Those plugs aren't too expensive, I don't see why I shouldn't do both on my next cut and see which works better with warmer room temps this time around.
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Why am I getting shit strike rates with my clones?
- Thread starter oceangrownkush
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sending positive root vibes your way.
my recommendation, whisper sweet-nothings to the cuts for 2-4 hours/day.
my recommendation, whisper sweet-nothings to the cuts for 2-4 hours/day.
Whatthe215, thanks for the input. Went ahead and stayed in the tent 24hrs a day whispering love poems to my new aerocloner, whaddaya kno roots in just 3 weeks!!! Lol
I'm learning yalls... Thank you all for the advice through my frustration.
I'm learning yalls... Thank you all for the advice through my frustration.
Basic heat mat set on timer cycling every 15 minutes.
3) $5.98 roasted chicken containers.
6) peat pellets each.
The chicken roasters actually hold moisture far better than the Jiffy tray domes. And they come with delicious chicken for less money... Go figure.
Use a combination of either the heat mats, or the ballast from a florescent light to warm the bottom of a nursery flat. Put the roasters in the nursery flat and adjust the timer as needed to get 78-82 deg f.
I've seen little difference with clonex, take root, liquid karma, super thrive etc.
What works is muted or dim light 24 hrs with warm temps. Begin gradually increasing fresh air after the first few days. The warmer, the sooner. If you have an aquarium, a little water from it will both encourage early rooting, and provide a very gentle fert for the new roots;-) in fact if the light is left on and a cutting placed in a hang on back filter, roots typically form in 5-8 days.
3) $5.98 roasted chicken containers.
6) peat pellets each.
The chicken roasters actually hold moisture far better than the Jiffy tray domes. And they come with delicious chicken for less money... Go figure.
Use a combination of either the heat mats, or the ballast from a florescent light to warm the bottom of a nursery flat. Put the roasters in the nursery flat and adjust the timer as needed to get 78-82 deg f.
I've seen little difference with clonex, take root, liquid karma, super thrive etc.
What works is muted or dim light 24 hrs with warm temps. Begin gradually increasing fresh air after the first few days. The warmer, the sooner. If you have an aquarium, a little water from it will both encourage early rooting, and provide a very gentle fert for the new roots;-) in fact if the light is left on and a cutting placed in a hang on back filter, roots typically form in 5-8 days.
I've been having really bad luck with rock wool lately. i do everything the same as i normally did, but getting a whole bunch of damping off and rotting clones. sometimes they will even pop a bunch of nice roots, but the new growth tips will have brown necrosis so i have to toss them.
I've went back and forth from rock wool to cloners and back to rock wool, but now i am officially done with anything else other than ez, power or turbo cloners. i have a whole bunch of them now and the cleaning isn't too bad compared to all the extra time it takes for cubes.
freakin love cloners now can't believe i strayed away from them in the first place because of the cleaning hassle. i have a few 128s, and 148 and might pick up a 180 soon too.
I've went back and forth from rock wool to cloners and back to rock wool, but now i am officially done with anything else other than ez, power or turbo cloners. i have a whole bunch of them now and the cleaning isn't too bad compared to all the extra time it takes for cubes.
freakin love cloners now can't believe i strayed away from them in the first place because of the cleaning hassle. i have a few 128s, and 148 and might pick up a 180 soon too.
Try Oasis cubes. Much better and easier than rock wool from my experience.
EZ Cloners are great too, but with the cubes it's easier to move around/work with when it's in a flat/tray.
That's too damn cold. Clones root quickest at 78-82f. Under 75 would take weeks if ever. Over 82 and they mold or get mushy fast. 50% sucks. That's barely surviving. 90%+ is more the target.
Yeah I wish I had a dialed room, I'm more of a residential grower with a dayjob so I can't really dial my shit too precisely.. Noticed all my clones took when it cooled off a bit outside, I think I'm gonna have to take my clones seasonally lol...
Nah, but one day I'll have a straight compound and these cloning woes will be a faint memory. For now I'm glad I've been lucky enough to hold onto the genetics I care for.
Nah, but one day I'll have a straight compound and these cloning woes will be a faint memory. For now I'm glad I've been lucky enough to hold onto the genetics I care for.
snypes guides on cloning are fuckin legit. you cant go wrong
GanjaRebel has it right. Once I tried the oasis i knew they were superior to rockwool
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The key is to keep temps at 80ish. 80-82, and you are gold.
Air temp, what about water temp? I have been having issues recently with my klone king, i had it all down but have not needed clones for a minute and now that I do I had a shit strike run of gsc/scap/gg4 and mostly time. Let 4 weeks pass, environment was 70f air, 68-71f water, pump on a 5m off 1m on timer, typical for the function. Was getting nothing but nubs on just a few, they all failed to develop roots. Trying again after thoroughly cleaning two different klone kings (i have the parts for three 25 site buckets and pumps/manifold etc.). Cleaned them with 1.5 cup bleach, filled with hot water, ran for a few hours, emptied, cleaned thoroughly with hot water and soap with high pressure water, ran it again for a few hours. Cleaned it again, all parts, ran it again, emptied it, and now, finally, filled, adjusted ph to 5.5 to sustain a steady climb, and replace the water every 2 days to prevent cyanobacteria build up with warming water, otherwise slime can and may develop.
So this failed. Thinking it may be air temp I changed some stuff around and got the tent temp up to 75, this increases the water temp as well, mainly the water temp is increasing in combination with the pump and environment, with the timer it decreases the pump adding heat to the water by quite a bit, interestingly this may be the problem, it is winter. It might be too low of a temp for the cycle to really kickoff and get the roots developing. The water is tap that comes out at 9.1 ph (!) adjusted down like I said, my water has chloramine in it, not chlorine, so I do not break it down because the breakdown creates a salt. I grow organic fortified soil w/organic earth juice nutes once out of the cloner.
So anyway, setup a second klone king, cleaned in the same way in another tent with a 600w turned down to 250w to see if an 80-82f environment brings roots in winter faster compared to my other tent which is a 2x2 t8 mini fluro w 70f ambient, and adjusted mid to low 70f with lower airflow. Another option is to eliminate the 5 off 1 on timer and utilize heat from a constant running pump. May be more air temp than water though.
Additionally I have thought to replace my collars with either cheap new ones or those ones you can pressure cook to clean and are reusable. I clean the collars by soaking them in hot soapy water overnight then thoroughly washing them off, running them in the dishwasher on heavy/heated dry in a mesh bag designed to wash hand wraps in the washing machine. Then I dry that bag in the dryer until they are thoroughly dry before considering them "cleaned".
