I always think its quite funny how people think its horrible that cannabis is capitalised on. the only reason it became popular at any point is because someone saw there was a profit to be made.
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What will happen to small operations after legalization?
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I can go the store and buy cheap GMO tomatoes if I want to...
I can go the store and buy expensive 'organic' tomatoes if I want to...
I can go home and grow my own tomatoes any way I like...
I can even go into business and sell tomatoes if I want to follow the rules and guidelines of my state...
And that's all I really want for cannabis. Options. And no more fear.
If that meant that running a canna business required permits, and state inspections to ensure that I was providing a safe product to the public then I would be more than pleased to do that. No business is immune.
I am from the land of Budweiser. As big a business as it gets. But the town is also full of small craft beer houses that most of the locals prefer. People that know good beer anyway. The craft beer sold to the public isn't brewed in somebodies basement though. They run businesses that are subject to the laws of the land just like everybody else. People can go to Walmart and buy Budweiser if they want, they can brew their own in the basement, or they can go to a craft brew house and buy what they prefer. That system works for me.
I can go the store and buy expensive 'organic' tomatoes if I want to...
I can go home and grow my own tomatoes any way I like...
I can even go into business and sell tomatoes if I want to follow the rules and guidelines of my state...
And that's all I really want for cannabis. Options. And no more fear.
If that meant that running a canna business required permits, and state inspections to ensure that I was providing a safe product to the public then I would be more than pleased to do that. No business is immune.
I am from the land of Budweiser. As big a business as it gets. But the town is also full of small craft beer houses that most of the locals prefer. People that know good beer anyway. The craft beer sold to the public isn't brewed in somebodies basement though. They run businesses that are subject to the laws of the land just like everybody else. People can go to Walmart and buy Budweiser if they want, they can brew their own in the basement, or they can go to a craft brew house and buy what they prefer. That system works for me.
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That's not what's going to happen if there is a national policy in my lifetime, though. If there's money in it and that's the incentive, why would the gov't let anyone else in on it? Medicalization might be politically possible - with growing restricted to those that have already been providing for the gov't such as Ole Miss. Name all the US Senators and R Rep's in favor of legalization.
Indeed. Changes in Colorado lead the way. For the first time, the world gets to see what legal cannabis looks like in a first world nation. And it'll look just fine. We intend to show that legalization is good policy, far superior to prohibition. All we ever needed was this chance, this opportunity to reveal the truth. Now we have it.
Disagree. Cannabis is popular because it gives you a nice high. Lots of people grow for themselves with no thought of selling or making a profit.
people would not have been exposed to it because it has a nice high if people weren't getting paid to grow or smuggle it into the country
every magic peace of mind moment or life changing epiphany you had on illegal drugs that you didnt manufacture yourself was brought to you by criminal and for the purposes of profit (unless you claim that manufactures bless you) even if it was a gift because someone paid for it to get there
the level of altruism is a very relative and relevant to a person's life and to setting a bar to judge against is a very antiquated and ineffective way to look at it
WHAT KIND OF CAR DO YOU HAVE? WHERE DO YOU GET MOST OF YOUR FOOD, CLOTHING, GASOLINE, WHY DO YOU WANT CANNABIS TO BE DIFFERENT AND SPECIAL? IS IT TO PROTECT YOUR LIFESTYLE OR BECAUSE ILLEGALITY IS BEST FOR CANNABIS? YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL...
-SamS
My first Cannabis I bought for 50 cents for two joints. My second was grown by me. I have gifted so much Cannabis that I can not even say how much. No one paid for it other then my work.
-SamS
-SamS
it was a joke homey
So your saying every head who smoked pot bought pot once for pennies and never again because hey grew it or cause they had cool dudes like you gifting it to them.
a statement like that also implies that legalization would still have made the same strides in america even if it wasn't one of the top gross agricultural product in most every state
It also implies that the gross majority of marijuana that is produced or smuggled into the country by various cartels and criminal organizations is so nominal that it has had little measurable effect in the exposure of marijuana to the general public
While I appreciate your personal experience It does not reflect the reality that a good majority of people who experience pot did so because someone brought it to the market because its monetary value
if you want we can dig up estimated marijuana trade revenues in America over the years and we can see if the tonnage seems reasonable to be gifted in like amounts by benevolent old school hippies who sacrificed everything purely out of altruism, to see a changed world.
