mmpr doctors?

[med-man]

so health canada claims anyone can get a lic like in cali now

so who knows a doc that actually will, aside form the schemers charging 500-1500?

please share a doc in your hood down for the cause please

there is a ton of folks in need of these connections, and it would be nice to get canada to a million plus card holder right? the more the merrier

med-man

 

[sonofsour]

Hey Med-Man, I was thinking the other day we need to start approaching old mmar docs that would sign off, and tell them that they old way is over, and that they need to start signing off. I think a doctor should charge no more then 40$ for the paper work, this would be a more civilized and stander fee.

I think the reason docs and middle men had been charging so much is because they knew ppl are making money off their ATP, under the new system there is no money to be made, just buy your weed and smoke it.

 

[med-man]

hey sonofsour

i heard that they cant charge actually, or face serious penalties. dont quote me as fact please...

med-man

 

[sonofsour]

hey sonofsour

i heard that they cant charge actually, or face serious penalties. dont quote me as fact please...

med-man

Wow so then we should be pressuring them like they do us? My good friends wife just paid 400 for a script. Should I go put pressure on that doc to sign off on all my other buddies by telling him what he does/did is wrong? Everytime I hear of someone paying I get so ticked off.

 

[med-man]

hey sonofsour

its not april 1 yet

med-man

 

[Marco Renda]

hey sonofsour

i heard that they cant charge actually, or face serious penalties. dont quote me as fact please...

med-man

Sorry but you are mistaken. In Ontario a Dr can charge their patients a fee for filling out forms or for writing a letter for an employer as this ISNT covered by OHIP. Some Dr including my family Dr charges a $300 Annual Family Fee to cover any forms or letters that need to be done. If you choose not to go with the annual fee then be prepared to pay a minimum of $150 per

Take Care and Peace
Marco

 

[sonofsour]

Hey marco I was thinking that docs will want a fee but I find 150 to a too much seeing as they charge 40$ for a sick note and I feel like a sick note has more info in it then a script, also If I go get a script for my anti acid pills they just write the script, they do not charge me anything, so why should we pay for this script now that HC says it is to be treated as a script?

 

[outdoordreams]

You don't need a doctor to sign anymore. Health care practitioner.
Not sure exactly who can and cant, but its more than just Doctors.
Look it up.

 

[med-man]

wicked odd

thanks for sharing

med-man

 

[blastfrompast]

About the only thing Dr's can't charge you overboard on is copies of your medical records.

Pipeda and all that Jazz.

 

[Rabbi]

so health canada claims anyone can get a lic like in cali now

so who knows a doc that actually will, aside form the schemers charging 500-1500?

please share a doc in your hood down for the cause please

there is a ton of folks in need of these connections, and it would be nice to get canada to a million plus card holder right? the more the merrier

med-man

Great idea, good thread.

 

[pho]

You don't need a doctor to sign anymore. Health care practitioner.
Not sure exactly who can and cant, but its more than just Doctors.
Look it up.

Last time I checked it was nurse practitioners and doctors.

In speaking with many doctors and nurse practitioners, no one wants to sign this. The government says they took a step away from the process and made it more accessible to patients, but it just puts 100% of the onus on the doctors and nurses.

The Canadian Medical Association lamented about Health Canada not giving them any guidance or time to discuss this. The colleges of physicians and surgeons also don't support this as there's no dosing guidelines or credible studies that they use as case studies to hash everything out (please, no one dispute this with me, not my words, I'm just the messenger).

Alberta's college outright does not support this. It's easier to give someone a narcotic because while that's also overlooked, that's a process that's already been hashed out and regimented. But medical marijuana? There's too much ambiguity. It's not that it's not safe, it's just that there's no agreed upon and established guidelines - that's the problem. And I completely support doctors in their decision and stance of apprehension. No one wants to be the first to start prescribing this and the first to subsequently become reprimanded. If I were a doctor, I'd also say "fuck it" and prescribe any of the millions of drugs that are out there first. I believe medical marijuana is a great medicine, but it's not the only one. And for 9/10 people, I would easily prescribe a pharmaceutical drug that's likely covered by their healthcare provider, one that's been researched and that another doctor could overlook and understand, etc.


I hope people don't point to doctors and nurse practitioners with violent, scathing looks. They're only doing their job which keeps on getting marginalized and obscured. Health Canada are the ones to blame. They just wanted to wash their hands of their sins and unloaded this mess onto another authority. I have lots of friends who are doctors or are in their residency and they've answered me candidly. I can completely understand and appreciate their stance, being a huge medical marijuana supporter. None of them think it's a huge danger at all, and that it's a very appropriate medicine for the old Category A and B illnesses. It's just that anyone with a headache or a muscle ache will want a prescription and it's on the medical professional to sign off on that. Joe Blow will be bragging to his friends the moment he gets a script, so just think of how apprehensive you'd feel in their shoes. I empathize for them because they're in a shitty position.

 

[Pangea]

I read on another site of a medical user from Ont. His doctor had signed no problem for him the last 8 years. This year he tried to get a Medical Document under the MMPR signed by the same doctor. He refused citing the College is pushing members to not sign under the MMPR.

Like Pho said, Health Care Practitioner is a Medical Doctor or a registered Nurse Practitioner.

I hope we get some competition in the doctor sig market, a $100 fee or lower is acceptable.

 

[leaffan]

Great post pho, thanks for sharing your outlook.
Pangea, I don't believe that is the case of Ontario. I have no knowledge that the Ont College is suggesting their doctors to not sign. They have had an open discussion board on the topic, and are now drafting a policy. Recently I had a doctor check with the College, they responded if you are educated about what you are doing, then proceed with signing if that's what you want to do. They do state that Ont doctors are not obliged to sign. They do not have crazy administrative burdens in place like Alberta and to a lesser degree BC.
I don't think you will see $100 for awhile.

 

[Pangea]

I do hope your correct leaffan.

I payed $100 for my signature from Dr. K.

A doctors signature does not have the power to deny or allow our human right to use and access cannabis as a medicine, one day this will be cemented.

 

[leaffan]

That info is current as of 2 weeks ago.

 

[med-man]

class action law suit

class action law suit

if i was a soon to be lp client, and didnt find a doctor with 1 visit

i would be sueing the gov't and health canada for pain and suffering

just the emotional rejection is enuff to push this issue right into full legalization

med-man

 

[leaffan]

This could very well be a huge issue med-man.

 

[med-man]

thanks leaffan

its an issue that can be capitalised on.

we have the momentum right now more then ever, world wide.

this is a great angle to take advantage of

med-man

 

[growshopfrank]

Great post pho, thanks for sharing your outlook.
Pangea, I don't believe that is the case of Ontario. I have no knowledge that the Ont College is suggesting their doctors to not sign. They have had an open discussion board on the topic, and are now drafting a policy. Recently I had a doctor check with the College, they responded if you are educated about what you are doing, then proceed with signing if that's what you want to do. They do state that Ont doctors are not obliged to sign. They do not have crazy administrative burdens in place like Alberta and to a lesser degree BC.
I don't think you will see $100 for awhile.

this is a little dated but if read it give a little insight into what doc's in ont are facing if they want to put pot out on their shingle
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/0...elling-cannabis-puts-doctors-on-shaky-ground/