Quick but effective SuperSoil

[gram101]

What's a quality mix of SuperSoil that that can be used to feed a 4x4 area. I don't want over 5-7 ingredients, I want to minimize the amount of leftover soil but create quality product.

 

[gram101]

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[DinosaurCocks]

maybe read some books? id suggest "teaming with microbes" and maybe a basic gardening book as well...

 

[SirSteely]

Goto The " Organics for Beginners " thread and use the recipe LCs mix.
This is what a apartment version will look like.
Have fun.

 

[aridbud]

Do a thread search on "Soil Mixes"....

In years of yore, mixed DIY soiless mix...never a problem of any kind.

 

[SirSteely]

I live in a urban high rise organic can be done with a little ingenuity and some hard work. Ps. Have a vacuume cleaner for the crumbs. lol

 

[Granger2]

Get the smallest kiddie pool for mixing. Set it on a tarp. Good luck. -granger

 

[Jhhnn]

I recently transplanted 12"-15" seedlings into 5 gal pots w/ 4" of TGA super soil at the bottom & partway up the transplanted root ball. I also flipped into flowering. It's an experiment. Ten days into it, the girls are loving it, partying in their pots, exploding into flowering.

I'd like to finish this run only giving 'em water, and it looks like that might work. Last run, I had some issues with nitrogen deficiency in root bound plants using re-amended soil in 3 gal pots. I suppose that if I were a better soil chemist & fortune teller I wouldn't have as many problems with bottle feeding, which I've come to regard as a PITA for a variety of reasons.

I have more guessing game re-amended soil cooking out back for the next run, & I'll keep working at it, at least for awhile. OTOH, if that doesn't work out as well as I'd like, Acme Hydro in Broomfield may have a customer for life, while the veggie garden & flowerbeds may get top dressed w/ used grow media. Or I'll re-amend with TGA bagged fertilizer, compost & worm castings.

The price of TGA super soil only looks steep until I consider the price of bottled & dry nutrients & the amount of work involved in recycling soil. Then it doesn't look bad at all. It's still a helluva lot cheaper than retail or underground weed, that's for sure.

I'm withholding judgment until this run is complete, but it's very promising so far.

 

[surfguitar]

Go read the old recycled soil thread, these super soils are just over priced waste of amendments

If you want ease and the best price for something that grows amazing plants pick up the kisorganics.com nutrient pack

 

[RoadRash]

What's a quality mix of SuperSoil that that can be used to feed a 4x4 area. I don't want over 5-7 ingredients, I want to minimize the amount of leftover soil but create quality product.

There's a cheap dirt, sold at big box stores like Home Depot, that's actually labelled SuperSoil.

Is that what you're talking about ?

Those Cheapo mixes tend to have a lot of nitrogen. It makes things grow fast, so that customers say, "Oh wow, it's GROWING", and think they have a green thumb.


If you're talking about SuperSoil brand SuperSoil, then, no need to add blood meal - it's got plenty of nitrogen.

The TGA mix is pricey but if it helps obtain good Cannabis, it's worth it.

I would suggest Foxfarm Ocean Forest because it makes a good baseline. It wouldn't need 5 to 7 additional ingredients, just MAYBE some bone meal (Phosphorus - 1 cup per cubic foot of FFOX) and a Potassium supplement (wood ash, 1/2 cup per cubic foot.)


I would also suggest looking around for a local facility that takes in yard waste and does composting and possibly sells soil-mixes, ESPECIALLY if they are careful enough to send out samples of their soil to a chemical lab for analysis.

Then you will usually get something back that tells you NPK levels, both 'available' and 'total' (something like that, I forget the exact Soil Scientist terms.)

 

[Jhhnn]

Go read the old recycled soil thread, these super soils are just over priced waste of amendments

If you want ease and the best price for something that grows amazing plants pick up the kisorganics.com nutrient pack

That looks like a quality product, as well. OTOH, gram101 lives in an apartment, asked for simple. He'll end up with a closet full of all the different ingredients required.

With the TGA method, it's just a bag of regular mix & a bag of super soil which together conveniently fill four 5 gallon pots or six 3 gallon pots, virtually no leftovers. He can either re-amend for another grow, dumpsterize at the end of the grow or lean on a friend with a yard or garden to deal with used soil.

I haven't done the math, but the kisorganics method may not actually be cheaper at all, particularly if the TGA product is available locally. They also offer a product similar to the Kisorganics nutrient pack, as well.

 

[surfguitar]

That looks like a quality product, as well. OTOH, gram101 lives in an apartment, asked for simple. He'll end up with a closet full of all the different ingredients required.

With the TGA method, it's just a bag of regular mix & a bag of super soil which together conveniently fill four 5 gallon pots or six 3 gallon pots, virtually no leftovers. He can either re-amend for another grow, dumpsterize at the end of the grow or lean on a friend with a yard or garden to deal with used soil.

I haven't done the math, but the kisorganics method may not actually be cheaper at all, particularly if the TGA product is available locally. They also offer a product similar to the Kisorganics nutrient pack, as well.

He was asking about a soil mix? It he wants a bagged mix the super soil might be an ok option(I wouldn't go that way personally). The tag mix is missing some super important amendments like neem and crab meal. You can look at my journal the kisorganics pack grows amazing plants and cost me 70$ for 30 gallons and I no till so it's a one time deal besides the occasional top dress.

 

[onavelzy]

What's a quality mix of SuperSoil that that can be used to feed a 4x4 area. I don't want over 5-7 ingredients, I want to minimize the amount of leftover soil but create quality product.

why do you say you want to limit the number of ingredients? which ones would feel would be unneccesary?

you can mix up a batch of TGA's recipe but on a smaller scale. or if you know some other growers, coop a full batch and take the amount you bought in for.

if you want minimal muss and fuss, there's a lot of commercially bagged versions of organic soil that have most of the amendments and biotics that TGA's does. just don't know that they have the right stuff in the right amounts that will make it a productive, hassle free living soil and give you a good grow, at least not with the proven reliability of tga's

 

[frankenstein2]

Happy frog, ocean forest and promix. All mixed in equal parts together with just a little less ocean forest than everything else. easy and it works.

 

[dwood8165]

This is or was a nice question. Before all the experiments to mend or create a soil. I used fox farms ocean forest. It uses alot of natural products. The soil runs a little on the hot side Due to the hi n content. But it is excellent for the first 3 to 4 weeks of veg. Just plant your clones only in a solo cup of it and use water and molasses only. This will enhance microbiology and allow the plants to adjust. Might add alittle extra perlite. Just to cut back on the soil.
Other nutrients
Bat or seabird guano
Jamacan or mexican great stuff
Bone meal
kelp
Jellyfish, preferred Great White
Calmag or epsom salt (mag), dolimite lime (calcium)
6 products, complete feed..