did free pot open minds and help make pot legal in America? or did criminal activity for a profit make it available for enough of us to learn its properties and embrace it from that point on in ways relative to how it inspired us?
sounds like you don't realize how far (inspiration at least) the first .50 you spent on weed got you
NO I DO, THAT SAID I HAVE GIVEN AWAY TONS OF CANNABIS, NOT KILOS, TONS, AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TONS OF SEEDS I HAVE GIVEN AWAY, MAYBE EVEN MORE THEN THE CANNABIS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT REASONS FOR DOING WHAT YOU CONSIDER MOTIVATION FROM ILLEGAL CANNABIS, IT MAY HAVE BEEN FREE CANNABIS OR NOT, WHO CARES AS LONG AS IT EFFECTS CHANGE?
NO ONE CAN DENY THE RECENT CHANGES IN CANNABIS LAWS, AND SOME OF THIS CHANGE IS BROUGHT ON BY PEOPLE THAT DO NOT EVEN CONSUME CANNABIS. THEY CAN STILL SEE THAT SOMETHING IS NOT CORRECT WHEN BETTY FORD IS ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL AND PRESCRIPTION PILLS SHE IS SENT TO A CLINIC TO KICK. WHEN A POOR KID GETS BUSTED GROWING A POT PLANT HE CAN GO TO JAIL, DEPENDING ON THE STATE HE GREW IN. THINGS NEED TO CHANGE, THE SOONER THE BETTER.
-SamS
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I hope this doesn't smack of disrespect its not meant in that manner
Im glad your happy with the person you have been and how you have conducted yourself over the years and there is no argument on the need for change
I mean maybe Sam I am wrong and you made no money on cannabis and made money doing non cannabis things and used your personal funds to gift weed but tbh im willing to venture that you were so generous because pot enabled you do so (coupled with your talents your efforts etc not trying to nominal your personal value add)
there is a whole aspect of marijuana black market economics in America that isn't being discussed which has to do with who was making the money and were that money was going before legalization and where ti will go now
remember the great depression was spurred by the loss of farm work due to industrialization and the largest lower/middle class black market commodity is now facing a similar dynamic
Sam, I personally am of the notion that while yes we deserve free and safe access to marijuana, that big business and pharma being rewarded while others who sacrificed to get the product to the market are marginalized.
I personally believe that the model should not be as constured and layered where many people profit and tax it but it should be intimate and arms length to the producer for accountability and to keep revenues in the hands of the small local producers
this keeps revenues at a critical layer of the population (lower middle classes) stimulated which offsets the decline of opportunity in other sectors due to technological advance.
this is a very very cursory glance at all the variables that I feel need to be examined but the bottom line is this
the whole someone wins and someone losses mantra is defective and if we want to advance as a race we need to evolve to were we employ synergistic strategies were resources are distributed where they are need and offer the most benefit not manipulated so the few who have access to control do so to selfish and dehumanizing means
we were more unified under the prohibition than we are under the aspect of legalization because of how everyone perceives the potential opportunities or lack there of
I think if we shaped the landscape of legality we can shape the landscape of humanity
I believe the real magic of this plant is that it nurtures the later and I think that is something this world sorely needs as well
I am hopeful that the diversity of the state laws unfolding in america will uncover a method that offers the best of all worlds and will be a model for human synergy in the future
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM, BUT I DO NOT AGREE, AMERICA WILL MOST LIKELY CONTINUE ITS QUEST FOR POWER, MONEY, OIL, AND WORLD DOMINATION, WITH MORE AND MORE ROBOT DRONES. THEY (THE POWERS THAT BE) REALLY LIKE IT, OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, BUT I BET IT WILL COME TO BE.
-SAMS
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The quest for power is not an American disease but a human phenotype expression, one which we can change
if America was a unstoppable beast legality would not have happened
America is a reflection of Americans, some greedy and controlling others disjointed and apathetic
the new generation with the capacity to discover the reality of the human condition and capacity to change such as seen with the recent gains in legality in America means we have a chance to once again shape and dictate our own future
humanity in exists in all of us even the rich and powerful, accessing it is the trick.
Humanity as a whole, as predicted by others is undergoing mass enlightenment (through interconnection via internet primarily) is occuring is ultimately the catalyst that will change the tides
I think believing that the evil powers to be are in complete control is the control they need to be in complete control
however they are not
There was a TED talk about human greed and while they established its influence they also established that people who exhibit it can also exhibit empathy thus the phenomenon of philanthropy
