What have I done?

[rob feature]

I'm fairly new at this & took to trimming one of my flowering plants last night. This is a blueberry indica - 4th day of flowering. I fed 2.5 days ago, so thought it might be a good time to take a little extra off the bottom last night. When I made the cuts, however, they felt woody & resistant...unlike any of the others I've cut. That concerned me a bit, but I just let 'em be for a while then got back in to check before the lights went off and found this

About 5 days ago she looked like this

Actually about 7 hours ago she looked like that (only much bigger), but appears to be kinda pissed about those cuts.

I guess my question to you folks is - what now? Do I do anything or just let it try to regain strength on its own?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Jbomber79]

Looks like a heat/water issue to me.

 

[rob feature]

Looks like a heat/water issue to me.

Thanks bomber

Hmmm. It's been under the same conditions as water/heat go for over a month now. Couldn't maybe have something to do with those cuts?

FWIW, I'm documenting all this in its own thread if that might help diagnosis.

 

[Crooked8]

Looks thirsty or over watered. Is the pot heavy or light?

 

[rob feature]

Looks thirsty or over watered. Is the pot heavy or light?

Light actually. I guess my weighing arms don't work as well just after I've just gotten up. I just picked it up again and it's definitely light. I just gave 'er a good hose-down.

Hopefully that's the issue. I just didn't think that could happen so quickly & wanted to blame it on the cuts. 2.5 days ago, she drank most of a gallon all by herself. I'll need to keep in mind that she's the thirsty one. She's consuming water at maybe twice the rate of my other plants...seems to be growing that way too.

Thanks for the replies y'all. Hopefully that did it. I'll update once the lights come back on. Fingers crossed!

 

[lost in a sea]

yeah there are always individuals that can surprise you like that,, i have a couple girls at the moment that can drink over a gallon just in 24 hours..

 

[Crooked8]

I bet she perked up

 

[blastfrompast]

me too...

Just be glad it wasn't overwatering...I lost one of my tree's this cycle this way...overwater cause I ended up in surgury(apendix)...and then had to do it again when I went back into ER...smaller Tree jsut wilted and I had to chop her when I got back....still had some standing water in the tray unlike the other girls who were just starting to get thirsty.

 

[rob feature]

You guys nailed it!

I was keeping my expectations low just in case, but for nothing. She hasn't grown any vertically since 24 hours ago, but perked right back up. Enough water = growth...got it

My Mendocino County Diesel is finally giving good vibes as well. Looks like I'm on the way back to a healthy garden!

Mad props for the advice. You guys are golden!

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

believe it or the most common reason for wilting is lack of water.we should do a side by side grow journal for all the naysayers but i think those out there with decades of growing could tell you. wilt can be cured organically too. sure all those fancy ro systems work great but if you are on a shoestring you can cure wilt with just pennies. i simply add 1000mls of tap water in for every liter im gonna feed with, simply top feed in. it usually cures wilt in a matter of minutes. ive seen plants go limp and added modest amounts of water and seen results. the shits really effective. you gotta be diligent though if you don't repeat the treatment at least every 2-3 days the problem can return. dont over do it though too much can totally damage plants. that shit can build up in the soil too if you apply it too often. let soil dry out a bit between treatments. hope this helps. youd be surprised how quick they can develop a hydrogen dioxide deficiency.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

if you mix it in with your nutes it can totally prevent burn too.

 

[theother]

Sometimes stress factors can compound each other, also its always worth remembering Occam's razor, out of a multitude of problems it is statistically likely that it will be the most simple.

FWIW I would always take material off a plant in kind of a staggered little bit here little bit there kind of way. If I remember correctly the actually percentage is like anything more than 20% of the material removed can have a negative effect for a period of time afterwords.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

Sometimes stress factors can compound each other, also its always worth remembering Occam's razor, out of a multitude of problems it is statistically likely that it will be the most simple.

