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Officials fear "bath salts" are growing drug problem

pothead66

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This is just another `murican-type of news. Bath salts don`t make you do that crazy stuff they say.... I`ve tried most of `em and trust me it won`t lead to that. MDPV/Methcathinone/Methylone (mdmc) / mephedrone (4-mmc) etc... trust me, most of `em. I didn`t eat anyones face off ... it`s just bullshit ameri-mediahype type of s**t . :) Sorry for reviving this thread but it`s the type of stuff that`s eating on my soul. :)
Sorry for my english .. or "americum language" :D
 

420somewhere

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I would say, that is your opinion

I would say, that is your opinion

This is just another `murican-type of news. Bath salts don`t make you do that crazy stuff they say.... I`ve tried most of `em and trust me it won`t lead to that. MDPV/Methcathinone/Methylone (mdmc) / mephedrone (4-mmc) etc... trust me, most of `em. I didn`t eat anyones face off ... it`s just bullshit ameri-mediahype type of s**t . :) Sorry for reviving this thread but it`s the type of stuff that`s eating on my soul. :)
Sorry for my english .. or "americum language" :D

I have seen someone freak out after smoking "American Bath Salts",

So to all of you "Newbies", I would advise against using unknown Bath Salts.

Peace

:tiphat:

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SpasticGramps

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Some chemicals are best left alone.

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Squirrels on Bath Salts
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HempKat

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Sorry for reviving this thread but it`s the type of stuff that`s eating on my soul. :)

This is what eats at your soul? That someone says bath salts are bad for you? Look it's real simple, if bath salts were the good wholesome recreational drugs you believe them to be then they wouldn't be sold as bath salts to avoid regulations and legal restrictions.
 

hush

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^ Yeah, really. I spent an extended weekend one time smoking PCP, and I lived through it. I actually had quite a bit of fun, to be honest. But the day I go around telling everyone PCP is safe because it didn't harm me is the day I kick my own ass.

Like Hempkat said, if it was so benign, we would see packets labeled "methylone" and "methcathinone" being sold openly in every store... not "bath salts" being sold only in the shadiest bodega.
 

FlaDankster

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This is just another `murican-type of news. Bath salts don`t make you do that crazy stuff they say.... I`ve tried most of `em and trust me it won`t lead to that. MDPV/Methcathinone/Methylone (mdmc) / mephedrone (4-mmc) etc... trust me, most of `em. I didn`t eat anyones face off ... it`s just bullshit ameri-mediahype type of s**t . :) Sorry for reviving this thread but it`s the type of stuff that`s eating on my soul. :)
Sorry for my english .. or "americum language" :D


Yes lets make an add and use this post as proof that all that bullshit is actually not all that bad for ya after all.

It's thoughts like the quoted post that eat at me.

I skeeted up in 4 hoes one week...........none got prego.......so it's safe to say that all of you reading this can go skeet up in who ever when ever and i promise you won't end up with any child support payments in your future.

I KNOW CAUSE I DID IT!!!
 

Harry Gypsna

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All these drugs are used as substitutes for acid, ecstacy, amphet and coke. A lot of them are much more dangerous than the drugs people really want to be taking.

Yay prohibition.

It's like when they introduced random drug testing in UK prisons. Weed hangs around the system longer, so people took smack instead. Nice work Government.

Legalize, regulate ALL OF IT.
 

FlaDankster

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All these drugs are used as substitutes for acid, ecstacy, amphet and coke. A lot of them are much more dangerous than the drugs people really want to be taking.

Yay prohibition.

It's like when they introduced random drug testing in UK prisons. Weed hangs around the system longer, so people took smack instead. Nice work Government.

Legalize, regulate ALL OF IT.


I don't know Harry....seems not many of the younger gen even know any thing about good ole uncle cid.Seems those days have passed over.

As much as i'd LOOOOOOVE to have a few hits to drop you can bet your gonads that Dankster WILL NOT be ingesting a packet full of bullshit to get my fix.
 

Harry Gypsna

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I don't know Harry....seems not many of the younger gen even know any thing about good ole uncle cid.Seems those days have passed over.

As much as i'd LOOOOOOVE to have a few hits to drop you can bet your gonads that Dankster WILL NOT be ingesting a packet full of bullshit to get my fix.


Yeah, I like my psychedelics, but I'm really not interested in all these new designer drugs.

Trust me, the young uns who know where to look are getting acid.
 

FlaDankster

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Yeah, I like my psychedelics, but I'm really not interested in all these new designer drugs.

Trust me, the young uns who know where to look are getting acid.


Designer drugs pretty much+bathtub crank in my eyes.

Yes you have a point.Kinda one of those "It's not what ya know but who ya know" deals.I'm a bit older now......don't really run with any crowd let alone the jitterbugs.I think what i really meant was that uncle cid doesn't seem to be AS popular.I remember when you went to pick up a sack of smoke your guy would ask if ya wanted some doses,or he'd say "hey i can get yaddayaddayadda"Or there was some one there that would have some or say hey i can get you yaddayaddayadda.But then again i haven't picked up a sack in quite a while now lol.Wasn't so underground.Was just as attainable as some ugly ass bricked mexi that would rip your head off.
 

m314

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This is what eats at your soul? That someone says bath salts are bad for you? Look it's real simple, if bath salts were the good wholesome recreational drugs you believe them to be then they wouldn't be sold as bath salts to avoid regulations and legal restrictions.

They're sold as "bath salts" because they're recreational drugs. It's just a loophole in the current laws. No recreational drugs stay legal for long except alcohol. People that openly sell drugs to get high end up in prison.

