. I want this to be my fault which I can overcome.

One thing I've noticed, I get NO big fan leaves, regardless of the size of the plant I grow...

Yes Sirrrrrrrr! Your Correct my friend .. Good Eye

 

[unclefishstick]

GG#4 doesn't get big leaves. I have never got any. Max # of 7 finger leaves. I have never got 9 or more.

what he said,even with 70+ days of veg and a 45 gallon smart pot i have never seen any more than 7 blades on a leaf...maybe a few 9's,and no dinner plate sized leaves.really the glue isnt very leafy at all,i just took down a 30 gallon plant that filled a 4x4 screen but aside from a stack of stems the trim pile is bigger than the waste pile by far.

 

[Treetroit City]

For those that are so confused now they don't know what a healthy glue looks like...

One week of flower.

 

[Crooked8]

The fans on the healthy glue cuts i have now are double the size of the duds. It also has more space between nodes and a vertical growth vigor not presented by the duds. With the earlier duds I vegged them forever and they never got over a foot or so tall. Just huge bushing of floppy lateral lowers. My new ones seem completely different. I was the first one to let the glue heads know what was happening and i was told a million things from needing to give extra tlc, to fungicides, miticides i was usually told it was broads or leftover toxins. I knew it wasnt me and i knew broads werent present. Its a shame but shit happens.