FWIW I would always take material off a plant in kind of a staggered little bit here little bit there kind of way. If I remember correctly the actually percentage is like anything more than 20% of the material removed can have a negative effect for a period of time afterwords.

in all seriousness . jokes aside. just ribbing no offense intended. ive made similar mistakes that would seem obvious to other people and im just playing around.

to the 20% rule iwould add that it is unlikely to be very dramatic in this setting but it is a good rule with all plants. ive stripped em bare with no real noticeable damage within that range. however extreme pruning i have seen seriously impact plants like instead of culling a big plant when i have extras i have attempted to prune one down to a seedling size to save space and it killed the plant. but again that was like a 90+% pruning. even chopping them in half seems to be ok usually. i doubt taking out a whole lot of under growth would cause much in the way of stress ime. watering can sneak up on you when transitioning from veg to flower. gowing from weaker to stronger lighting can be a real shock and require a lot more water.
yours will likely not even miss a beat other than aday or two of rebound if they were other wise healthy.

 

[rob feature]

Good stuff! I sort of established an arbitrary rule of <10%...more like 5% really as I haven't really run across what folks generally consider a 'safe' amount before now. Good to know I have some breathing room. I think I'm gonna cut a bit more tonight, but these will be clones. Never cloned anything before...should be an adventure!

 

[theother]

Good stuff! I sort of established an arbitrary rule of <10%...more like 5% really as I haven't really run across what folks generally consider a 'safe' amount before now. Good to know I have some breathing room. I think I'm gonna cut a bit more tonight, but these will be clones. Never cloned anything before...should be an adventure!

cloning something thats flowering can be a bit harder. I don't know how long since you originally posted this thread, but I saw you had flipped already. Give them a bit of extra time to root, and depending on how long they have been flowering expect them to kind of stall out a bit once rooted. I have never noticed a difference after just a couple days in, but after like 10-20 days depending they can start to be a different.

 

[rob feature]

Today is the 4th day of flower, so they aren't too far in yet. And slow isn't what most folks want, but I won't be able to flower again until next Fall. I just wanna keep something small going over the Summer under a small CFL or LED - no A/C here and making extra heat isn't gonna make me sweat any less. Thanks for the heads up!

cloning something thats flowering can be a bit harder. I don't know how long since you originally posted this thread, but I saw you had flipped already. Give them a bit of extra time to root, and depending on how long they have been flowering expect them to kind of stall out a bit once rooted. I have never noticed a difference after just a couple days in, but after like 10-20 days depending they can start to be a different.

 

[xxxstr8edgexxx]

Today is the 4th day of flower, so they aren't too far in yet. And slow isn't what most folks want, but I won't be able to flower again until next Fall. I just wanna keep something small going over the Summer under a small CFL or LED - no A/C here and making extra heat isn't gonna make me sweat any less. Thanks for the heads up!

definately check out snypes tutorials on cloning.

 

[theother]

Today is the 4th day of flower, so they aren't too far in yet. And slow isn't what most folks want, but I won't be able to flower again until next Fall. I just wanna keep something small going over the Summer under a small CFL or LED - no A/C here and making extra heat isn't gonna make me sweat any less. Thanks for the heads up!

I'm sure it will work out awesome man, 4 days is nothing, doubt the plants have even noticed yet.

 

[rob feature]

I figured I might as well use this thread instead of start a new one...might even come in handy later

I've had another plant start doing something that makes me uncomfortable. This is a Mendocino County Diesel that's just wrapped up the 3rd week of flower. She'd been a bit slower than the others in the room (other strains) for a while, but when I started flowering really stepped up her game. However in the last 24 hours I've started seeing something new - a bunch of the fan leaves have turned yellow and are developing brown spots...

You can sort of see a streak of yellow across the whole plant if you look closely

This is happening pretty much exclusively with the oldest growth on the plant. Is it just using them up & letting them die off or is something else going on here? Since it happened so quickly, I assumed maybe I did something she didn't like. I have stopped filtering the water during the last week. I also started using +Size. All the other plants are looking happy & healthy, but the diesel not so much. At minimum, I plan to start filtering the water again, but as for anything else, I have no idea.


Thoughts?