The ones sold as bath salts aren't wholesome, but they aren't the nightmare drugs portrayed in the media. Most people still think bath salts made that guy in Florida eat someone's face, when the toxicology reports showed otherwise.

They aren't exactly wholesome, but drugs like mephedrone and MDPV are no worse than drugs like MDMA and cocaine. The general public believes the terrible things they read in the news because they don't know any better. They believe this generation's "reefer madness" because they don't have any personal experience.
 

m314

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Yeah, I like my psychedelics, but I'm really not interested in all these new designer drugs.

Trust me, the young uns who know where to look are getting acid.

Acid is my all time favorite, but that doesn't mean new designer drugs suck. Psilacetin (4-AcO-DMT) is better than shrooms in my experience and in the experiences of lots of others. Psilacetin is better than acid in some cases since it doesn't last as long.
 

HempKat

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They're sold as "bath salts" because they're recreational drugs. It's just a loophole in the current laws. No recreational drugs stay legal for long except alcohol. People that openly sell drugs to get high end up in prison.

The ones sold as bath salts aren't wholesome, but they aren't the nightmare drugs portrayed in the media. Most people still think bath salts made that guy in Florida eat someone's face, when the toxicology reports showed otherwise.

They aren't exactly wholesome, but drugs like mephedrone and MDPV are no worse than drugs like MDMA and cocaine. The general public believes the terrible things they read in the news because they don't know any better. They believe this generation's "reefer madness" because they don't have any personal experience.

Okay so maybe the media has over hyped some of it but what about the fact that other stories of a variety of disturbing reactions for a wide variety of un connected local media sources have reported incidents? I mean yeah maybe the Florida story was hype but is all of it hype? There's an old saying that goes something like, "If one person tells you that you have a tail like an animal then you can dismiss it as nonsense but if 10 people tell you, you better turn around and take a look.

The point in how things are being sold is that the sellers know if they sold it properly labeled it would never be allowed to get to market. By doing what they do in mislabeling they are being just as deceptive, misleading and dishonest as you claim the media to be. Most people use the logic that if it's being sold to the general public then it's safe, they rarely consider that the manufacturer is being dishonest until the media says they are.
 

m314

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Okay so maybe the media has over hyped some of it but what about the fact that other stories of a variety of disturbing reactions for a wide variety of un connected local media sources have reported incidents? I mean yeah maybe the Florida story was hype but is all of it hype? There's an old saying that goes something like, "If one person tells you that you have a tail like an animal then you can dismiss it as nonsense but if 10 people tell you, you better turn around and take a look.

The point in how things are being sold is that the sellers know if they sold it properly labeled it would never be allowed to get to market. By doing what they do in mislabeling they are being just as deceptive, misleading and dishonest as you claim the media to be. Most people use the logic that if it's being sold to the general public then it's safe, they rarely consider that the manufacturer is being dishonest until the media says they are.

The labels are there strictly to get around the prohibition laws. Everyone who buys mephedrone or MDPV online knows they're buying a drug. Literally no one buys these drugs online and thinks they're bath salts or plant food or whatever. They're clearly labelled with the names of the drugs.

They aren't harmless, specifically the cathinones and other designer stimulants. Cocaine isn't harmless either. I'm just saying the hype is overblown when it comes to the dangers.

I do believe the designer tryptamines are harmless when used responsibly. I've only seen those sold as "research chemicals", not bath salts.
 

Harry Gypsna

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Acid is my all time favorite, but that doesn't mean new designer drugs suck. Psilacetin (4-AcO-DMT) is better than shrooms in my experience and in the experiences of lots of others. Psilacetin is better than acid in some cases since it doesn't last as long.

I haven't got anything against them, I'm just not really interested in them for me.

I'm never going to accept that anything is better than acid though.:biggrin: DMT, it's a different thing altogether. The 4ACO, that the one that is 10 times the strength of the traditional DMT isn't it? Completely synthetic as opposed to being an extraction from plants?

Governments are on to a loser trying to stop all this now. They've got as much chance of doing that as I have of going down on Jessica Alba. The darknet has revolutionised drug dealing in much the same way as the mobile phone did in the 90s. Unless they want o make other mail order business unworkable, there is very little they can do, Sure they'll get some stuff and can track all that persons other packages, but the vast majority gets through, because they can't fuck with every single ebay and amazon parcel to catch someone buying an eighth of rocky or a bottle of liquid cid.
 

m314

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I haven't got anything against them, I'm just not really interested in them for me.

I'm never going to accept that anything is better than acid though.:biggrin: DMT, it's a different thing altogether. The 4ACO, that the one that is 10 times the strength of the traditional DMT isn't it? Completely synthetic as opposed to being an extraction from plants?

Governments are on to a loser trying to stop all this now. They've got as much chance of doing that as I have of going down on Jessica Alba. The darknet has revolutionised drug dealing in much the same way as the mobile phone did in the 90s. Unless they want o make other mail order business unworkable, there is very little they can do, Sure they'll get some stuff and can track all that persons other packages, but the vast majority gets through, because they can't fuck with every single ebay and amazon parcel to catch someone buying an eighth of rocky or a bottle of liquid cid.

4-AcO-DMT is basically psilocybin with the phosphoryl group replaced with an acetyl group. It (and psilocybin) converts to psilocin in the body, so the basic effect is like shrooms without the side effects like an upset stomach. It's still legal in the US if it's sold as a "research chemical" instead of a drug.

At some point it will be added to the schedule 1 list if it's popular enough. By the time this one is banned, 20 new tryptamines will have been created. Prohibition can't work when it's so easy for chemists to invent new drugs. People still buy and sell the banned drugs all the time like you said.

Acid is still my all time favorite. :) Sometimes it's just nice to have something that doesn't last as long.
 
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