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150 watt Vertical Cabinet

touchofgrey

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I have once again remodeled my cabinet. In my last chapter, I ripped out my 250 watt air cooled hood and converted it to a 250 watt vertical bulb with 4 plants in 1 gallon containers tied to a pair of vertical trellis'. That run is here if you're curious. The switch worked out pretty good with a 30% increase from my horizontal scrog yields over the past few years.

But my cabinet is only 2.7 SF footprint so a 250 watt bulb in there is really overkill and I've been thinking for a while I could get almost as much yield with a 150 setup. With the bare bulb I was fighting high temps from the light that I also think hurt yield. Better g/w and less heat seems like a win so I switched out to a 150 and took the opportunity to fix some other things while I was at it.


I moved the electrical around a bit to fit better with my vertical trellis setup and put in a couple direct wire timers to get rid to the plug in type I had before. I also installed new irrigation lines for the blumats with cool auto shut off disconnects for the drip lines so I can now easily remove the plants for training or trimming without having to drain and restart the whole irrigation line.

While dealing with the heat issues on my last run I switched out my original panasonic 50 cfm fan for a 110 cfm model. But it was from their "whisperfit" line and was much noiser. It still didn't quite cut it for a 250 watt light and this was in winter with a lower ambient so I upgraded to a 130 cfm 2 speed panasonic WhisperGreen FV-13VKS3 that is quiet as a mouse and has the option to run at a selected low speed and kick on full speed when a switch is turned on.


This is the selector switch. You can preset the low speed anywhere from 50 to 110 cfm. I'm currently running it at 50 with a 63 deg ambient for a cabinet temp of 74. For the switch I used a cooling thermostat so it will run at a selected speed until a high temp is reached and the fan turns on full blast. It's not needed now but will come in real handy in the summer when my ambient temp is in the 70's.


The next generation is ready to go. My chore for the weekend is to get them up potted.
 

Chloemobile

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Love how clean the electrical looks..one of these days I'm not going to half ass my cab....


What strains are you running?
 

touchofgrey

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Im in for the ride, I have a similar grow, it will be cool to see how this goes.
Welcome Keif. I'm anxious to see how it goes too since the downsize to 150 watts is new to me. On a watts/SF basis it should be fine and the heat problem is going to be fixed with this wattage and the exhaust setup. Besides, I'm sold on the vertical bulb setup.

Love how clean the electrical looks..one of these days I'm not going to half ass my cab....


What strains are you running?
Thanks Chloe. If you look real close there are old screw holes everywhere from previous ghetto setups. Finally getting everything organized.

The strain is OGer99 by Dutchgrown. Using H&G nutes in coco. I've been mothering this strain for about 3 years and was thinking about doing a seed run with some other nice genetics I've collected. But I decided to run her one more time to sorta do a side by side comparison to the last run with a 250 watt bulb.
 

touchofgrey

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Got the transplanting done. These girls will finish out their lives in a 1 gallon grow bag filled with coco.


I used some Rootbastic I got as a freebee on this batch of clones. I'm pretty impressed with what I saw when I took 'em out. Healthiest roots I've seen in a while!


Blumats hooked up with auto shutoff disconnect. Now all I got to do is keep the rez full for 10 weeks or so and tie them back to the screen once in a while, it gets pretty boring watching grass grow...
 

non

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nice! 150s and 250s are very close to my heart :) nice clean setup too (can't say that myself).
 

touchofgrey

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Time for a little update.

Still not much going on but they are looking healthy and have been growing steadily. They reached the level on the screen where I flipped last time (which worked out well) so I switched to 12/12 6 days ago. Not sure if I'll get as much stretch with a 150 but with a limited ceiling it's better safe than sorry.


I have been defoliating more heavily this time than last so it doesn't get too crowded in there. Cut off all the lower growth and any fan leaf that was shading the secondary branches.


Looking a bit sparce at this point but I think they will fill out pretty well during stretch.
 

touchofgrey

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I've also been playing with an idea for making the bulb height adjustment easier. Right now I'm using the tried and true string and knot method. I use a slip knot but it is still a pain to retie every few days. So I came up with this adjustable mount that resembles a scissor jack for your car.

I always have to build a model in Sketchup before I make something. Looked like it would work so I got some hinges and 1-1/2" wide aluminum flat bar.

Cut the parts, drilled a bunch of holes, bolted it all together and there it is. I will use braided picture hanging wire to operate and still need to get the mount set up inside the cabinet but no big hurry.

I also thought I could hook this to a geared motor and turn it into a vertical light mover. Might help out on yield.
 

touchofgrey

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19 days into flower. They are stretching like crazy but should slow down pretty soon. Looks about right for now with 6" or so left to the ceiling.


The cabinet has filled up nicely, I've been trying to defoliate a bit at a time but they have bushed out like crazy in the last week so I'm thinking I should pull them out and give them a good 3 week (final) trim job.


Meanwhile in the bottom cabinet I've got the new mother candidates going bonsai.

I've also been playing with the vertical light mover idea. In looking for a geared motor I found a DC rotisserie motor that is intended to run on batteries for campground use. DC is needed so you can reverse the rotation by switching the polarity. So I came up with a design to slowly wind up the cable on a shaft. When it reaches the top the electrical box hits a DPDT switch that will reverse the motor to slowly unwind and lower the light.



I had ordered up the rotisserie motor a few weeks ago when I started thinking about this so all I needed was some metal to make the bracket and a switch. I ordered the switch yesterday and found a piece of heavy gage metal in a construction site dumpster so this morning I made up the bracket and tested it out.


I don't have the switch in place but it works great so far. I adjusted the length of the cable so the frame is 99% extended when it reaches the end. That way, as it unwinds and reaches the end it then starts to wind up again until it rises to the top and hits the switch to reverse polarity and then unwinds to repeat the process.
 

Dropped Cat

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So the idea for the light mover is a few days upper,
a few days middle, a few days lower position, repeat
through the grow cycle?

Or is the light moved hourly?

Hmmm...
 

touchofgrey

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I was thinking the ideal setup would be 1 full cycle down and up during each 12 hour cycle so it starts and ends at the top but gives the lower area a shot of light each day. Whadoyathink?
 

touchofgrey

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I pulled out the girls today and got the defoliation done.

left side before left side after
right side before right side after

I compared with the photos I did at 3 weeks on the last run (with a 250 watt bulb) and I definitely see less/smaller buds with the 150. But I was anticipating less yield anyway and there is still 5 weeks to go so we will see....
 

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